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Now I don't want this to be taken as me suggesting that the players we have are not good enough as that is not the case, I just worry that the 'midfield three' we are playing in coutts, fleck and Duffy are so crucial to our style of play that missing one of them is a worry and missing two is a real issue, and although we have the players to fill in the spaces on the team sheet I worry we don't have the players to come in and continue our current style of play.

Just a thought for January and I'm aware it may not be a popular one as we have already taken one of their players but I think we could do a lot worse than having a look at Lewis Mcgugan at the sty, like I said I'm pretty much certain it won't be a popular suggestion but he's a goal scoring threat from midfield and a brilliant link up man in and around the strikers a la Duffy and could add that extra depth and quality needed to get us over the line, just a suggestion gents, opinions?
 



Problem with this is all three of the current midfielders are quality players. No established player of similar quality is going to come here to sit on the bench.

I don't think it's the first area we should look to strengthen anyway. And if we signed a wing back/wide player with good attacking ability that would offset the loss of any of the central midfielders to some extent.
 
Ricky said:
Problem with this is all three of the current midfielders are quality players. No established player of similar quality is going to come here to sit on the bench.

I don't think it's the first area we should look to strengthen anyway. And if we signed a wing back/wide player with good attacking ability that would offset the loss of any of the central midfielders to some extent.
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That's a very fair point and I agree, wouldn't know who in that case but I guess that's why we have scouts haha, aryibi at chessy is the only one off the top of my head but I think championship clubs will be in for him.
 
CharnockBlade said:
Apologies, please ignore me.
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Don't be bullied mate. Your point is perfectly valid as are the replies. Personally I think we need another striker unless CW has strong belief in Lavery or the Boro lad. I really don't think Sharp and Clarke can play together. Done is in a difficult spot as he isn't scoring but contributing hugely in other ways.
BTW. The answer to your perfectly reasonable post is Conor Coady. Wolves going down,get the lad back where he belongs.
 
CharnockBlade said:
Now I don't want this to be taken as me suggesting that the players we have are not good enough as that is not the case, I just worry that the 'midfield three' we are playing in coutts, fleck and Duffy are so crucial to our style of play that missing one of them is a worry and missing two is a real issue, and although we have the players to fill in the spaces on the team sheet I worry we don't have the players to come in and continue our current style of play.

Just a thought for January and I'm aware it may not be a popular one as we have already taken one of their players but I think we could do a lot worse than having a look at Lewis Mcgugan at the sty, like I said I'm pretty much certain it won't be a popular suggestion but he's a goal scoring threat from midfield and a brilliant link up man in and around the strikers a la Duffy and could add that extra depth and quality needed to get us over the line, just a suggestion gents, opinions?
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I don't know enough about the grunter you mention to form an opinion one way or another about his overall suitability for Us . But I fully concur with your overall sentiments though .

In fact , I'd go a step or two further . I'd like to see us recruit one for upfront , one for midfield and one for defence too . Three really solid appointments that boost our promotion credentials and send a clear message out to the rest of the Division .
 
I do worry about Fleck or Coutts being injured long term. I suppose the CW solution would be to chuck Mr Utility Basham into midfield but he doesn't have the creative flair required. In addition we do have young Brooks who could slot in. However the way CW has played it this season he has almost insisted on playing experienced players to the exclusion of our youth. I have no problem with that at the moment. Trouble is that the only players of calibre I can think of wouldn't drop down a division at this stage and it would be a risk disrupting what is clearly a very tight knit group of players. Bit of a conundrum.
 
coolhandluke said:
I don't know enough about the grunter you mention to form an opinion one way or another about his overall suitability for Us . But I fully concur with your overall sentiments though .

In fact , I'd go a step or two further . I'd like to see us recruit one for upfront , one for midfield and one for defence too . Three really solid appointments that boost our promotion credentials and send a clear message out to the rest of the Division .
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I'm pretty sure we'll be after at least two out of those three (and not to sit on the bench). That ain't bad...
 
Also the problem with McGugan is massive wages.

Even if SW agree for us to pay 50% of his wage
then that's a big investment for a squad player (used mainly as cover)

It wouldn't represent good value and we could use our money better.
Maybe we should make a cheeky bid to pay 20% of his wage.
 
coolhandluke said:
I don't know enough about the grunter you mention to form an opinion one way or another about his overall suitability for Us . But I fully concur with your overall sentiments though .

In fact , I'd go a step or two further . I'd like to see us recruit one for upfront , one for midfield and one for defence too . Three really solid appointments that boost our promotion credentials and send a clear message out to the rest of the Division .
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That would be great but I worry that our budget for January will only be what's left over from the summer. In which case we couldn't afford all those.

I'd be very disappointed if Wilder isn't afforded a bit extra to spend given what he's achieved so far. It would be a wasted opportunity which we'd probably live to regret.
 
It will be interesting to see whether CW thinks Whiteman or Reed are good enough to cover for injuries. I haven't seen enough of Whiteman really to form a solid opinion but our Louis can certainly pick a pass and has decent enough close control. Could he perhaps do a covering job in one of the sitting positions for Coutts or Fleck? I am basing this on Clough's second season though where he seemed to feature a lot and by all accounts has regressed since then so I could be pissing in the wind.

I think we have options to cover for Duffy in Scoogs and Chapman and each offer something a bit different, although for me Mark is easily the more intelligent footballer and is one of the first on the team sheet at present. I really enjoy watching the lad play.
 
seanbeenstattoo said:
Don't be bullied mate. Your point is perfectly valid as are the replies. Personally I think we need another striker unless CW has strong belief in Lavery or the Boro lad. I really don't think Sharp and Clarke can play together. Done is in a difficult spot as he isn't scoring but contributing hugely in other ways.
BTW. The answer to your perfectly reasonable post is Conor Coady. Wolves going down,get the lad back where he belongs.
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Agree with most of that SBT, athough personally I think Clarke and Sharpe could form a decent partnership given time we can't rely on it or wait forever and need to look at the forward line. As things stand we have 1 reliable goalscoring striker.

As for Coady, what a player he was for us, a goalscorer as well. I would even drop a striker just to accommodate him and our current midfield trio if needed. 4-2-3-1 would be a real option.
 



Id also like Utd to see if they could possibly prise Coady away from Wolves (double deal with EEL?) but the problem is may still want to fight for a place, be in the new man's plans at wolves, might not want to drop down to div 1 and a promotion which might not happen (it will though this time im convinced), Utd might not have the money, his wages might be very high for a div 1 club, and then there are agents fees to take into account. Only way we would possibly get Coady would be on loan. Coady might be a viable target next season if we go up as he is still young enough to get better.

However i think we would be better served trying to pick up the best of the players available in div 1 downwards. Forget about the top two divs for recruitment, too expensive and weve tried that before and failed. CW has recruited in this market this season and it seems to have worked well so far tbh. Stay with that theme is my hope.

I hope we are looking to bring in another forward (id go for Ched mi sen if he could prove his fitness), another midfielder / wide midfielder to challenge (ricky holmes would have been good), and another right back/left back (bring Brayford back?). Obviously another centre half if EEL goes back would be needed also.

Utd might just get by without any reinforcements but the time to strengthen is when your doing well. You are also more appealing to targets when you look as if you could be in the championship next season too and targets might not want the same financial package to come as they might if Utd were rooted to the bottom of the table. Nearly time for CW to refine his squad and apply the finishing touches, time for the board to back him.
 
Would be great, but Coady has played in nearly all their league games this season... Can't see him dropping down a level in January.
 
Stretch said:
It will be interesting to see whether CW thinks Whiteman or Reed are good enough to cover for injuries. I haven't seen enough of Whiteman really to form a solid opinion but our Louis can certainly pick a pass and has decent enough close control. Could he perhaps do a covering job in one of the sitting positions for Coutts or Fleck? I am basing this on Clough's second season though where he seemed to feature a lot and by all accounts has regressed since then so I could be pissing in the wind.

I think we have options to cover for Duffy in Scoogs and Chapman and each offer something a bit different, although for me Mark is easily the more intelligent footballer and is one of the first on the team sheet at present. I really enjoy watching the lad play.
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Sorry Stretch, I'm afraid you are pissing in the wind if you think Reed is the answer, he seems to go further down the pecking order every week as others overtake him in CW plans.
 
Bladesthorpe said:
Sorry Stretch, I'm afraid you are pissing in the wind if you think Reed is the answer, he seems to go further down the pecking order every week as others overtake him in CW plans.
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Wasn't suggesting he was the answer mate, more asking the question whether he has progressed at all from a couple of seasons ago. Looked tidy back then but far from the finished article.

Think you have answered the question for me. :)
 
Allow me to provide an answer to our midfield conundrum in the form of an anagram:

honed madman
 
Jake Forster-Caskey hasn't been a regular for Rotherham. He might as well be here instead...
 
Anthony Grant's contract is up in the summer. His name seems to have been mentioned for nearly as long as Duffy's was.
 
Has Bradley Dack's stock fallen since Gillingham turned down moves for him? He certainly has the energy to play in Wilder's team and an eye for a goal?
But probably still too expensive for us at the moment.
 
I think the OP raises a good point. To me, the disposable one in that midfield is Lafferty. I don't know if McGugan plays in that left midfield role but if he does, or could, then I think he would be a very good signing for us, but this is all speculation and I think there'd be the little issue of wages, plus why would he want to take a risk stepping down to League 1? We'd have to look pretty nailed on for auto in Jan for him to even consider it - assuming we were willing to afford it.
 



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