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Cerberus Blade said:
Let me guess...

You've never been to University or had academic ability and think everyone who has is "privileged" and it makes you feel uncomfortable because basically you're thick?
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Ooohh. I'd like to see you say that to his face :o


But to be fair, my three years at Univ Nottm were some of the best of my life. But then my 25 years with Mrs Ken and the fact that we made Ken Jnr and Kenette Jnr are also the best :)
 



University in 2016, isn't a luxury or for the privileged, it's a necessity.

The days of having an A-Level and a few GCSE's are long, long gone.

The way the power-shift, (thru' business) is going, in twenty years time our closest ally may possibly be China.
That's if the ice-caps haven't melted and we're reduced to the size of Guernsey.
 
robbiez666 said:
What the club should be doing is encouraging as many students as possible to come and watch us.
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When I came to Sheffield as a student in October 71 I don't recall any incentives to watch United. By chance an existing Blade took me to a game and I've been going ever since. Incidentally in those days most arrived by train, one suitcase in hand and the only congestion caused was on buses from the station
 
JohnDenver said:
I was at Manchester airport in the week waiting at passport control. A plane had just landed from the Far East and was absolutely packed with students. The universities all had reps in arrivals to shepherd them for onward transport.

It's something we're good at, and without it Sheffield in particular would be an immeasurably worse place. Our leaders have been guilty of inward and backward looking habits, and the universities and the people they bring here are our best connection to the world and the future. The development at the bottom of Bramall Lane is that fact writ large.

But moreover, it can't just be me who sees these kids arrive from the other side of the world and admire their bravery and ambition? What were you lot doing at 18 years old?
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The local university to me (Brock) ships in huge numbers of foreign (principally Oriental) students. I was chatting to one of the academics down there who, like me, is a chemist. Universities love to bring in foreign students on taught courses as it's relatively cheap for them plus they can charge substantial fees. In addition it's cheaper to build a lecture theatre that holds say 300 people than to build, for example, a new chemistry teaching laboratory for 50. So science and engineering suffers. As she said to me (and i've been saying the same since I was at University) all we are doing is educating the world, which may sound good to some in their ivory towers but could be seriously damaging to our economic future.
 
LYDON said:
University in 2016, isn't a luxury or for the privileged, it's a necessity.

The days of having an A-Level and a few GCSE's are long, long gone.

The way the power-shift, (thru' business) is going, in twenty years time our closest ally may possibly be China.
That's if the ice-caps haven't melted and we're reduced to the size of Guernsey.
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That's because government policy changed to start shoving as many as possible through University, whether they should be there or not. When I was an undergraduate twenty-odd years ago there were plenty of clever, able people there, but there were a lot that shouldn't have been anywhere near the place.
 
Kenilworth said:
Ooohh. I'd like to see you say that to his face :eek:


But to be fair, my three years at Univ Nottm were some of the best of my life. But then my 25 years with Mrs Ken and the fact that we made Ken Jnr and Kenette Jnr are also the best :)
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Really? So you can tell by what I write whether I'd be able to say this to someone's face eh? I wouldn't worry about me pal. But thanks for the concern.

Sorry but I can't stand such stupid comments about students. Many of us have been students at some point in our life and many of us will be proud parents of children who go on to further education.

But anyone from Sheffield ought to thank their lucky stars that this city attracts students. Because without them we would have nothing! This city is WAY behind most other cities of its kind because of the parochial "village" attitude that has set us back decades. I come on here to have a chat about football not to read discriminatory comments about educated young people who are trying to better themselves and bring money to our deprived city.
 
Kenilworth said:
Be great to have a really decent china town in Sheff. Especially if they have some decent dim sum
Candy Town is a nice treat though :). Not posh but allus enjoy the snap there
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A bit like Manchester or Liverpool you mean. Yes I agree - and why don't we?

(Agree with you about Candytown" btw. Enjoy going there).
 
There's the usual criticism of Sheffield's lack of cosmopolitan feel, coupled with a criticism of bringing too many students in to the city.

If it isn't a joke then it's fucking cringe worthy in itself.

I'm delighted so many students choose Sheffield to be their home for a few years.


UTB
 
I have a confession.

I came to Sheffield in 1982 as an 18 year old, student doing business studies at the Poly. I'd been to games many times in the midlands,where I hailed from but never felt an allegiance to anyone.

I went to a United game in my first week, it felt right - they were the nitty gritty city team, the pigs were fashionable pretty boys. From the second I went into the stadium (on my own) and stood on the kop, I was totally hooked. I have been going now for 34 years, held a season ticket for most of them, been all over watching United including all the Wembley trips, got 2 lads who are passionate unitedites.
Whilst at Poly I met and was lectured in Economics by the late and great Dave Wicketts. There we were, a Londoner and a midlander who spent as much time as possible discussing the Blades and as little time as possible talking about economics. Brilliant days then, and brilliant days now.

I am living proof that some of those pesky students hang around, and develop a love for united. Be patient when little Tarquin turns up with his mum and dad and holds you up for a few minutes. He may sit next to you for the next 50 years at BL.
 



west_yorks_blade said:
I have a confession.

I came to Sheffield in 1982 as an 18 year old, student doing business studies at the Poly. I'd been to games many times in the midlands,where I hailed from but never felt an allegiance to anyone.

I went to a United game in my first week, it felt right - they were the nitty gritty city team, the pigs were fashionable pretty boys. From the second I went into the stadium (on my own) and stood on the kop, I was totally hooked. I have been going now for 34 years, held a season ticket for most of them, been all over watching United including all the Wembley trips, got 2 lads who are passionate unitedites.
Whilst at Poly I met and was lectured in Economics by the late and great Dave Wicketts. There we were, a Londoner and a midlander who spent as much time as possible discussing the Blades and as little time as possible talking about economics. Brilliant days then, and brilliant days now.

I am living proof that some of those pesky students hang around, and develop a love for united. Be patient when little Tarquin turns up with his mum and dad and holds you up for a few minutes. He may sit next to you for the next 50 years at BL.
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And I had you down as 15. :)
 
Cerberus Blade said:
Really? So you can tell by what I write whether I'd be able to say this to someone's face eh? I wouldn't worry about me pal. But thanks for the concern.

Sorry but I can't stand such stupid comments about students. Many of us have been students at some point in our life and many of us will be proud parents of children who go on to further education.

But anyone from Sheffield ought to thank their lucky stars that this city attracts students. Because without them we would have nothing! This city is WAY behind most other cities of its kind because of the parochial "village" attitude that has set us back decades. I come on here to have a chat about football not to read discriminatory comments about educated young people who are trying to better themselves and bring money to our deprived city.
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I won't be thanking "my lucky stars"
The city is way behind others cities because of decades of councils without any vision pure and simple.
I don't dispute that students contribute to the Sheffield economy. But the student population in Sheffield is far to big now.
All we build now is student accommodation.
Large areas of Sheffield taken over by houses converted into student bedsits.
Most of these properties become untidy with little money spent on maintenance.

For your information I never went to University so I do apologise if this means I shouldn't reply to your post or that my opinion shouldn't count.
 
west_yorks_blade said:
I have a confession.

I came to Sheffield in 1982 as an 18 year old, student doing business studies at the Poly. I'd been to games many times in the midlands,where I hailed from but never felt an allegiance to anyone.

I went to a United game in my first week, it felt right - they were the nitty gritty city team, the pigs were fashionable pretty boys. From the second I went into the stadium (on my own) and stood on the kop, I was totally hooked. I have been going now for 34 years, held a season ticket for most of them, been all over watching United including all the Wembley trips, got 2 lads who are passionate unitedites.
Whilst at Poly I met and was lectured in Economics by the late and great Dave Wicketts. There we were, a Londoner and a midlander who spent as much time as possible discussing the Blades and as little time as possible talking about economics. Brilliant days then, and brilliant days now.

I am living proof that some of those pesky students hang around, and develop a love for united. Be patient when little Tarquin turns up with his mum and dad and holds you up for a few minutes. He may sit next to you for the next 50 years at BL.
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I met Dave Wickett many years ago. It was a function organised for people seeking business help and Dave was one of the speakers advising new businesses.

Lovely guy, very straightforward, and as sound as the proverbial pound. Could see through BS and nonsense without a great deal of trouble, which of course warmed me to him. A great loss.
 
Broomhall Blade said:
I won't be thanking "my lucky stars"
The city is way behind others cities because of decades of councils without any vision pure and simple.
I don't dispute that students contribute to the Sheffield economy. But the student population in Sheffield is far to big now.
All we build now is student accommodation.
Large areas of Sheffield taken over by houses converted into student bedsits.
Most of these properties become untidy with little money spent on maintenance.

For your information I never went to University so I do apologise if this means I shouldn't reply to your post or that my opinion shouldn't count.
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The Universities / Student housing don't displace other businesses from relocating to the city. A backward council is a backward council - it's a completely different subject.

And the number of students hasn't actually increased that much - what's happening is that they're building lots of student flats on old wasteland - freeing up student housing in the suburbs to be used by families. It's a win all round.


UTB
 
alcoblade said:
The Universities / Student housing don't displace other businesses from relocating to the city. A backward council is a backward council - it's a completely different subject.

And the number of students hasn't actually increased that much - what's happening is that they're building lots of student flats on old wasteland - freeing up student housing in the suburbs to be used by families. It's a win all round.


UTB
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I was replying to the post that was making out Sheffield was behind other cities and would be further behind if it wasn't for students. My point being if we had a forward thinking council we wouldn't have to rely on Students so much.

Don't have any figures but I wouldn't be surprised if the student population hasn't doubled since the 90's.

I haven't seen any houses turned back into family houses certainly in the area I am familiar with. Infact just the opposite actually.
 
Broomhall Blade said:
I was replying to the post that was making out Sheffield was behind other cities and would be further behind if it wasn't for students. My point being if we had a forward thinking council we wouldn't have to rely on Students so much.

Don't have any figures but I wouldn't be surprised if the student population hasn't doubled since the 90's.

I haven't seen any houses turned back into family houses certainly in the area I am familiar with. Infact just the opposite actually.
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The population in in the late 50's now, and was in the early 50's a few dacade's ago.

The explosion in building of student accommodation is just underway. It can only be that it will eventually lead to freeing up of family homes, because the population isn't growing fast enough to sustain the building.

Again, however far behind the city is, however much of that is due to the council - these points are separate, as you concede. This is the council we have. We would be much further behind without the Universities, and the industries, knowledge and population that they attract.


UTB
 
ReeceofBDTBL said:
We constantly have one of the highest rates of students staying here to live after university, think it's wonderful that so many people think so much of our humble and unique city that they choose to settle down here..
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The city of lost ambitions.....................a bit like our club?

HH
 
Cerberus Blade said:
Really? So you can tell by what I write whether I'd be able to say this to someone's face eh? I wouldn't worry about me pal. But thanks for the concern.

Sorry but I can't stand such stupid comments about students. Many of us have been students at some point in our life and many of us will be proud parents of children who go on to further education.

But anyone from Sheffield ought to thank their lucky stars that this city attracts students. Because without them we would have nothing! This city is WAY behind most other cities of its kind because of the parochial "village" attitude that has set us back decades. I come on here to have a chat about football not to read discriminatory comments about educated young people who are trying to better themselves and bring money to our deprived city.
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Ooohhh. You're like a dog with 5 bones ;)
 
I don't know wether I can have a say in the matter I only went to shirecliffe ,embrace the youth of this country and hope they make us a greater city in the future ,dirty buggers mind
 
alcoblade said:
The population in in the late 50's now, and was in the early 50's a few dacade's ago.

The explosion in building of student accommodation is just underway. It can only be that it will eventually lead to freeing up of family homes, because the population isn't growing fast enough to sustain the building.

Again, however far behind the city is, however much of that is due to the council - these points are separate, as you concede. This is the council we have. We would be much further behind without the Universities, and the industries, knowledge and population that they attract.


UTB
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Sorry but the building and converting of other buildings hasn't just got underway it's been going on for years.
I have seen none of the big family house in the area I am familiar with go back to being family house just the opposite infact.
 
west_yorks_blade said:
I have a confession.

I came to Sheffield in 1982 as an 18 year old, student doing business studies at the Poly. I'd been to games many times in the midlands,where I hailed from but never felt an allegiance to anyone.

I went to a United game in my first week, it felt right - they were the nitty gritty city team, the pigs were fashionable pretty boys. From the second I went into the stadium (on my own) and stood on the kop, I was totally hooked. I have been going now for 34 years, held a season ticket for most of them, been all over watching United including all the Wembley trips, got 2 lads who are passionate unitedites.
Whilst at Poly I met and was lectured in Economics by the late and great Dave Wicketts. There we were, a Londoner and a midlander who spent as much time as possible discussing the Blades and as little time as possible talking about economics. Brilliant days then, and brilliant days now.

I am living proof that some of those pesky students hang around, and develop a love for united. Be patient when little Tarquin turns up with his mum and dad and holds you up for a few minutes. He may sit next to you for the next 50 years at BL.
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Great story :)
 



Broomhall Blade said:
I won't be thanking "my lucky stars"
The city is way behind others cities because of decades of councils without any vision pure and simple.
I don't dispute that students contribute to the Sheffield economy. But the student population in Sheffield is far to big now.
All we build now is student accommodation.
Large areas of Sheffield taken over by houses converted into student bedsits.
Most of these properties become untidy with little money spent on maintenance.

For your information I never went to University so I do apologise if this means I shouldn't reply to your post or that my opinion shouldn't count.
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That's not quite the case, I did a spell as parent governor at one of the primary schools around Hunters Bar and they along with other schools in and around that area have a massive problem in that as the students have moved away from terrace houses into purpose built city centre accommodation, the demand for places at these schools has rocketed as the terrace houses have been reclaimed by families.
 
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