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Being brutally honest...United looked poor up front all game. We shouldn't hide away from that fact. We had very little attacking threat. Done runs around a lot and "stretches the game" as they say - but to what effect? Sharp was ineffectual too, with the exception of converting the penalty. The facts are that our best attacker was full back Kieron Freeman. I'm sorry, that's just not good enough and I'd rather say it now and hope someone else notices it than wait until we've missed out on several more points.

Wilder needs to get some zip and urgency in that attack and he needs someone up front who will stick it away regularly. I fear that he will be tempted to leave things as they are for now, because we won, with Done and Sharp leading the attack. I think this is wrong and the sooner he changes it the better. Clarke is better than either of them and we need some pace alongside him - hopefully young Lavery may provide it?
 



Being brutally honest...United looked poor up front all game. We shouldn't hide away from that fact. We had very little attacking threat. Done runs around a lot and "stretches the game" as they say - but to what effect? Sharp was ineffectual too, with the exception of converting the penalty. The facts are that our best attacker was full back Kieron Freeman. I'm sorry, that's just not good enough and I'd rather say it now and hope someone else notices it than wait until we've missed out on several more points.

Wilder needs to get some zip and urgency in that attack and he needs someone up front who will stick it away regularly. I fear that he will be tempted to leave things as they are for now, because we won, with Done and Sharp leading the attack. I think this is wrong and the sooner he changes it the better. Clarke is better than either of them and we need some pace alongside him - hopefully young Lavery may provide it?

Thought the same, it was a bit frustrating for Billy and Done first half...but, felt we got stronger up front as the game went on...Billy could-a/should-a had a couple and whisper it to some on here, bringing Clarke on helped 'up' the pressure in their half when They were starting to build a bit themselves...
 
Being brutally honest...United looked poor up front all game. We shouldn't hide away from that fact. We had very little attacking threat. Done runs around a lot and "stretches the game" as they say - but to what effect? Sharp was ineffectual too, with the exception of converting the penalty. The facts are that our best attacker was full back Kieron Freeman. I'm sorry, that's just not good enough and I'd rather say it now and hope someone else notices it than wait until we've missed out on several more points.

Wilder needs to get some zip and urgency in that attack and he needs someone up front who will stick it away regularly. I fear that he will be tempted to leave things as they are for now, because we won, with Done and Sharp leading the attack. I think this is wrong and the sooner he changes it the better. Clarke is better than either of them and we need some pace alongside him - hopefully young Lavery may provide it?

While I admit that our attack wasn't perfect, I feel your being a tad harsh, specifically with Sharp; not only did he score the penalty, but it was a good assist for the first goal as well.

I agree that we require a bit more pace up top, as I'm not really a Matt Done fan. Maybe Lavery is the missing link?
 
Sharp is not an aerial threat nor is he quick , but often has the knack of putting away chances - however this season he is missing loads - missed a few more yesterday - will the captain be dropped ?
We'll soon find out whether Lavery was bought for LW or pace up front.
 
we had 15 attempts , away from home at a ground where we didnt muster a shot last season
you dont score on every attack
and it took Englands multi million pound attack 89 minutes to score 1

yes wed love hat tricks every week from our front men , but its a new squad still building its understanding
lets show some fucking patience
 
Being brutally honest...United looked poor up front all game. We shouldn't hide away from that fact. We had very little attacking threat. Done runs around a lot and "stretches the game" as they say - but to what effect? Sharp was ineffectual too, with the exception of converting the penalty. The facts are that our best attacker was full back Kieron Freeman. I'm sorry, that's just not good enough and I'd rather say it now and hope someone else notices it than wait until we've missed out on several more points.

Wilder needs to get some zip and urgency in that attack and he needs someone up front who will stick it away regularly. I fear that he will be tempted to leave things as they are for now, because we won, with Done and Sharp leading the attack. I think this is wrong and the sooner he changes it the better. Clarke is better than either of them and we need some pace alongside him - hopefully young Lavery may provide it?
I think you are being harsh on Sharp. His hold up play and playing others in was goo and he got into the positions to score.

As for Done. Unfortunately he is a reactive player rather then proactive .His movement is poor and as such gives little availability to the midfield when they are looking to put balls through .Quite often yesterday Done was static in and around the penalty area and which meant their defence had an easy time marking him.

As for Clarke being better than either of them ? I have seen no evidence so far this season that this is the case. All because he tries to head a ball doesn't mean he is a better player. If you noticed yesterday his first touch was not the best and when he heads the ball he is unable to direct it towards a player. His movement is good and more than likely when he gets fir and has more games he will get better.

For me the first attacking name on the team sheet is Sharp then it is a case of who plays with him
 
Seen no evidence at all in any of the game played that Clarke should be in the team.

However, we are going to need all our strikers to get out of this league so I promise to lay off Clarke if people leave sharp alone. It's getting a tad pathetic. First season as a captain, slow start by him and the team yet he's got 3 goals.
 
Sharp scored a penalty, laid on a goal, drew a good save from the keeper, and had an effort blocked by a defender as the keeper dived the wrong way.

Sharp has scored 24 goals in 50 games since his return.

He really is the least of our problems.
 
If Sharp and Done are going to be used to chase balls down the channels as they were yesterday, they are always going to be miles apart. It can make it look as if they have very little understanding. Really it's just the nature of the tactics I think.
 
Seen no evidence at all in any of the game played that Clarke should be in the team.

However, we are going to need all our strikers to get out of this league so I promise to lay off Clarke if people leave sharp alone. It's getting a tad pathetic. First season as a captain, slow start by him and the team yet he's got 3 goals.
It's no more pathetic than people lambasting Clarke for the DEFENDERS whacking the ball up to him. The strikers aren't the problem, the supply and goals from midfield are the problem but hopefully that starts to get rectified now with better attacking full backs and a rejuvenated Coutts.
 
Being brutally honest...United looked poor up front all game. We shouldn't hide away from that fact. We had very little attacking threat. Done runs around a lot and "stretches the game" as they say - but to what effect? Sharp was ineffectual too, with the exception of converting the penalty. The facts are that our best attacker was full back Kieron Freeman. I'm sorry, that's just not good enough and I'd rather say it now and hope someone else notices it than wait until we've missed out on several more points.

Wilder needs to get some zip and urgency in that attack and he needs someone up front who will stick it away regularly. I fear that he will be tempted to leave things as they are for now, because we won, with Done and Sharp leading the attack. I think this is wrong and the sooner he changes it the better. Clarke is better than either of them and we need some pace alongside him - hopefully young Lavery may provide it?

There is no evidence whatsoever this season that Clark is better than Sharp.
 
Ultimately it took a ridiculous balls up by them to give us a game which we should have already won.
 



It's no more pathetic than people lambasting Clarke for the DEFENDERS whacking the ball up to him. The strikers aren't the problem, the supply and goals from midfield are the problem but hopefully that starts to get rectified now with better attacking full backs and a rejuvenated Coutts.

This the same coutts that could have slipped in Clarke on about 80 minutes, instead he picked out the billboard. Our final ball on the last 3rd was the biggest issue, not far behind is that Done doesn't make natural runs as a striker. He is very reactive instead of instinctive.

i don't want to sound too harsh because they are all learning about each other, not only the new players but also the knee playing in new positions. I don't think there is a squad member who won't contribute at some point.
 
Sharp is not an aerial threat nor is he quick , but often has the knack of putting away chances - however this season he is missing loads - missed a few more yesterday - will the captain be dropped ?
We'll soon find out whether Lavery was bought for LW or pace up front.
Missing Loads ? Clarke missed more against Crewe than all the chances the team has had this season up to yesterday

Why would you drop the leading goalscorer this season? Why wouldn't you drop Done ?
 
Ultimately it took a ridiculous balls up by them to give us a game which we should have already won.
Had he not done so it would have probably fallen to one of our players in the box. Defenders make mistakes under pressure and we were putting them under pressure.

The way we got the goal was fortunate but we deserved the win.
 
He had his problems under Robson and Blackwell the first time around, but at this point with Sharp he deserves the Keith Edwards treatment: just pick him every week and let him get on with it. He'll get the goals. Yes, there'll be a 4 or 5 game barren spell, but then you'll get the 6 or 7 game scoring spell. Happened twice last year.

Although given that Sharp has never scored more than once in a game since he re-signed I think you can make a case for substituting him after he scores!
 
we had 15 attempts , away from home at a ground where we didnt muster a shot last season
you dont score on every attack
and it took Englands multi million pound attack 89 minutes to score 1

yes wed love hat tricks every week from our front men , but its a new squad still building its understanding
lets show some fucking patience

you're entitled to your opinion. But why the abuse?
 
There seems to be a tendency to lump the ball still particularly when Clarke is playing they still need to watch out for that. As for done , although not a particular fan , everyone seems to have missed he won the header across to Sharpe for his pass back into the centre for the equaliser. Agree that it's the final ball that is lacking but that'swhat you get more of in division 3. If they could do it more often they'd be playing higher up the leagues
 
Had he not done so it would have probably fallen to one of our players in the box. Defenders make mistakes under pressure and we were putting them under pressure.

The way we got the goal was fortunate but we deserved the win.

No doubt we deserved the win, but I think we could and should have already been out of sight had we took our chances and played more intelligent passes.
 
While I admit that our attack wasn't perfect, I feel your being a tad harsh, specifically with Sharp; not only did he score the penalty, but it was a good assist for the first goal as well.

I agree that we require a bit more pace up top, as I'm not really a Matt Done fan. Maybe Lavery is the missing link?

Just hope we get a result at Wimbledon . Just could not put up with the bipolar negative shite .

Matt Done - runs around but ain't sorry to say good enough . Missing piece in the jigsaw puzzle. Fella from S6 who runs around with a intelligent football brain. That's why Wilder has signed him.

Sharp worked very hard off the ball , which you do not always appreciate unless you are there ,and to be fair .imo any criticism is a little unjust .
 
Sharp is not an aerial threat nor is he quick , but often has the knack of putting away chances - however this season he is missing loads - missed a few more yesterday - will the captain be dropped ?
We'll soon find out whether Lavery was bought for LW or pace up front.
Agreed, but at least Sharp's there to miss them, and currently he's stats are still 3 goals in 6 league games. Nobody else has scored more than one goal.

Our problem is that Sharp is our only player who regularly seems to get into the right scoring positions. He might be wasteful but IMO, I think we'd look pretty sick without him as it stands just like we would have last season. If we get Clarke fully fit and when Lavery is available it might shake things up, but I'd definitely have Sharp in the team.

As for Done, I like his work rate but he's backup at best for me. A huge amount of effort but even when he is up from he's rarely a threat.
 
One of our issues is we don't have one player who can drop a shoulder and beat a man. We have to work so, so hard to create a chance.
I think Chapman and Brooks do have the capability to do this, I like both of them for their no fear approach. Hoping Lavery might have this also.
 



Let's not also forget that it was our midfield a first time together and the first time playing 3-5-2. For all the practice you do in training it's matches where you really build an understanding, there were times our strikers made runs the midfield didn't spot and times midfield played balls expecting our strikers to make runs. That understanding and final ball will only come as we play the formation more. It was a very pleasing performance for a first time out.

Edit: and in defence of Done our high pressing caused Gilingham problems, Done is a key part of that.
 

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