Brayfords form dip

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Seriously barney....
Honestly that is just a shocking response, never discourage people from creating new threads/ topics.
Sorry if that's how it came across. Never want to discourage new topics and not one to nitpick but the number of threads after the match was just silly and it unfortunately makes for hard reading trying to keep up with it all. Courtesy of Linz though, should be solved from Tuesday with the introduction of just the one thread for all match reaction to go in.
 



About 4 times in the second half yesterday a diagonal long ball sailed over him to their forward who was in 30 yards of space, meaning if they beast brayford, they were in on goal. He looks show, disinterested and even his beard looks shit now.
 
About 4 times in the second half yesterday a diagonal long ball sailed over him to their forward who was in 30 yards of space, meaning if they beast brayford, they were in on goal. He looks show, disinterested and even his beard looks shit now.

He looks ill. Once you we have a new keeper can you move onto hounding Brayford because he really is wank. I am no great fan of Freeman but he should be playing until Brayford comes off his hunger strike.
 
That's what we needed, the eighteenth thread on the game today.

Neither the Thread title nor the OP mention yesterdays game, rather it is a discussion about Brayford's form, which by it's nature must include more than one game.

If I am allowed to be pedantic?

(and having just been advised by SwissBlade about multiple threads :))
 
My "isn't his usual self" was along those lines :)
There is definitely something affecting his attitude towards playing at the moment, he doesn't look part of the group or his head is in the wrong place - maybe personal problems and needs to sit out until he's really up for it?
 
So if Brayford's strongest point was never defending, and he was more of a "bombing on" full-back, what would be the best thing the Club could do to get him back to form?
Would it be narrowing the pitch to a virtual batting crease?
 
He's off Twitter now and one of his last messages was 'You can't always get what you want', a bit cryptic.
 
When we were dead an buried he galvanised a team, formed a bridge between stands and pitch and gave his heart and soul to drag us out of this shit and to Wembley. He then walked away from Premiership level wages to sign for us on half his salary.

He's undoubtedly the best full back in the league but clearly his swagger is missing. I get the impression that's not entirely football related either.

For me, he's earned some grace. Can't go on forever but for now we should repay him with a bit of faith because hes proven what he's capable of. If he needs a lift then echo his name from the rafters. A fully firing Brayford is well worth waiting for.
 
There is definitely something affecting his attitude towards playing at the moment, he doesn't look part of the group or his head is in the wrong place - maybe personal problems and needs to sit out until he's really up for it?

When we equalised Wilder had him by the arm and saying something to him whilst everyone else celebrated.
 
Lol. We don't? Haven't you noticed in the zeal to be rid of Brayford, Freeman has been elevated from "wank" "one of the problem players" " a cunt" and "a lazy idle bastard" to "good enough" or laughably " consistently one of our best players".

If Brayford goes we need a decent full back, not dross like Freeman or slotting square boots Basham in because he's a "utility player" sadly not a particularly good one.
noticed Freeman warming up, and wondered if he was coming on. Other than that half a season on loan Brayford's not really cut it. Had his injuries but doesn't seem lacking fitness now, and is definitely putting the effort in - he was run so ragged trying to mark one of their strikers he almost fell over himself at one point. Confidence issue?
 
When we were dead an buried he galvanised a team, formed a bridge between stands and pitch and gave his heart and soul to drag us out of this shit and to Wembley. He then walked away from Premiership level wages to sign for us on half his salary.

He's undoubtedly the best full back in the league but clearly his swagger is missing. I get the impression that's not entirely football related either.

For me, he's earned some grace. Can't go on forever but for now we should repay him with a bit of faith because hes proven what he's capable of. If he needs a lift then echo his name from the rafters. A fully firing Brayford is well worth waiting for.

Just saying he's the best full back in the league doesn't make it true. That was the case in 2014 but not now. Rico Henry and Chris Solly are two who immediately come to mind as being better than him.
 



noticed Freeman warming up, and wondered if he was coming on. Other than that half a season on loan Brayford's not really cut it. Had his injuries bit doesn't seem lacking fitness now, and is definitely putting the effort in - he was run so ragged trying to mark one of their strikers he almost fell over himself at one point. Confidence issue?

Looks like it. No swagger. Interesting what people think they see though, someone suggested he wasn't tackling but he went into three hefty challenges second half. Rochdale also left a man out wide when they attacked down the other side giving him a difficult time and leaving gaps. Even taking that into account he was poor.
 
It does make you wonder if Cloughies been in touch and told Brayford that Burton want him but can afford anywhere near 1 million valuation.

So the plan is for Brayford to hit poor form then we'll accept a low bid of £300K from Burton.
 
It does make you wonder if Cloughies been in touch and told Brayford that Burton want him but can afford anywhere near 1 million valuation.

So the plan is for Brayford to hit poor form then we'll accept a low bid of £300K from Burton.

Don't think so. I had a really good view of that incident I mentioned where he nearly fell over, and could see it on his face as well - he's playing for his place. He may get dropped and even end up at Burton though as you say.
 
It does make you wonder if Cloughies been in touch and told Brayford that Burton want him but can afford anywhere near 1 million valuation.

So the plan is for Brayford to hit poor form then we'll accept a low bid of £300K from Burton.


I think he's got to much professional pride to even consider doing that.
 
Who is the threat to his position? He's not bombing forward. He does work well with Coutts which is why he doesn't need to bomb forward. I stand by my opinion that he has lost form and allows the man inside too often.

#178Snowman, Jan 27, 2016

Above is a post from Jan 2016. There are numerous posts from others before his second bad injury saying he had "lost it". This is a very long "slump" or "dip".

Maybe he is suffering from depression. I think I may be pissed off if I had joined a company "on the up" having been poached by a manager I respected, only to have a couple of bad illnesses, my manager leave to be replaced by a clown who nobody except his favourites respected and then another manager come in to replace him. All this set against the background of sackings and redundancies. Just a thought.
 
When we were dead an buried he galvanised a team, formed a bridge between stands and pitch and gave his heart and soul to drag us out of this shit and to Wembley. He then walked away from Premiership level wages to sign for us on half his salary.

He's undoubtedly the best full back in the league but clearly his swagger is missing. I get the impression that's not entirely football related either.

For me, he's earned some grace. Can't go on forever but for now we should repay him with a bit of faith because hes proven what he's capable of. If he needs a lift then echo his name from the rafters. A fully firing Brayford is well worth waiting for.

He's a player that needs to be loved. His form has dipped withput doubt but I don't believe for a second that he is no longer capable of playing well at L1 level.
 
That's why he came because the fans loved him. Since he came back from injury all people have done is criticise him. We don't sing his song but then again we don't sing about any one unless we score. Perhaps if we sang he may feel wanted like in the beginning and give him that lift he needs
 
Who is the threat to his position? He's not bombing forward. He does work well with Coutts which is why he doesn't need to bomb forward. I stand by my opinion that he has lost form and allows the man inside too often.

#178Snowman, Jan 27, 2016

Above is a post from Jan 2016. There are numerous posts from others before his second bad injury saying he had "lost it". This is a very long "slump" or "dip".

Maybe he is suffering from depression. I think I may be pissed off if I had joined a company "on the up" having been poached by a manager I respected, only to have a couple of bad illnesses, my manager leave to be replaced by a clown who nobody except his favourites respected and then another manager come in to replace him. All this set against the background of sackings and redundancies. Just a thought.

I could understand him being somewhat demoralised, but actual depression, surely not - at least not due to football reasons.
 
So if Brayford's strongest point was never defending, and he was more of a "bombing on" full-back, what would be the best thing the Club could do to get him back to form?
Would it be narrowing the pitch to a virtual batting crease?


Are we saying he looks disinterested, not committed ??

Same guy almost got his head caved in last week at Bolton clearing the ball, I agree he's not looked as good as he ever did in his loan spell, but then we don't have that team that he played with do we, great players feature in great teams, they can't do it on thier own especially when the balls being launched every chance we get...

What happened to the wide play I saw at Bolton in the first twenty mins, he looked ok then..

Rodders I've quoted you just for the pitch comment, you're bang on the money there, I see him being sold.. He's wasted in this set up..
 
I missed his loan spell as I was out of the country, so I haven't seen all his amazing displays that you lot did in that time.

I was sceptical when we bought him that spending that sort of money on a right back was a good idea, seen nothing since to prove me wrong... Not even close
 
I hate to say this but to me it's looking increasingly like he's a spent force and it's been apparent for quite some time.

I don't know if it's the psychological effects of previous injuries but he just looks far too hesitant to put a foot in when he's up against an attacker. He holds off and holds off until they're inside the box and there's a real threat of conceding as a result. I think the Brayford of 2014 is long gone sadly.
 
I hate to say this but to me it's looking increasingly like he's a spent force and it's been apparent for quite some time.

I don't know if it's the psychological effects of previous injuries but he just looks far too hesitant to put a foot in when he's up against an attacker. He holds off and holds off until they're inside the box and there's a real threat of conceding as a result. I think the Brayford of 2014 is long gone sadly.

He strikes me as a player who is trying incredibly hard but just can't do it anymore. I think there may well be both physical and psychological issues.
 
noticed Freeman warming up, and wondered if he was coming on. Other than that half a season on loan Brayford's not really cut it. Had his injuries but doesn't seem lacking fitness now, and is definitely putting the effort in - he was run so ragged trying to mark one of their strikers he almost fell over himself at one point. Confidence issue?

I did wonder, seeing Freeman named as a sub, if the plan was to bring Brayford off just before the end (if we were winning, that is) to allow him to give a wave to "say his farewells"? (Bearing in mind the Wigan/Morsy rumours & the absenting himself from twatter.)

God knows what the problem is? - Head elsewhere; already envisaging himself playing for another (higher level?) side? Confidence totally shot, with no Cloughy-mentor there to bring it back again? Injuries totally done for him?

He's a pale shadow of a pale shadow nowadays.
 



Was it just me or did it seem Brayford was just going through the motions on sat and didn't seem to want to apply himself, there was a point on sat in 2nd half where we lost the ball on the right and instead of busting a gut, like you would expect a full back to do to get back into position to pressure the ball and try and win it back, he just jogged back.

IMO play Bash at rb and bring in another cm alongside fleck
 

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