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I think Lavery may eventually replace Done, but his fitness will have to improve.You need at least an hour at full pelt in a Tufty team. No passengers! Sharp or Clarke for the other place.

I thought that when Lavery signed. Having seen his appearances off the bench today and against MK Dons, I'm not convinced he's ready to start yet.
 



We've seen more than enough of Sharp to recognise that's he's our best goal scorer by a country mile

As for his partner upfront ..... well Sharp appears to do very well indeed when it's Done he's partnered with . And , love it or hate it , that is a very real statistical fact

Maybe Sharp will do best with Done, but will the team do best with that partnership?

Sharp might score less playing alongside someone else, but will that someone score enough goals more than Done to compensate for it? I'd say there's a good chance they would. And if it's Lavery or Chapman, the pressing would still be good. Then there's the increased creativity those two will offer when they've got the ball.
 
We've seen more than enough of Sharp to recognise that's he's our best goal scorer by a country mile

As for his partner upfront ..... well Sharp appears to do very well indeed when it's Done he's partnered with . And , love it or hate it , that is a very real statistical fact

I agree. The runs of Matt Done open up space for both Sharp and crucially others. It ain't no surprise that Scougall is playing well. Done takes the game to the opposition with his pace and runs in a central way that Clarke doesn't. Done tires out the defence and they don't know where he is.

Equally, I agree his conversions and goal rate isn't what is expected from a striker. BUT it is a team game and if his play and role is to open up opportunities for others, then he is invaluable and as said in the earlier post the stats do speak for themselves.

Now, I suppose the ideal striker is someone who leads that line, makes the dangerous runs, enables poachers like Sharp to profit from defensive errors, creates the space for midfielders to follow in AND knows where the onion bag is... Ring any bells the last time we had a player like that??
 
Maybe Sharp will do best with Done, but will the team do best with that partnership?

Sharp might score less playing alongside someone else, but will that someone score enough goals more than Done to compensate for it? I'd say there's a good chance they would. And if it's Lavery or Chapman, the pressing would still be good. Then there's the increased possibility of them making things happen with the ball in terms of creating things.

13 or 14 games unbeaten with a front two of Sharp and Done appears to suggest we do do better as a team .
 
13 or 14 games unbeaten with a front two of Sharp and Done appears to suggest we do do better as a team .

It suggests we do well as a team. It doesn't suggest we do better than we would with any other pairing, as we've not seen enough of any other pairing.
 
Not too fussed about Leons record, the star of Coventry and Bury doesn't get me all that giddy to be honest. I don't get over excited about past glories either and I definitely want the best for my club, I just don't think it comes in the guise of a slow, lazy, one dimensional lump with a poor first touch. Sort of goes against all you hark on about singing the praises of this type of player.

No meltdown from me after the result today, the only disappointment was the timing of the equaliser but the unbeaten run goes on, we have a fucking ace manager so the last thing I need to do is have a row on here.

Enjoy your plonk, I heard the Argies piss in it when they know it's being exported to the UK :eek:

So they should. Our evil and happily dead prime minister slaughtered many of their sons, fathers and husbands. I drink to them every bit as much as British losses.
 
It suggests we do well as a team. It doesn't suggest we do better than we would with any other pairing, as we've not seen enough of any other pairing.


Ricky . If it's not broken don't fix it .

Or are you seriously suggesting we'd either have done better with a different front two or will do better with a different front 2 ?

Well we didn't today .

I think CW got it wrong today .
 
13 or 14 games unbeaten with a front two of Sharp and Done appears to suggest we do do better as a team .

We were 1-0 up when Leon went off today. Do you think Tufty was wrong to leave out old Runaround No-Goals?
 
Ricky . If it's not broken don't fix it .

Or are you seriously suggesting we'd either have done better with a different front two or will do better with a different front 2 ?

Well we didn't today .

I think CW got it wrong today .

Yes I'm seriously suggesting it with 100% confidence. Done is a hard working mediocrity. Nothing more. Funny how CW gets it wrong by leaving out your favourite isn't it?
 
Can't imagine they're doing much at all after a bottle and a half of Argie Juice. The old wooden hill might be particularly steep t'neet...

It won't be climbed until the second bottle is finished...oh, it is! Night...
 
Ricky . If it's not broken don't fix it .

Or are you seriously suggesting we'd either have done better with a different front two or will do better with a different front 2 ?

Well we didn't today .

Actually we were much better today then we were in the last two games, which Done started. We had no problem stopping Charlton from playing, something Done often gets a lot of credit for. See the comments about the number of backpasses on the view from.

It's not black and white when it comes to changing a winning team. You can change an individual without risking the overall dynamic. Then there's the horses for courses factor. You should always be looking to improve, even when you're winning. A striker who doesn't score is a good candidate to be improved on.
 
Yes I'm seriously suggesting it with 100% confidence. Done is a hard working mediocrity. Nothing more. Funny how CW gets it wrong by leaving out your favourite isn't it?


If Done was " my favourite " you may have a point . But as he has never been and almost certainly never will be " my favourite " you are wrong
.... again .

My " favourite " is Sheffield United . And that's the reason why I never allow puerile personal agendas to cloud my judgement . If he's good for the team as a whole , he plays , regardless of my opinion of any individual .
 
Been today, great performance on the whole, really dominant. One grumble though, as it always seems to be, is Matt Done. He's simply not good enough when playing up front. He misses 3/4 clear chances for every goal he scores and always seems to be offside. Throughout this run other players have chipped in with goals in games he's missed sitters. Hopefully now Clarke's back on the scene Done will be dropped.
Been saying this since start of season. Love his workrate but he's no striker.
 
Actually we were much better today then we were in the last two games, which Done started. We had no problem stopping Charlton from playing, something Done often gets a lot of credit for. See the comments about the number of backpasses on the view from.

It's not black and white when it comes to changing a winning team. You can change an individual without risking the overall dynamic. Then there's the horses for courses factor. You should always be looking to improve, even when you're winning. A striker who doesn't score is a good candidate to be improved on.


Statistically we weren't better today Ricky . We won the other two

I will agree on something though . We should never stop trying to improve . I'm of the opinion , however , that upfront our only chance of improvement comes in January
 



If Done was " my favourite " you may have a point . But as he has never been and almost certainly never will be " my favourite " you are wrong
.... again .

My " favourite " is Sheffield United . And that's the reason why I never allow puerile personal agendas to cloud my judgement . If he's good for the team as a whole , he plays , regardless of my opinion of any individual .

He's rhubarb. He won't be in the team after January at the latest...
Wait and see...
 
He's rhubarb. He won't be in the team after January at the latest...
Wait and see...

Still banging on about it Pinchy eh? But still not confident to take a bet on. I see Clarke scored.
 
Still banging on about it Pinchy eh? But still not confident to take a bet on. I see Clarke scored.

Of course I'll take a bet mate. If I remember the ball was in your court. I say Done won't start more than 50% of games from 1/2/17 to end of season. I say that because I know, and Tufty knows, that Ol' Runaround ain't good enough. Neither he nor I suffer mediocrities gladly.
 
There's no evidence to suggest Clarke or Lavery are a better option. So for me, it's Done's shirt.

How about the number of goals Leon has scored in his career compared with one flash in the pan season from Runaround Done?

Done's shirt would fare a lot better with a footballer inside it....
 
How about the number of goals Leon has scored in his career compared with one flash in the pan season from Runaround Done?

Done's shirt would fare a lot better with a footballer inside it....

You need to be careful mate, you're fast hurtling towards Curtis/Cresswell, Herbert/Clough territory. ;)
 
Today was about recognising that Runaround Done is not good enough.

Still, carry on wishing on a star that your terminally limited trier might come good...
We still haven't seen anywhere near enough of Sharp and anyone else to decide that Done's indispensable.

They were up against a pair of good centre halves today, and a defence considerably better than most we'll come up against.

We also didn't give Clarke good enough service. Very few good crosses.

In another game where I expect us to dominate possession on Tuesday, Done shouldn't be starting. He'd be my last choice behind Chapman as well as Clarke and Lavery.
one of our best unbeaten runs and scoring goals for fun and you decide Done isn't good enough?? The amount of work he puts in and pressure on the defences is one of the pivotal reasons for others in the team getting the goals - mistake to leave him out and may undo a lot of the good form and goals we have been seeing. UTB's
 
We need an Omar Bogle in January

He's on fire. Getting further and further out of our reach with every passing week. Scored two yesterday, including a thundercracker. Really wish we signed him at the end of August when we got that money for DCL. Might have cost about 500k then, now he'll be £1.5m+.

Both he and John Akinde are having great seasons. 16 and 15 goals respectively, and neither are in good teams. Bogle's also had more shots than anybody, which is usually the sign of a good player.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/league-two/top-scorers

Would like us to keep tabs on Jon Obika at Swindon now he's fit again. Out of contract in the summer.

Then there's Evans but whether that'll be realistic I don't know.

But if we can get a quality striker when we're near the top and looking good for promotion, then we should do. We should look to make sure we go up and there's no bigger difference maker than a quality striker.
 
He's on fire. Getting further and further out of our reach with every passing week. Scored two yesterday, including a thundercracker. Really wish we signed him at the end of August when we got that money for DCL. Might have cost about 500k then, now he'll be £1.5m+.

Both he and John Akinde are having great seasons. 16 and 15 goals respectively, and neither are in good teams. Bogle's also had more shots than anybody, which is usually the sign of a good player.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/league-two/top-scorers

Would like us to keep tabs on Jon Obika at Swindon now he's fit again. Out of contract in the summer.

Then there's Evans but whether that'll be realistic I don't know.

But if we can get a quality striker when we're near the top and looking good for promotion, then we should do. We should look to make sure we go up and there's no bigger difference maker than a quality striker.
For me Bogle would make the difference. He's an ideal partner for just about everyone in our team. Pace, power and height.

I don't think anyone from the championship would take a chance on him so it's still in our hands for me. Think we might be able to get him for a million.
 



For me Bogle would make the difference. He's an ideal partner for just about everyone in our team.

Yep, he seems to be one of those who can play with any type of strike partner. Obika's the same. Good physically, good technically, can create and score.
 

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