Great response from Wilder..

[GrayBlade]

Nope - Nether Edge. No connection, just taking in a game.

A lot Burton fans are on a grand tour of famous football grounds this season. Bloke today said he used to drive past Leeds to see Burton at Farsley Celtic. Now he's seen them play there, and he's off to Villa, Newcastle, etc etc...

In other news, Brayford had a solid game today. Chris O'Grady too. Can also see why they allowed Duffy to leave - they're going spend a lot of this season chasing the ball...

Ah cheers. They're a good set of fans the Burt-onions. Really living the dream right now.

I worked out of Burton in the 90's and watched a few, we used to sponsor them, their old ground was a real tip mind.

 

[GrayBlade]

Nauseating embarrassing wanker.

Or NEW for short

 

[metalblade]

Well said CW todays result smacks of last seasons sloppiness and also a missed opportunity to gain ground on Scunny

 

[coolhandluke]

I must confess , even with only one point today and arguably two points lost not one gained I was reasonably happy with a draw down there .

Then I heard CW and his interview . Wow , he's fucking fuming ! Well done Mr Wilder for sticking tenaciously to your guns . We turn defeats to draws and draws to wins NOT wins to draws and god forbid the players who don't instinctively go for the kill .

I've never heard this from a manager of ours .

 

[Woodwardfan]

Wilder said he had "let his players off the last couple of games", dead right he did, we were poor v Bury and v Shrewsbury.

We are not creative enough, organised enough, precise enough, together enough, in the final third.

Lafferty, Coutts, Scougall, Done, Clarke as yet, Sharp of late don't create enough clear cut chances; include O'Connell and EEL who have played more or less as wing backs in the last two home games. . Hopeful crosses and slow sideways passes get us nowhere.

Todays stats are so one-sided and yet we only scored one goal and that from a set-piece.

 

[Pinchy]

We were OK first half but it was 50:50, second half we dominated the game and should really have put it to bed. But we didn't take our chances.

Not according to the BBC stats, which had us on top throughout, as did the RS commentary. I appreciate you were there and I was not, but that old and comfortable Bladey inferiority complex is never far away...

 

[Pinchy]

Wilder said he had "let his players off the last couple of games", dead right he did, we were poor v Bury and v Shrewsbury.

We are not creative enough, organised enough, precise enough, together enough, in the final third.

Lafferty, Coutts, Scougall, Done, Clarke as yet, Sharp of late don't create enough clear cut chances; include O'Connell and EEL who have played more or less as wing backs in the last two home games. . Hopeful crosses and slow sideways passes get us nowhere.

Todays stats are so one-sided and yet we only scored one goal and that from a set-piece.

Actually the first half against Shrewsbury was just about the best we've played all season. I know. I was there. I saw it. My advantage is that I don't indulge in final score hindsight; others do.

Is the solution to bring in Little Louis and givimarun? It is, isn't it? You know it is....

 

[Woodwardfan]

Actually the first half against Shrewsbury was just about the best we've played all season. I know. I was there. I saw it. My advantage is that I don't indulge in final score hindsight; others do.

Is the solution to bring in Little Louis and givimarun? It is, isn't it? You know it is....

Hope you don't mean by that as if I wasn't there too Pinchy.

 

[Ricky]

Wilder said he had "let his players off the last couple of games", dead right he did, we were poor v Bury and v Shrewsbury.

We are not creative enough, organised enough, precise enough, together enough, in the final third.

Lafferty, Coutts, Scougall, Done, Clarke as yet, Sharp of late don't create enough clear cut chances; include O'Connell and EEL who have played more or less as wing backs in the last two home games. . Hopeful crosses and slow sideways passes get us nowhere.

Todays stats are so one-sided and yet we only scored one goal and that from a set-piece.

We could do with more real quality up top and/or out wide. I agree we often don't create enough clear cut chances, which is surprising given the run of goalscoring form.

Look at our 3 hard away games recently - Scunny, Bradford, Charlton. 6 goals is good, but the only one from open play was Sharp's first at Bradford. 3 from free kicks, 1 from a corner and 1 penalty.

As I said, we could just do with a little bit extra.

 

[Pinchy]

Interesting many Charlton fans said our whole team was brilliant let down by twoo ageing, slow strikers in Sharp and Clarke. Many of them said if we had better strikers we would have won 4 or 5-0. I definitely think we need to really splash the cash in January on a quality compliment to Billy. Not sure any of the other options are quite goood enough (useful certian games/subs) but none have scored consistently this season or played consistently.

We will need a centre back and a centre forward in January. Like to see us go for the lad at Bristol Rovers, Taylor.

Don't underestimate Leon Clarke. He is just returning from a long lay-off. Perhaps we should give him the same latitude as Runaround Done?

 

[coolhandluke]

Hope you don't mean by that as if I wasn't there too Pinchy.

Woody , mate . We all know you were there but we all know you only see things with your Bladey blade glasses on .

Leave the analysis to those in the know .

You know it makes sense

 

[Pinchy]

Hope you don't mean by that as if I wasn't there too Pinchy.

Good. Then you should have noticed our excellent first half performance and not allowed your views to be conditioned by the frustration of a second half played in highly unusual circumstances, including severe disruption to our own team.

Time for Little Louis?...

 

[Sneinton Blade 1952]

D

Just compare Wilder's standards with Clough's... and we're in the same division, with a budget no bigger.

Night and day. Right and wrong.

I love Wilder. But don't knock Clough. First, if you haven't noticed, he's managing a championship club - where we dream to be. And second, close to half of our team were brought in by funny little Nigel - Freeman, Done, Scougall, Coutts, Basham. So he doesn't deserve the vitriol.

 

[Tyler Durden]

D

I love Wilder. But don't knock Clough. First, if you haven't noticed, he's managing a championship club - where we dream to be. And second, close to half of our team were brought in by funny little Nigel - Freeman, Done, Scougall, Coutts, Basham. So he doesn't deserve the vitriol.

Nah, Clunt doesn't even come close to Wilder. He will not be a league manager in 3-5 years time.

Unfortunately you need to have a bit more up your sleeve than being Brians son.

 

[Davie Blade]

CW is well pissed off in a very positive way and I'm sure he gave the players a right royal round of fucks.
The way things are shaking out it may well be be that it is another 90 plus points season to get auto promotion.
Three clubs are way ahead of the pack.
At this level 2 dropped points is fecking massive.

 

[Weasel]

At long last we have a winner as our manager who demonstrates a winners mentality. It used to drive me up the fkin wall when our previous managers (i.e. the one who wanted a tight knit squad of 45 and who spunked away the biggest budget in the division on mostly shite, and the other who was a cad and a day dreaming idiot of the highest order who talked about fkin geese ffs) regularly talked about how it was gunna be a very tough game versus bobtail and bollox fc. Wilder is a winner and demands winners reprenting him and his club, the others were stone cold losers (clough will be found out idc i have no doubts - adkins probably already has been). Thank fuk for CW. My type of manager for sufc.

 

[spongebobblade]

At long last we have a winner as our manager who demonstrates a winners mentality. It used to drive me up the fkin wall when our previous managers (i.e. the one who wanted a tight knit squad of 45 and who spunked away the biggest budget in the division on mostly shite, and the other who was a cad and a day dreaming idiot of the highest order who talked about fkin geese ffs) regularly talked about how it was gunna be a very tough game versus bobtail and bollox fc. Wilder is a winner and demands winners reprenting him and his club, the others were stone cold losers (clough will be found out idc i have no doubts - adkins probably already has been). Thank fuk for CW. My type of manager for sufc.

Bobtail and bollox

 

[grafikhaus]

I must confess , even with only one point today and arguably two points lost not one gained I was reasonably happy with a draw down there .

Then I heard CW and his interview . Wow , he's fucking fuming ! Well done Mr Wilder for sticking tenaciously to your guns . We turn defeats to draws and draws to wins NOT wins to draws and god forbid the players who don't instinctively go for the kill .

I've never heard this from a manager of ours .

When a manager criticises his team he's indirectly laying the blame at his own door - team selection, tactics, formation etc. Most managers are spineless cunts and blame things like the ref, pitch, dodgy decisions etc. Thank God CW isn't like that. If the team doesn't react on Tuesday, some of them had better not get too settled...

 

[Rodders]

Actually the first half against Shrewsbury was just about the best we've played all season. I know. I was there. I saw it. My advantage is that I don't indulge in final score hindsight; others do.

Is the solution to bring in Little Louis and givimarun? It is, isn't it? You know it is....

Off tangent but the 1st half against Shrewsbury was reminiscent of the Sunderland home game in 97/98.

 

[Cerberus Blade]

Doesn't sound very happy, good, we've got to be more ruthless in front of the goal.
We weren't hanging on at all, anywhere in the game, we weren't outplayed at anytime. So to come away with a draw, as good as a point may have seemed at 3-o'clock, gutted.
And reading between the lines, he's let the players know about it as well. They'll be up for it Tuesday.
Fuck the gods, well get at least 3 against Walsall.

I take it you went - I didn't - so you will know better than me because I've only seen short video clips and heard stuff second hand. However, there are two observations I have: First, in common with the last 2 games, we struggled to put the ball in the net despite having all the possession. Second, the defending was awful from their free kick. Cult hero, 6' 4", Ebanks-Landell never even got off the ground and attempted to head it. Morgs would have eaten that ball in his day. Basham was another one who could/should have got a head somewhere near it.

I've heard Wilder's interview and do you know what's good about it? He picked out both these things and said exactly the same. He may not have named names like I have, but he referred to "3 big centre halves" being at fault. And they were. Some more than others. Look back at the video and see.

I agree we've got to be more ruthless in front of goal, especially If we are going to defend like that! And why did we concede a free kick in a dangerous area like that to begin with? You'll have look towards the ineffectual Lafferty for the answer to that one.

Very disappointed with the result in the end and I'm glad we have a manager who has the balls to say the same thing. Although if he'd said it on this forum he'd have got lambasted for being negative no doubt!

 

[Cerberus Blade]

Great interview.

Will be interesting to see the response on Saturday.

I think you mean Tuesday don't you?

 

[Cerberus Blade]

Off tangent but the 1st half against Shrewsbury was reminiscent of the Sunderland home game in 97/98.

Whoosh! Sorry mate, I really can't remember the details of the Sunderland home game in 1997/98. Was that the first match of the season where Borbokis scored a belting free kick? That's about the only thing I can recall from previous games with Sunderland over the past half decade. That and getting walloped at the Stadium of Light and hearing James Brown's "I feel good" over the tannoy every time they scored.

 

[Woodwardfan]

When a manager criticises his team he's indirectly laying the blame at his own door - team selection, tactics, formation etc. Most managers are spineless cunts and blame things like the ref, pitch, dodgy decisions etc. Thank God CW isn't like that. If the team doesn't react on Tuesday, some of them had better not get too settled...

I think that's right and I said as much after the Bury and Shrewsbury games. For incisive play in the final third of the pitch our players do not have enough creativity against defensive teams.

Basham and Lafferty at wing back is not good enough creatively. Added to that Coutts and Fleck rarely further attacks centrally which would suit Sharp and Done more. Scougall flits in and out and Sharp and Done don't play that well together, nor do Sharp and Clarke. At least Clarke offers an aerial presence. Long, hopeful high crosses from the wing backs and defenders such as EEL and O'Connell are not very productive.

I think Wilder is saying that he is really disappointed that Done and Sharp don't play well together, his wing backs are ordinary and despite Sharp's goal haul we should have done a lot better as a team. He's happy with the work rate and commitment but it all looks a bit samey samey without more variation of attack and no signs of forward players developing understandings.

It's all about the manager's belief that his forward players can come up with the goods. He has assembled quality strikers in Lavery, Clarke to add to Done and Sharp and at this stage of the season he is not satisfied with their productivity as a group that's not gelling well enough.

I wasn't at Charlton, my views are based on the last two home games and the first half at Chesterfield, if half games are relevant. The manager's post match comments at Charlton do not surprise me at all though. We are not scoring enough goals when the opposition park the bus and that our possession and dominance warrant.

 

[frank drebin]

Whoosh! Sorry mate, I really can't remember the details of the Sunderland home game in 1997/98. Was that the first match of the season where Borbokis scored a belting free kick? That's about the only thing I can recall from previous games with Sunderland over the past half decade. That and getting walloped at the Stadium of Light and hearing James Brown's "I feel good" over the tannoy every time they scored.

Deanos return
Boborkis more performance
United completely overrunning a very good Sunderland side from start to finish
the energy and buzz from inside that stadium that day was the best I've ever felt

Would pay a kings ransom to experience it again just once

 

[Woodwardfan]

Deanos return
Boborkis more performance
United completely overrunning a very good Sunderland side from start to finish
the energy and buzz from inside that stadium that day was the best I've ever felt

Would pay a kings ransom to experience it again just once

First half v Shrewsbury nothing like then, I agree!

 

[Woodwardfan]

Good. Then you should have noticed our excellent first half performance and not allowed your views to be conditioned by the frustration of a second half played in highly unusual circumstances, including severe disruption to our own team.

Time for Little Louis?...

That's OK Pinchy, we all get mixed up sometimes so late at night!!

As for Reed, he was MOM in the last U-23 game and if he keeps doing that he'll get his chance on the bench. More likely to go out on loan in January though, hope he goes to a good club.

 

[Rodders]

I think that's right and I said as much after the Bury and Shrewsbury games. For incisive play in the final third of the pitch our players do not have enough creativity against defensive teams.

Basham and Lafferty at wing back is not good enough creatively. Added to that Coutts and Fleck rarely further attacks centrally which would suit Sharp and Done more. Scougall flits in and out and Sharp and Done don't play that well together, nor do Sharp and Clarke. At least Clarke offers an aerial presence. Long, hopeful high crosses from the wing backs and defenders such as EEL and O'Connell are not very productive.

I think Wilder is saying that he is really disappointed that Done and Sharp don't play well together, his wing backs are ordinary and despite Sharp's goal haul we should have done a lot better as a team. He's happy with the work rate and commitment but it all looks a bit samey samey without more variation of attack and no signs of forward players developing understandings.

It's all about the manager's belief that his forward players can come up with the goods. He has assembled quality strikers in Lavery, Clarke to add to Done and Sharp and at this stage of the season he is not satisfied with their productivity as a group that's not gelling well enough.

I wasn't at Charlton, my views are based on the last two home games and the first half at Chesterfield, if half games are relevant. The manager's post match comments at Charlton do not surprise me at all though. We are not scoring enough goals when the opposition park the bus and that our possession and dominance warrant.

Why not the 2nd half vs Chesterfield?

 

[Esablade]

Eeza Blade an Eeza Blade warms the cockles of your ticker on a cold winter's neet

Warms my cockles

 

[HighfieldBlade]

Yeah but can he recite poems?

Dafuq?!

 

[Razor1967]

Great interview.

Will be interesting to see the response on Saturday.

Or even on Tuesday