Kieron Freeman - Hero or Villian?

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Scored a great goal yesterday, and arguably the most important as it was the equaliser. The Blades supporters go wild and he rushes to the crowd and apparently into the crowd to celebrate. I loved the passion shown. No one can criticise that. It's what we all feel and it's great to see the players' passion (especially after last season) but he then gets a booking. I don't know what the dictats are from the EFL on high but presumably refs are told to book players for going in the crowd? If so it may well mean that at some point in the season he will get suspended when the bookings including this one mount up? That could really prejudice the team. Should the club discipline him? Should the ref/EFL be more understanding about players celebrating with passion?
 

Yewsman said:
Scored a great goal yesterday, and arguably the most important as it was the equaliser. The Blades supporters go wild and he rushes to the crowd and apparently into the crowd to celebrate. I loved the passion shown. No one can criticise that. It's what we all feel and it's great to see the players' passion (especially after last season) but he then gets a booking. I don't know what the dictats are from the EFL on high but presumably refs are told to book players for going in the crowd? If so it may well mean that at some point in the season he will get suspended when the bookings including this one mount up? That could really prejudice the team. Should the club discipline him? Should the ref/EFL be more understanding about players celebrating with passion?
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The fa should get a grip and fuck the stupid rule off.
 
Passion supercedes logic sometimes. Like you say it shows how much he cares at least. He will run through walls for us and for Wilder.

Hopefully by the time any ban would kick in we will have signed decent back up or have enough depth elsewhere to allow Basham to cover for him.
 
Football is fucking stupid at times!

You can score a goal and celebrate with your own fans and get booked for it, yet when an opposition player scores and celebrates in front of the opposing fans giving finger jestures or something of a similar ilk they get fuck all. As I said, fucking stupid and illogical.
 
Disciplining him would only make it worse, and in my opinion it shouldn't be a rule. But while ever it is a rule, the player should know better, save all the aggro and just not do it.
 
A sensible rule designed to stop dangerous incitement of supporters and Cantona instances - ie, leaving the field of play - that has been hijacked by the 'letter of the law' brigade that run the refs and dont allow them to be human enough to use common sense.

In fairness to the refs, they can have a blinder of a game and gets marks knocked off and risk demotion for not booking somebody for ott celebration or making sure a free kick is within 1mm of where the foul took place
 
Yewsman said:
Scored a great goal yesterday, and arguably the most important as it was the equaliser. The Blades supporters go wild and he rushes to the crowd and apparently into the crowd to celebrate. I loved the passion shown. No one can criticise that. It's what we all feel and it's great to see the players' passion (especially after last season) but he then gets a booking. I don't know what the dictats are from the EFL on high but presumably refs are told to book players for going in the crowd? If so it may well mean that at some point in the season he will get suspended when the bookings including this one mount up? That could really prejudice the team. Should the club discipline him? Should the ref/EFL be more understanding about players celebrating with passion?
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If yer noticed the other three scorers stopped short of the fans when they scored
 
Foxy said:
Sanitise celebrations with the fans and we're worse off... You have to draw the line somewhere, but common sense should prevail from refs.
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Tricky one, because the one thing that we all want from referees is consistency. Handing 'common sense' over to them is just asking for different interpretations and that will eventually sting us. Can you imagine a rule stating:

"A player who removes his jersey after scoring a goal will be cautioned for unsporting behaviour, unless it was (i) a local derby, a derby being defined as a match between two teams whose home grounds are situated within ten miles of each other, (ii) a powerful shot from outside the area, (iii) an important, potentially result-changing goal in the final five minutes, or (iv) a tribute to a recently-deceased friend or relative, in which case no action should be taken".

Likewise, how would you define common sense when it comes to celebrating with the fans: A polite ruffle of the ballboy's hair? Sticking your head into the front row (a la Freeman on Sunday)? Leaping into row D and snogging anyone within touching distance? My view is that celebrating with your own fans ought to be OK, but goading the opposition fans is a no-no. Either way, the definitions would be open to interpretation.

I just can't see how the FA could apply common sense and make it consistent across matches.
 

I can't blame a player being that passionate he lets his celebration go over board - I would be pissed off if he get's disciplined by the club.
 
The solution might be to get the supporters to refrain from celebrating too much?
If we just politely clapped with the occasional nod in the direction of the scorer, they would be less inclined to interact with the supporters.
Maybe some of us could not celebrate at all and instead focus on knitting new half and half scarves for the opposition supporters or summat?
F******g ridiculous 'rule'
 
Go for it freeman, I for one am fed up of bland, don't give a fook overpaid players. Besides if he does get a ban bash will step in.
Wonder worker wilder has got all angles covered.
 
Not like the stand is 20 yards away is it ? Momentum frequently takes players into the stand anyway at that shithole.
 
The problem is that if you give players a bit of leeway, some idiot will take it too far and ruin it for everyone else.
 
GreasyChipBeattie said:
The solution might be to get the supporters to refrain from celebrating too much?
If we just politely clapped with the occasional nod in the direction of the scorer, they would be less inclined to interact with the supporters.
Maybe some of us could not celebrate at all and instead focus on knitting new half and half scarves for the opposition supporters or summat?
F******g ridiculous 'rule'
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A bit like the 2 United fans holding a coffee when Freeman scores...you can just see them on the TV clip after he scored...just looked at each other and hardly moved,while everyone else is going mental.
Can't blame Freeman,I'd have done the same...Football is over sanatised as it is.
 
Barney said:
Disciplining him would only make it worse, and in my opinion it shouldn't be a rule. But while ever it is a rule, the player should know better, save all the aggro and just not do it.
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See where your coming from Barney but sometimes passion overtakes common sense we don't want to destroy the commoradery which is now apparent between the players and fans.Wilder has built this platform and it's working great,we after accept what goes with such enthusiasm ,bookings !!.
It may come back to bite us on the arse but I think the positive s far out weigh the negatives.
We have had a hard time of it over the last few years we now are moving in the right direction ,let's enjoy it.You could say it's all about professionalism
but even pros have to let there hair down now and then.Passion I love it and we're all passionate blades arnt we ?.
 

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