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I honestly don't understand the loathing for McCabe.
Look at other clubs owners, we could do a lot worse.
Granted, there are better backers out there but I really thinks he cares. I know for a fact I'm in the minority.
 
From the pig end said:
I honestly don't understand the loathing for McCabe.
Look at other clubs owners, we could do a lot worse.
Granted, there are better backers out there but I really thinks he cares. I know for a fact I'm in the minority.
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He definitely cares.

He's just a terrible chairman.

Why do people loath him? Look at the league table.
 
From the pig end said:
I honestly don't understand the loathing for McCabe.
Look at other clubs owners, we could do a lot worse.
Granted, there are better backers out there but I really thinks he cares. I know for a fact I'm in the minority.
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We could be have Blackpool's chairman and be worse off, or the chairman from any of the other 90 and be better off.


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From the pig end said:
I honestly don't understand the loathing for McCabe.
Look at other clubs owners, we could do a lot worse.
Granted, there are better backers out there but I really thinks he cares. I know for a fact I'm in the minority.
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If only we had someone like at Villa or Newcastle or Charlton or Watford or ...
 
Interesting that they didnt use the backdrop with John Holland etc on, wonder if they have fucked off with Adkins? lining up a deal for Ched are we? ;)
 
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mattbianco1 said:
Why is the club badge behind in White & Gold? Is that some sort of branding related to the coming season/shirts etc.?
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Yes, its the 128th Anniversay Badge

We are playing in Gold and White next season ................

and it is only for 1 year, so dont pissin moan ........................... :rolleyes:
 
From the pig end said:
I honestly don't understand the loathing for McCabe.
Look at other clubs owners, we could do a lot worse..
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I don't loathe him but your statement is really, really wide of the mark for me. How could he be worse? We are probably the most under performing team in all 4 divisions. You could say Mike Ashley, but he has overseen far better returns and success than we have.

You could say the Chairwoman of Southampton when they sold pretty much everyone they had, but look where they ended up. You could say Leeds, but they are in a far better place than we are. Charlton? Still been more successful in recent years than us. Villa are the only contenders who I would say are on a McCabe type trajectory, but still way ahead of us.
 
McCabe saying we had a bigger wage bill than Wigan last year, apparently??
 
Alfreton14Blade said:
McCabe saying we had a bigger wage bill than Wigan last year, apparently??
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He would because he looks great on the back of it. Look at me backing the shit manager we just sacked, and the shit one before that etc etc etc.

It's just bollocks he spouts day after day. He could tell me the sun was coming up and I would have to go and check.
 
Bladesway said:
I don't loathe him but your statement is really, really wide of the mark for me. How could he be worse? We are probably the most under performing team in all 4 divisions. You could say Mike Ashley, but he has overseen far better returns and success than we have.

You could say the Chairwoman of Southampton when they sold pretty much everyone they had, but look where they ended up. You could say Leeds, but they are in a far better place than we are. Charlton? Still been more successful in recent years than us. Villa are the only contenders who I would say are on a McCabe type trajectory, but still way ahead of us.
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Forgive me but as a Saints fan I have to take umbrage with that comment about Southamptons owner. Katarina Liebherr (and her late father before her) is one of the best owners in the country, her family bought us at the bottom of L1, wiped out our debts and wrote them off, backed us big time in the lower leagues and has poured tens of millions into our club over the years on the academy and club infrastructure to try and get us to the top table of PL football. The strategy of selling many of our players was actually consistent with our growth strategy, we made an obscene amount of money from those players and have the infrastructure in place to replace them with better players for half the money and we continued to climb the table as a result. We are one of the only clubs making a net profit as we improve year on year.

I say this not to gloat but because I know what both a well run club and a badly run club looks like having gone experienced both extremes in the last 10 years, Administration in L1 to Europe and top 8 in the PL. I completely agree with your comments regarding McCabe and consider you a badly run club, you are among the most under-performing teams and I think it's sad that a club like yours is still in L1. With a fit and proper owner with a coherent long term strategy you should be fighting to get back into the PL, its outrageous that you are still in L1 going into your 6th season and McCabe still has people convinced that its all the managers fault and bad luck.
 
Bladesway said:
I don't loathe him but your statement is really, really wide of the mark for me. How could he be worse? We are probably the most under performing team in all 4 divisions. You could say Mike Ashley, but he has overseen far better returns and success than we have.

You could say the Chairwoman of Southampton when they sold pretty much everyone they had, but look where they ended up. You could say Leeds, but they are in a far better place than we are. Charlton? Still been more successful in recent years than us. Villa are the only contenders who I would say are on a McCabe type trajectory, but still way ahead of us.
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I just don't blame a clubs plight purely on a chairman.
McCabe brought in the man most of us wanted last year, he won't have been cheap. Ok we lost Murphy but with player power as strong as it is I've stopped blaming clubs for losing their better players. He funded a big move for Billy and brought in Nigel's best mate on probable premiership wages.
To be honest I've never stuck up for the board before, I'm as sick of this shit as the rest of us but "he's a cunt I hate him" was also really really harsh in my eyes.
While we are listing crap chairman, Cellino must be up there. He's lunatic.
 
Bob Scratchit said:
Forgive me but as a Saints fan I have to take umbrage with that comment about Southamptons owner. Katarina Liebherr (and her late father before her) is one of the best owners in the country, her family bought us at the bottom of L1, wiped out our debts and wrote them off, backed us big time in the lower leagues and has poured tens of millions into our club over the years on the academy and club infrastructure to try and get us to the top table of PL football. The strategy of selling many of our players was actually consistent with our growth strategy, we made an obscene amount of money from those players and have the infrastructure in place to replace them with better players for half the money and we continued to climb the table as a result. We are one of the only clubs making a net profit as we improve year on year.

I say this not to gloat but because I know what both a well run club and a badly run club looks like having gone experienced both extremes in the last 10 years, Administration in L1 to Europe and top 8 in the PL. I completely agree with your comments regarding McCabe and consider you a badly run club, you are among the most under-performing teams and I think it's sad that a club like yours is still in L1. With a fit and proper owner with a coherent long term strategy you should be fighting to get back into the PL, its outrageous that you are still in L1 going into your 6th season and McCabe still has people convinced that its all the managers fault and bad luck.
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As good as it is up there on your high horse, just remember the football league is full of clubs that had a great few years.

As easy as you went through the leagues, the loss of a manager, a bad appointment and a few duff expensive foreign signings and you could be back down here just as easily.
 
From the pig end said:
I honestly don't understand the loathing for McCabe.
Look at other clubs owners, we could do a lot worse.
Granted, there are better backers out there but I really thinks he cares. I know for a fact I'm in the minority.
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he does care about the club i know him personally (he's my late grandpas cousin) hes a lifelong blade always has been yh mate you are unfortunately in the minority but at least theres other people on here who like him he knows how to run a football club
 
Bob Scratchit said:
Forgive me but as a Saints fan I have to take umbrage with that comment about Southamptons owner. Katarina Liebherr (and her late father before her) is one of the best owners in the country, her family bought us at the bottom of L1, wiped out our debts and wrote them off, backed us big time in the lower leagues and has poured tens of millions into our club over the years on the academy and club infrastructure to try and get us to the top table of PL football. The strategy of selling many of our players was actually consistent with our growth strategy, we made an obscene amount of money from those players and have the infrastructure in place to replace them with better players for half the money and we continued to climb the table as a result. We are one of the only clubs making a net profit as we improve year on year.

I say this not to gloat but because I know what both a well run club and a badly run club looks like having gone experienced both extremes in the last 10 years, Administration in L1 to Europe and top 8 in the PL. I completely agree with your comments regarding McCabe and consider you a badly run club, you are among the most under-performing teams and I think it's sad that a club like yours is still in L1. With a fit and proper owner with a coherent long term strategy you should be fighting to get back into the PL, its outrageous that you are still in L1 going into your 6th season and McCabe still has people convinced that its all the managers fault and bad luck.
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Aye, let's not forget that important bit, Bob: your lot going into administration 7 years ago.

Some have greatness thrust upon them. Some go into administration, welch on their debts & luck out, debt free, with a decent new owner in tow*.




* Wiki: On 22 October 2007, it was announced the club's plc board had received a takeover bid from an unknown investor which would purchase 55% of the shares in the company. Two days later, a London-based hedge fund, SISU Capital, was named as the potential new owner. The self-described "special situations investment fund management company" has previously attempted to gain control of Derby County and Manchester City; former footballer Ray Ranson was involved with both bids, and SISU intended to nominate him for a place on the Southampton board. However, on 14 December it was confirmed that SISU had completed a takeover of Coventry City, effectively ending their interest in Southampton.

How different it could have been...
 
Bob Scratchit said:
Forgive me but as a Saints fan I have to take umbrage with that comment about Southamptons owner. Katarina Liebherr (and her late father before her) is one of the best owners in the country, her family bought us at the bottom of L1, wiped out our debts and wrote them off, backed us big time in the lower leagues and has poured tens of millions into our club over the years on the academy and club infrastructure to try and get us to the top table of PL football. The strategy of selling many of our players was actually consistent with our growth strategy, we made an obscene amount of money from those players and have the infrastructure in place to replace them with better players for half the money and we continued to climb the table as a result. We are one of the only clubs making a net profit as we improve year on year.

I say this not to gloat but because I know what both a well run club and a badly run club looks like having gone experienced both extremes in the last 10 years, Administration in L1 to Europe and top 8 in the PL. I completely agree with your comments regarding McCabe and consider you a badly run club, you are among the most under-performing teams and I think it's sad that a club like yours is still in L1. With a fit and proper owner with a coherent long term strategy you should be fighting to get back into the PL, its outrageous that you are still in L1 going into your 6th season and McCabe still has people convinced that its all the managers fault and bad luck.
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Zzzzz. I much prefer Pompey.
 



Worksop_Blade said:
As good as it is up there on your high horse, just remember the football league is full of clubs that had a great few years.

As easy as you went through the leagues, the loss of a manager, a bad appointment and a few duff expensive foreign signings and you could be back down here just as easily.
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Not saying it can't, don't claim to be on a high horse, very conscious that the entropic second law of thermodynamics dictates all things in life will ultimately burn out in the end, just studying current trends and I think your model at this moment in time is evidently unsuccessful and I think that is McCabe is responsible for that.

I only mentioned Southampton to correct what I saw as an erroneous comment which I wished to correct, not to gloat. We are on an upward curve at the minute (that will turn one day as you say), but it's not just us, there are many teams in the PL like Stoke, West Brom, Swansea etc whom a club of your size should be competing with and I simply post to say why them and not you?. Why are they getting on whilst you wait for the right face to click at managerial level?
 
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