bolton points deduction

[super_pig]

Not bothered either way. For me.... promotion is promotion.
It will be a distant memory in a few years and no one would even remember how we achieved it.
It's a bit like how no one remembers the bad run of results in Warnocks promotion season and some of the poor displays under him even though we'd ended up promoted.

doesn't sit well with me it's the kind of shoddy thing west ham would do

 

[moDtheGod]

doesn't sit well with me it's the kind of shoddy thing west ham would do

Nonsense. If someone breaks the rules, they should be properly punished. And if they are docked points, someone else will obviously benefit. Even if that side was West Ham, or even the pigs, I wouldn't have a problem with the rules being correctly enforced, how can that possibly not "sit well" with you?

Maybe what you really meant was that they're a bunch of jammy cunts and you wouldn't be surprised to see them benefit from something like that - in which case I would agree.

 

[moDtheGod]

so why not take an interest in what's happening at other clubs?

Exactly. I mean, look at you posting on this Sheffield Untied forum. It didn't put you off your game on Saturday, when you equalised against Raith. You useless fat bastard.

 

[Whiston Blade]

Let's just worry about our own team getting promotion, rather than other teams, fs.

 

[chesblade]

Isn't it today they have to have there accounts in .

 

[seanbeenstattoo]

Not bothered either way. For me.... promotion is promotion.
It will be a distant memory in a few years and no one would even remember how we achieved it.
It's a bit like how no one remembers the bad run of results in Warnocks promotion season and some of the poor displays under him even though we'd ended up promoted.

A distant memory?
Ah you mean like Boxing Day?
Cos that's NEVER brought up is it??

 

[Muttley]

They wont be deducted any points as SHEFFIELD UNITED will be the main beneficiaries. Brooking and Co will see to it.

 

[The Crab]

Surely a points deduction would be unfair on their fans...

Only if they're from West Ham, who as everyone knows won the World Cup in 1966

 

[Stretch]

Not bothered either way. For me.... promotion is promotion.
It will be a distant memory in a few years and no one would even remember how we achieved it.
It's a bit like how no one remembers the bad run of results in Warnocks promotion season and some of the poor displays under him even though we'd ended up promoted.

doesn't sit well with me it's the kind of shoddy thing west ham would do

I take your point, but I'm with Sheffsteel on this. Whilst I would prefer to blast our way to promotion and win the title I honestly couldn't care less how we go up any more. 2nd place, 10 points behind Scunny in controversial circumstances will do me.
Besides, isn't it about time that we profited from someone else's misfortune, rather than the other way around?

 

[The Crab]

More likely that we blow up and finish third DESPITE a 10 point deduction for Bolton. Probably pipping us to automatic on goal difference. Then we scrape through to the Play-Off final without scoring a goal due to a striker injury crisis, to set up the inevitable 1-0 defeat at Wembley (either last minute of normal time or last minute of extra time, take your pick)

Fucking Football Gods, even they wouldn't stoop that low.....................would they?

 

[The Crab]

Yeh sorry about that, that's what I meant. Relegation not promotion.

The rules were changed in 2007 when Leeds and non league Boston both went into admin towards the end of the season but can conveniently timing it once they knew their fate of being relegated. Both clubs were hoping their 10 point admin punishment would take immediate effect for that season (as per the rules at the time). So in effect there would be no real punishment.

The FL league didn't allow it and both clubs were still given the minus 10 point punishment for the following year.

Weren't Boston relegated two divisions as a result of this. I might be wrong.

 

[UnitedBlade]

Bolton have signed Chris Long on loan from Burnley.

No idea what he is like.

They now have 5 loanees which is the maximum they can name in a match day squad.

Apparently Odemwinge watched them on Saturday and his Rotherham deal runs out shortly so could sign later as out of contract.

Unless they sell or terminate contracts I don't think they can add players under this embargo.

 

[S64 Blade]

Bolton have signed Chris Long on loan from Burnley.

No idea what he is like.

A poor man's Shane Long.

 

[Broomhall Blade]

Bolton have signed Chris Long on loan from Burnley.

No idea what he is like.

They now have 5 loanees which is the maximum they can name in a match day squad.

Apparently Odemwinge watched them on Saturday and his Rotherham deal runs out shortly so could sign later as out of contract.

Unless they sell or terminate contracts I don't think they can add players under this embargo.

Been on loan at Fleetwood scored 4 goals. It was supposed to be a season long loan at the Cod army, but he's only played in 4 games since the middle of November.

Bolton fans seem to think their problems are more of a creativity problem, slow build up passing backwards and sideways(now where have we heard that before) than a Sticker problem, so not sure how he will help that.
They seem to be missing Ameobi and are hoping to get him back.

 

[BushBlade]

Weren't Boston relegated two divisions as a result of this. I might be wrong.

From memory I think it was because they were making illegal cash in hand payments to players.

 

[The Crab]

From memory I think it was because they were making illegal cash in hand payments to players.

Yes it's probably that.

 

[I should coco]

From memory I think it was because they were making illegal cash in hand payments to players.

A certain rotund Scottish ex-Rovrum manager was banned for his involvement too. Sadly it was not a life ban.......

 

[The Crab]

A certain rotund Scottish ex-Rovrum manager was banned for his involvement too. Sadly it was not a life ban.......

It was a life ban, they saw the state of him and didn't think he'd last much longer

 

[GaryHamsonsLeftBootLace]

Just out of interest what is the latest with Bolton's financial irregularities problem in terms of a points deduction.

We're still 7 points clear of Bolton, who's current form is as bad as ours. I'd be more concerned about the likes of in-form Southend and Fleetwood creeping up on us than Bolton being docked points. As Mr Gale so eloquently put it, to escape the charging bear you only need to run faster than your slowest mate.

 

[blade too long]

bolton have managed to side step being wound up by macron , but still owe the caterer , who is a wanderers fan and could cost them their status
http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/spor...al_settlement_with_Macron_after_legal_threat/

 

[Kenilworth]

Bolton fans seem to think their problems are more of a creativity problem, slow build up passing backwards and sideways(now where have we heard that before) than a Sticker problem, so not sure how he will help that.

Maybe Panini can help?

 

[JohnDenver]

The rule changed after what Leeds did.

Previously points deductions always took affect in the same season
But Leeds were very close to promotion so they waited and held off as long as possible.

About 2 weeks from the end of the season they knew they couldn't be promoted so immediately went into admin. The FL didn't allow it and still gave them a big points deduction in league 1 and then changed their rules to stop this happening again.

To paraphrase a cartoon character... It's funny because it's Leeds.

 

[Pinchy]

I believe theres a precedent for that, the Sir Trevor clause

It had absolutely nothing to do with him. The decision was made by an Independent Tribunal. They thought West Ham were dead and buried and a points deduction would be no punishment. Had they known what was to unfold they would undoubtedly have deducted points.

 

[Pinchy]

Pathetic how many threads there are about our rivals for promotion really.

It's essential. We have to acknowledge how much better they are than us, never "bottle it" like our tossers, won't falter, and condemn our own team to the play-offs at every opportunity. All this whilst conspicuously cap-dodging and fervently forelock-tugging and dreading the thought of facing the might of other teams who will "batter us".

It's the Bladesfans' Way....

 

[blade too long]

It had absolutely nothing to do with him. The decision was made by an Independent Tribunal. They thought West Ham were dead and buried and a points deduction would be no punishment. Had they known what was to unfold they would undoubtedly have deducted points.

thats pathetic
the prescribed punishment for playing unregistered players always carried a points deduction
no tribunal had the right to change this system especially mid season
with 10 games left 30 points were attainable so there could be no foregone conclusions made

 

[Pinchy]

thats pathetic
the prescribed punishment for playing unregistered players always carried a points deduction
no tribunal had the right to change this system especially mid season
with 10 games left 30 points were attainable so there could be no foregone conclusions made

Points deduction is one of many sanctions. It is not mandatory. I'm not agreeing with the decision by any means, simply stating what happened. "Brooking" is a nice conspiracy theory but it has no substance whatsoever.

 

[blade too long]

Points deduction is one of many sanctions. It is not mandatory. I'm not agreeing with the decision by any means, simply stating what happened. "Brooking" is a nice conspiracy theory but it has no substance whatsoever.

no the fact he worked at the FA had no relevance
whos idea was it that it would upset west ham fans who are loyal honest working folk
god forbid east london fans get upset

luton fans we can dock them 17 points who cares

both hartlepool and hereford were docked 3 points for 1 incident of 1 player playing in one game

west ham played 2 ineligible players over 20 odd games then lied to the tribunal and played them again after they were fined

 

[Fanny magnet]

no the fact he worked at the FA had no relevance
whos idea was it that it would upset west ham fans who are loyal honest working folk
god forbid east london fans get upset

luton fans we can dock them 17 points who cares

It was a premier league tribunal
In fact the f.a. we're instrumental in us getting some kind of justice

The Trevor brooking thing is just ill informed ignorant bollox I'm afraid

The tribunal was chaired by 3 qc's none of which were sir Trevor or in fact anyone to do with west ham

 

[blade too long]

It was a premier league tribunal
In fact the f.a. we're instrumental in us getting some kind of justice

The Trevor brooking thing is just ill informed ignorant bollox I'm afraid

The tribunal was chaired by 3 qc's none of which were sir Trevor or in fact anyone to do with west ham

its not the trevor bit that bothers me , its
both hartlepool and hereford were docked 3 points for 1 incident of 1 player playing in one game

west ham played 2 ineligible players over 20 odd games then lied to the tribunal and played them again after they were fined, still not properly registered
but werent brought to book for that

 

[vorpal blade]

I was walking to Bramall Lane when I discovered that they had delayed the decision on what to do with West Ham. It was apparent immediately that it was to be too late to dock points.

If they had reached the decision sooner to dock points, it wouldn't necessarily have condemned West Ham to relegation - it would have given them a fighting chance as it were.

Leaving it so late that a points deduction would have definitely sunk them was impossible because the likes of Scudamore weren't ever going to be brave enough to do that and if they had docked too few points to sink them they'd have been accused of tokenism.

Therefore, by leaving a decision on punishment till the last minute, it was always going to be impossible to dock points.

West Ham are; like it or not, among the best supported teams in the league, the Premier league wants them in the top division and they certainly DO have friends in high places...... they are part if the establishment, it's naive to think that there was no influence on the powers that be from the likes of Brooking.