Wilder - The moment

[SwissBlade]

Wilder has far exceeded my expectations, i remember predicting before the season started that we'd finish just outside the Play Offs. I just thought after all the incoming and outgoings that the process for gelling the squad and team, improving the woeful fitness levels from last season and improving the mood would take much longer than just 4 games.

In many ways, the start to the season wasn't that much of a surprise, the manner of it the 4 defeats was alarming though and the Southend result was perhaps a freak one, but it made me think that the initial 2 season project for Wilder to get us out of the division was optimistic.

I don't really need to talk about what came next, but I've got to say that I don't remember such a positive transformation from the absolutely awful scenes we saw last season.

Wilder has not just improved the on-field side of things, Wilson and to an extent, Clough's cup runs did this, but Wilders attitude has brought together the fans, players, Owners.

I'm not sure its a time to start making comparisons to past managers, I think we might be getting beyond this already, but i can't help think that Wilder will be the new benchmark in years to come.

 

[SwissBlade]

Wilder> He wouldn't get a mention if he had no United connections. He's a complete nonentity. Only in S2. Must be reyt Pinchy said so

Those very same United connections have certainly helped Wilder to drive through his dream

 

[metalblade]

I have to admit I thought this could have been another Bladey Bladey appointment to get the fans back onside after last seasons shambles, let's be right we have gone down this road in the past with Mickey Adams, Kevin Blackwell and not forgetting Chris Morgan for a few games. When you look at McCabe's recent managerial recruitment it does look a bit of a horror show Wilson, Speed, Weir, Clough and Adkins (most thought we had got "the man" last season) all of them utter failures and not the sort that would give anyone confidence that McCabe could get it right. Wilder had a good record managing in the lower leagues so there was still a bit of a risk the club would be too big for him like Mickey Adams found out. Wilder has turned out to be something a bit special, I'm not sure whether it was luck or good judgement on McCabe's part but who gives a toss now? I think we could go a very long way with Wilder that is if he gets the proper backing from the owners, going to be interesting next season that's for sure.

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

In fairness, Wilder has done all he could do.... realistically. Its been just the one season.

Personally as much as i liked Bassett and Warnock, I think Wilder is a different class to them both... but that will be seen in the Premiership

Corrected that for you SwissBlade

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

Yer dirty BASTARD

 

[Grecian2000]

Mr too but for all we know he could be out of a job by Xmas so anyone saying he is our best manager since Bassett is just being deliberately antagonistic

Really? What if, like me for instance, it's a genuine opinion.

He's got us promoted in his first full season (like Bassett and Porterfield before him). That sets him apart from everyone else in my view. He could have done no more than he has done.

 

[JohnDenver]

Wilder> He wouldn't get a mention if he had no United connections. He's a complete nonentity. Only in S2. Must be reyt Pinchy said so

Come on metal, to play the game right you need to tag your victim to make sure they feel the torment. Ain't that right, Pinchy?

 

[Fanny magnet]

Really? What if, like me for instance, it's a genuine opinion.

He's got us promoted in his first full season (like Bassett and Porterfield before him). That sets him apart from everyone else in my view. He could have done no more than he has done.

I'm very excited about wilder but to say his achievements are better than Warnock
when he has never managed above league one is just silly
I know a lot of you despise the bloke but facts are facts

 

[Grecian2000]

The original quote you reacted to said "OUR best manager since Bassett". What has "never managed above L1" got to do with that? We've not been above L1 whilst he's been here.
Now he gets the chance to manage at a different level.
Theoretically, he's got 6 seasons to get us up to replicate Warnock. We'll be up or he'll be gone well before that.

 

[Fanny magnet]

The original quote you reacted to said "OUR best manager since Bassett". What has "never managed above L1" got to do with that? We've not been above L1 whilst he's been here.
Now he gets the chance to manage at a different level.
Theoretically, he's got 6 seasons to get us up to replicate Warnock. We'll be up or he'll be gone well before that.

so if he gets us up in six seasons he's better and if he doesn't he isn't and at this juncture he hasn't done either so it's too early to make statements like that

 

[Harrisblade]

I'm very excited about wilder but to say his achievements are better than Warnock
when he has never managed above league one is just silly
I know a lot of you despise the bloke but facts are facts

Well he has given the Blades the look of a team that plays football with skill, determination, a tactical plan AND the ability to change if necessary.
Although I actually liked Warnock, under his reign it was more of a case of players who would run through brick walls, never give up and chase everything.
At the moment we have all that as well as some sublime football

 

[Grecian2000]

so if he gets us up in six seasons he's better and if he doesn't he isn't and at this juncture he hasn't done either so it's too early to make statements like that

No, I'm not making the comparison, you are.
I'm saying his 100% promotion record makes him our best manager since Bassett (he had a 100% record after TWO seasons).

In reality it's not even an argument. THE argument was your assertion that to think Wilder is our best manager post Bassett was being deliberately antagonistic when, in my opinion, it is no such thing.

 

[Fanny magnet]

Well he has given the Blades the look of a team that plays football with skill, determination, a tactical plan AND the ability to change if necessary.
Although I actually liked Warnock, under his reign it was more of a case of players who would run through brick walls, never give up and chase everything.
At the moment we have all that as well as some sublime football

I'm not criticising wilder in anyway ,I prefer him to Warnock myself he comes across as better person and his style of football is easier on the eye and he is very much of tge modern game
I hope he is infinitely more successful than him too but to say he's higher on a list of United managers than one who had as much success as Warnock Did is daft and im amazed I'm having to stick up for him

 

[Fanny magnet]

No, I'm not making the comparison, you are.
I'm saying his 100% promotion record makes him our best manager since Bassett (he had a 100% record after TWO seasons).

In reality it's not even an argument. THE argument was your assertion that to think Wilder is our best manager post Bassett was being deliberately antagonistic when, in my opinion, it is no such thing.

It was ,the guy who posted it hates Warnock and your argument is nonsensical

 

[derryblade]

I think CW nailed it in his latest interview "We are quite popular with the supporters at the minute, that's what happens when you win games". Hopefully CW will continue to win games next season, football fans can be a fickle lot.

 

[Piffle and Tosh]

So by best manager you just mean the one you like the most .what if wilder leaves us to manage the pigs does he go below Warnock in your league table ?

fuck off that would never happen .

 

[Alfreton14Blade]

I think CW nailed it in his latest interview "We are quite popular with the supporters at the minute, that's what happens when you win games". Hopefully CW will continue to win games next season, football fans can be a fickle lot.

And Wilder's going into the unknown (again) next season, managing at ever higher levels.

Will he stumble a bit along the way, will he make mistakes adjusting?

 

[derryblade]

We can only wait and see how he copes, fans will all have different expectations for next season, that has clearly been expressed already some are off the scale. Personally get to the 50+ points as quickly as possible for me secure our position in the Championship and see where we are.

 

[BushBlade]

We can only wait and see how he copes, fans will all have different expectations for next season, that has clearly been expressed already some are off the scale. Personally get to the 50+ points as quickly as possible for me secure our position in the Championship and see where we are.

Fans with expectations higher than staying in the championship in our first season back after six years are the ones who should fuck off, not CW.

 

[derryblade]

Fans with expectations higher than staying in the championship in our first season back after six years are the ones who should fuck off, not CW.

As I say some of the fans expectations are off the wall and patience isn't one of their virtues,

 

[Pinchy]

Come on metal, to play the game right you need to tag your victim to make sure they feel the torment. Ain't that right, Pinchy?

It is indeed JD. It is also fair to acknowledge a pretty quick and comprehensive retraction statement by the offender.

Sean Spicer could learn a lot from me. So, of course, could the rest of the world. A prophet is never recognised in his own land.

 

[Pinchy]

Really? What if, like me for instance, it's a genuine opinion.

He's got us promoted in his first full season (like Bassett and Porterfield before him). That sets him apart from everyone else in my view. He could have done no more than he has done.

The quality of football is immeasurably better than under either Bassett or Warnock. That may be irrelevant to some but it's absolutely fundamental to one or two of us.

 

[JohnDenver]

He could have done no more than he has done.

I was pondering this earlier. It has to be as close to the perfect managerial season as I've ever seen.

The only time I've rocked up and thought the team was very wrong was the Fleetwood game. Dropping Lavery and neglecting Wright was an odd moment in an otherwise continuous sequence of vindicated decisions.

 

[Grecian2000]

I was pondering this earlier. It has to be as close to the perfect managerial season as I've ever seen.

The only time I've rocked up and thought the team was very wrong was the Fleetwood game. Dropping Lavery and neglecting Wright was an odd moment in an otherwise continuous sequence of vindicated decisions.

I didn't much care for him taking Lavery off for McNulty at home to Gillingham, but it's bloody unusual to have a season where there are so few things to complain about you can name them in a couple of sentences.
It's the antithesis of old Splay Foot. His career highlights are fully encompassed in setting up a goal for Webber at Newcastle.

 

[Maidenhead]

The quality of football is immeasurably better than under either Bassett or Warnock. That may be irrelevant to some but it's absolutely fundamental to one or two of us.

We still only get 3 points for a win though.

 

[Pinchy]

We still only get 3 points for a win though.

But the better the football the more likely the points.

Further, you can get drunk on lager or Lambrini. How much more satisfying to do so on Moonshine or Mouton Cadet?

 

[itsinyerblood]

I was pondering this earlier. It has to be as close to the perfect managerial season as I've ever seen.

The only time I've rocked up and thought the team was very wrong was the Fleetwood game. Dropping Lavery and neglecting Wright was an odd moment in an otherwise continuous sequence of vindicated decisions.

Psssssst, JD, he's human UTMB

 

[JohnDenver]

Psssssst, JD, he's human UTMB

Officially deified now, soz!

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

The quality of football is immeasurably better than under either Bassett or Warnock. That may be irrelevant to some but it's absolutely fundamental to one or two of us.

There's another Pinchy?

 

[NTFC 2017]

Oh Chrissy Wilder, you are the love of my life
Oh Chrissy Wilder, I'll let you shag my wife
Oh Chrissy Wilder, I want it up the ass tooooo....

Too much?

Got to say, i've absolutely loved every moment with Wilder at the helm, he's proved he is more than up to the job and seeing his interviews this season he's just grown on me more and more. As i've said, he's the sort of guy you'd want to work for. Bloody love the bloke.

Can't remember when this was posted originally, but it must've been when he was touted for the job. End of a shit season and all sorts of names were cropping up. Like others, i was initially cautious of the 'Bladey blade' factor.

But someone posted this video. I think thats pretty much when i was sold. There is honesty and passion in him and as we've seen the last few months and days, he's ambitious.

I loved his comments post match about how the line up v Northampton "didn't really work" as much as i love the 'barrel of money' rendition and leading the crowd with 'Shoreham boys'

Its not even about our club but you just have to love the way he talks like he's talking to a mate in the pub.

Got to say, i've absolutely loved every moment with Wilder at the helm, he's proved he is more than up to the job and seeing his interviews this season he's just grown on me more and more. As i've said, he's the sort of guy you'd want to work for. Bloody love the bloke.

Can't remember when this was posted originally, but it must've been when he was touted for the job. End of a shit season and all sorts of names were cropping up. Like others, i was initially cautious of the 'Bladey blade' factor.

But someone posted this video. I think thats pretty much when i was sold. There is honesty and passion in him and as we've seen the last few months and days, he's ambitious.

I loved his comments post match about how the line up v Northampton "didn't really work" as much as i love the 'barrel of money' rendition and leading the crowd with 'Shoreham boys'

Its not even about our club but you just have to love the way he talks like he's talking to a mate in the pub.





This fella is taking us a long way. As i said on Sat/ Sun, his ambition will only be restricted by finances.

Wilder what a man for us and you, legend forever. Plus sorry for anything posted in my name on here it wasn't me I didn't have my phone. I was on the pitch with your fans celebrating and shaking hands, so good luck next year.