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pommpey said:
And it happens on the Desso and elsewhere which isn't Desso. So the gains are not attached to the Desso. If that were the case, we'd lose every away game.

Please try not to attribute credit to an entity where there's no tangible proof of its effect. The midfield plays good this season because we are well rid of the luggage we were supposed to be satisfied with as replacements for the vanishing margin of quality we used to have. We have acquired players whom no one had any certainty about and have a manger who knows how to get the best out of. And they are turning it on, Desso or not. See our league position? That is because we have won eight games away, and drawn three, all on non Desso pitches. Your argument is invalid.

We have had results at Gillingham, Wimbledon, Chesterfield and Shrewsbury but to name but four, all of their playing surfaces less than ideal. Tell me where that factors into your argument that the midfield can't play on shit pitches.

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It's like the cricket, Pommps. When you tour India you know the pitches are prepared to suit their players. Doesn't mean visiting teams can't win there (even England won there not that long ago), but it gives the home team as big an advantage as possible. Also doesn't mean that Indians teams can't win games away on pitches that don't suit, as they do.
 
I bet Shaun Miller wished we had a Desso instead of our former pudding of a pitch,which was directly responsible for him snapping his ACL,he would not have suffered that injury on the Desso
 
Tunstall Fred said:
I bet Shaun Miller wished we had a Desso instead of our former pudding of a pitch,which was directly responsible for him snapping his ACL,he would not have suffered that injury on the Desso
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You got the medical report on that?

How many players have played on our pitches and not suffered ACL injuries. How many have suffered ACL injuries?

If you are basing your requirement to spunk £1.2m on the latter divided by the former you are McCabe and I claim my £5.

You'll have to do better than that.

pommpey
 
I should coco said:
Were you actually there?

We faded badly and were almost hanging on at the end. Crappie pitch didn't help but we never played as a team and all three goals conceded were very poor.

Even the support was mediocre. More than 50% of the crowd but we never managed more than one half arsed song every 5 minutes. Not been to that many aways this season but I didn't particularly enjoy yesterday.
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The pitch was ok actually.
It must have been , because Rochdale played some free-flowing stuff straight through us.
We got a point only because we somehow went 2-0 up at the start.
All their goals were the result of shockingly bad defending by us.
WTF was Freeman doing for the first ? Play to the whistle mate !
WTF was CW thinking of for the second ? Carruthers on for OConnell and let's try 442 ?
Soon corrected that blunder didn't he when he threw on EEL to go back to the system we know.
And WTF was the entire team doing for the third ? Defenders chasing shadows. Me & my 3 mates , all 60 years old , could have put that move together in the space we gave Rochdale.
I tell you what , CW may have been honest in his radio interview , but he will have been bouncing some home truths through the players skulls after that display.
We weren't too bad on the ball , especially Duffy , but out of possession we were very very poor.
 
I should coco said:
Were you actually there?

We faded badly and were almost hanging on at the end. Crappie pitch didn't help but we never played as a team and all three goals conceded were very poor.

Even the support was mediocre. More than 50% of the crowd but we never managed more than one half arsed song every 5 minutes. Not been to that many aways this season but I didn't particularly enjoy yesterday.
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All that is no doubt true. None of it justifies a conclusion that we 'deserved to lose'. That's the usual Bladey self-flagellation.
 
pommpey said:
As long as it hampers our chances of being promoted.

Of course.

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You get a Desso pitch when you buy a Desso pitch. There's no guarantee of a good team if you divert funds towards it - were living proof of that. Clough, in particular, had a phenomenal budget to get us out of league One and failed. I wish the Tevez money and parachute payments had gone towards rebuilding the kop and/or the South Stand rather than Bryan Robson, and that's not hindsight. We could also have used it on a Desso pitch or improving our academy status from Cat two to one - maybe we'd have produced more footballers and kept some of them since then? Managers and players are an expensive gamble which we keep getting wrong. I'm for an organic, gradual approach, in which we improve the playing and non playing assets of the club, and move away from the benefactor model as much as possible. Even if we have an owner with a bottomless pit, I would like them to invest in improving revenue streams ala Man City.
 
Pinchy said:
Fan wishes for poorer pitch. Only in S2. I think he drinks a bit too much rum. Best not to encourage him. He used to have only one topic but has now extended his repertoire by 100%. There's only so much daftness one messageboard can take.
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PO1 or PO2 whatever, not in S2!
 
pommpey said:
You got the medical report on that?

How many players have played on our pitches and not suffered ACL injuries. How many have suffered ACL injuries?

If you are basing your requirement to spunk £1.2m on the latter divided by the former you are McCabe and I claim my £5.

You'll have to do better than that.

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Even if I did produce a medical report or any other evidence you wouldn't change your view would you?
 
Also worth mentioning, that the club spent a lot of money getting Desso pitches for the academy sides. A lot of games get called of at this level, but not so many at Shirecliffe.
 
Tunstall Fred said:
Even if I did produce a medical report or any other evidence you wouldn't change your view would you?
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Produce it. You have claimed that the old pitch was the cause of it. I am simply asking if you have any evidence to support that claim, or is it like much of the rest of the supporting evidence, completely groundless?

pommpey
 
MobileBlade said:
You have to go to the match to see if it is a lottery. Otherwise opinions are passed on 90 second You Tube clips.
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Or the league position.

11th last season on a Desso pitch

1st this season on a Desso pitch.

Is that on YouTube?

pommpey
 



pommpey said:
Produce it. You have claimed that the old pitch was the cause of it. I am simply asking if you have any evidence to support that claim, or is it like much of the rest of the supporting evidence, completely groundless?

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It is my opinion that the old pudding of a pitch was responsible for Millers injury,you disagree fair enough
 
pommpey said:
Produce it. You have claimed that the old pitch was the cause of it. I am simply asking if you have any evidence to support that claim, or is it like much of the rest of the supporting evidence, completely groundless?
pommpey
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Planet Hornblower must be a strange place. How's about you prove evidence that The Blades (Kevin McCsbe) were potless and had to sell Jamie Murphy to pay for it, as it seems that your endless repetetive posts suggest

Let the Lane rot. Buy center halves
 
Pinchy said:
Fan wishes for poorer pitch. Only in S2. I think he drinks a bit too much rum. Best not to encourage him. He used to have only one topic but has now extended his repertoire by 100%. There's only so much daftness one messageboard can take.
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Says Pinchy.

pommpey
 
Top Cat said:
Planet Hornblower must be a strange place. How's about you prove evidence that The Blades (Kevin McCsbe) were potless and had to sell Jamie Murphy to pay for it, as it seems that your endless repetetive posts suggest

Let the Lane rot. Buy center halves
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Fuck me! He's back! After having his cover blown as the Bladesmad duty dickhead, his arse served on a plate by Tyler et al and laying low until closing time, the board's ex-semi-professional is here to offer his ten-pennorth worth of fuck all on the pile-on.

Off you go geeeeetarman. The room marked 'fuck' is in that direction.

pommpey
 
Tunstall Fred said:
It is my opinion that the old pudding of a pitch was responsible for Millers injury,you disagree fair enough
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Nope. These were your words:

I bet Shaun Miller wished we had a Desso instead of our former pudding of a pitch,which was directly responsible for him snapping his ACL,he would not have suffered that injury on the Desso
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You're obviously ITK. Lets see your working out.

pommpey
 
pommpey said:
Fuck me! He's back! After having his cover blown as the Bladesmad duty dickhead, his arse served on a plate by Tyler et al and laying low until closing time, the board's ex-semi-professional is here to offer his ten-pennorth worth of fuck all on the pile-on.

Off you go geeeeetarman. The room marked 'fuck' is in that direction.

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You are amusing Hornblower. How are you getting along with the new submarine's?

Have you finished them yet?

So what did you think to the Desso, on your one visit?
 
Top Cat said:
You are amusing Hornblower. How are you getting along with the new submarine's?

Have you finished them yet?

So what did you think to the Desso, on your one visit?
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Bugger. There's me changing my avatar to Pugwash, and now you are calling me 'Hornblower'. Make your fucking mind up, eh?

Which submarine's (note: possessive) are we talking about? Like you know anything about "submarine's".

Lets talk about 'geeetarman' and Bladesmad, shall we? And your car dealership, former career as a big-bucks semi-pro and all the rest of the horseshit people know you know fuck all about and claim to have done.

Off you go.

pommpey
 
pommpey said:
Okay. I think aliens broke Brian Smith's leg. I mean, I heard the crack when he went in for the tackle, but aliens did it.

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Happened right in front of me,no laughing matter for Brian,he was never the same again,that was on another shocking surface
 
Tunstall Fred said:
Happened right in front of me,no laughing matter for Brian,he was never the same again,that was on another shocking surface
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I heard it from three quarters of the way up the kop. And AFAIR, it was a dry day with the pitch in decent nick, both players going in for a hospital ball. Unfortunately for Brian, that's where he ended up.

Why don't we see injuries attributed to non-Desso pitches when we play away from home TF?

pommpey
 



pommpey said:
I heard it from three quarters of the way up the kop. And AFAIR, it was a dry day with the pitch in decent nick.

Why don't we see injuries attributed to non-Desso pitches when we play away from home TF?

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It happened away at Field Mill Mansfield didn't it?,I was on the side terrace
 
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