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One season at this level for the manager to win promotion or you are out.

No more talk of time to build, making progress or sorting things out behind the scenes.

That is how it is.

Good luck Chris, I have a feeling you are going to need it.

I think if Adkins had gotten us into the playoffs and lost, he would still be in the job.
 
Amazing how incredibly unambitious some Blades have become, when finishing 11th in Division Three is now perfectly acceptable to them.


P.S. Nigel's "three year Division Three rebuilding project" only took effect after he'd totally bollocksed this season up.

Who said it was acceptable? I think the way the season panned out (20 odd players leaving and only 6 coming in) it was clear that we were rebuilding and promotion was going to be less likely than previous seasons.
 
Clough got us into the play offs and still got sacked so the precedent is set. As Harry says, 1 season promotion or sacked. So why give someone a 3 year contract?

I don't agree with the 3 year contract, stupid considering our track record of getting through managers. However, I imagine that is what the LMA advise all manager to go for when negotiating, in order to protect themselves.

2 year max, as that protects the club if the manager has a great 1st year and then another club comes in, and also reduces the amount of combo when they end up sacking them.
 
Who said it was acceptable? I think the way the season panned out (20 odd players leaving and only 6 coming in) it was clear that we were rebuilding and promotion was going to be less likely than previous seasons.

Rebuilding involving "giving everyone a clean slate"; clueless, patternless football for the most part; and Sammon, Hammond, Edgar & Woolford as integral members of the first team.

And the twenty-odd players leaving included cast-offs from the under-9s.

Let Nigel do his "rebuilding" (while talking of promotion) somewhere else. We've moved on, thankfully.
 



I don't agree with the 3 year contract, stupid considering our track record of getting through managers. However, I imagine that is what the LMA advise all manager to go for when negotiating, in order to protect themselves.

2 year max, as that protects the club if the manager has a great 1st year and then another club comes in, and also reduces the amount of combo when they end up sacking them.

3 years or longer is pretty ridiculous and has cost us over the years. Any manager worth his salt though won't accept less - why should they when they are looking after their future and are generally in demand so can call the shots?

Effin ell.......didn't Newcastle give Pardew a 7 year contract!! Idiots
 
Rebuilding involving "giving everyone a clean slate"; clueless, patternless football for the most part; and Sammon, Hammond, Edgar & Woolford as integral members of the first team.

And the twenty-odd players leaving included cast-offs from the under-9s.

Let Nigel do his "rebuilding" (while talking of promotion) somewhere else. We've moved on, thankfully.

Moving out 20+ professional players is still a lot even if some were youngsters.

We're still rebuilding now, I'd say we need at least 10 players for the first team squad to stand any chance next year. I just don't think any manager coming in cold will be able to build a promotion team in such a short space of time and we're be looking for a new manager again this time next year.
 
P.S. Nigel's "three year Division Three rebuilding project" only took effect after he'd totally bollocksed this season up.

Not 100% on this, but didn't the late manager say that the side at the start of the season was not good enough to get promoted? Nor was it with his additions, which finds us pinning our hopes on Wilder.
 
I've heard some great claims about the 5 players Adkins was allowed to buy over the last two weeks.

My personal highlights are:
* Adkins had the 2nd highest budget in league one
* Adkins spent £10.5 million on players this season
 
To be fair we may be reading too much into the "three year contract" stuff, who knows what clauses are inserted into; it in the event that promotion isn't achieved, in the event that we're positioned X at Christmas etc. I'd like to think after 9 managers in as many years our board at least knows how to avoid big pay outs when giving these managers the chop. But then this is our board....
 
If he gets 80-90 points and finishes third or fourth then that would show improvement he may get another chance, apart from that then yes, it's Sheffield Utd in the third division, of course promotion is the deciding factor.
 
One season at this level for the manager to win promotion or you are out.

No more talk of time to build, making progress or sorting things out behind the scenes.

That is how it is.

Good luck Chris, I have a feeling you are going to need it.

Disagree.
It's about seeing signs of progress.

For example if Adkins had finished 3rd and just failed in the playoffs playing great attacking football.
If we'd developed young players with many of the players showing improved form towards the end of the season.
If most people on the forums showed support towards Adkins.
If more fans had stayed behind after the Scunthorpe game for the lap of honour

Then Adkins would still be in a job.
 
He was sacked for "non-footballing" reason wasn't he? had a bust up with the board.

Like anyone else who says no to King Kevin McCabe then?

Fairly sure that Clough had a major spat with Jim & Co during a meeting. Refused to change style of play so was told to do one. If he had agreed to be more attacking he would have had a 2nd season.

The absurdity of that sacking was that he was allowed anywhere near the retained list before the necesarry meeting took place, set us back another 12 months. Also, remember that video he was made to do?!? :eek:

At least this time the owners haven't f*****d about, fair play in that respect.
 
Adkins was sacked because he was utterly clueless.

He took a side who finished 5th the season before and finished 11th.

He made awful signings in Woolford, Hammond and Edgar as well as going through with the Sammon signing.

He obviously did zero research on our previous season as he failed to sign a centre half in the close season and didn't get a decent one in until Baptiste. He also brought Collins in from the cold and stuck with him for 7 months despite him being shite.

He moved on lots of players, that is true, but in loaning out Campbell Ryce and Freeman we lost any pace that we had in the side and loaning out McNulty until the end of the season limited our striker options. Whatever you think of McNulty he would have got more goals than DCL or Sammon off the bench in the run in.

Biggest negative for me though was his tactics, bizzare selections, motivation skills (or lack of) and his frankly laughable substitions/ability to change a game. We often seemed to come out after half time half asleep. We never once came from a losing position to win. On several occasions when we had a real chance to kick on into the top 6 with a win we failed miserably, often with a whimper and little urgency or desire.

His worst for me was Swindon at home. One nil up and solid, he changed our entire central midfield - even putting Flynn in the middle and Read out wide which just handed the game back to Swindon. Southend away was bizarre too - played Flynn central but young Whiteman wide. Then when behind he took off all midfielders again for four strikers leaving us totally shapeless following Phil Brown changing their formation. Players also went backwards under him. His big main signing in Hammond who he pursued relentlessly was worse than Ian Fucking Hamilton, yet he continued to extol his virtues and extended his loan deal in January when those wages could surely have been better spent.

So yes he inherited a big squad that needed trimming, yes he didn't have a lot to play with in the transfer market but even considering that, what he did do with the team, as above, was absolutely pitiful and showed not one bit of positivity that made you think giving him time would allow him to turn it round.

So no, I don't think failure to get promoted automatically gets you the sack. But failure to get top 6 while being totally tactically inept, making constant idiotic substitutions, god awful transfer market decisions and not being able to motivate the players to play to the maximum of their ability means, rightly, you will be in trouble.

As a footnote all Adkins failings were exactly what Reading fans had said about him so it was hardly a one off.
 
One season at this level for the manager to win promotion or you are out.

No more talk of time to build, making progress or sorting things out behind the scenes.

That is how it is.

Good luck Chris, I have a feeling you are going to need it.

Clough would have stayed but his man management of the players and his criticism, plus his over spending to produce mediocrity cost him. Adkins was hamstrung by the Clough reign, but failed to deliver attacking and attractive football, and his signings, were mixed at best. I can see why both Clough and Adkins were sacked. Whether you agree is not its not like they got us promoted and then we sacked them!
 
Bladepicker,

Good post.
I would have thought that the board really didn't want to sack another manager.
They've talked about stability and sticking by the manager and you can bet that someone will have said "we sack the manager every year and it's not getting us anywhere, maybe we need to be patient".

However in the cold light of day if they made a list of Adkins positives against his negatives.
Then the evidence is pretty compelling that if we found a suitable alternative then he deserved the sack.

It migh sound silly but I do think the final straw was the Scunthorpe game.
The players played like it was a pre season friendly....NA seems to struggle to motivat the players.
Although we did a lot of attacking against Scunnie we never troubled their keeper once.
We had loads of corners but all season we've never looked like scoring from a corner or set piece.
When we conceded against the run of play... The players heads dropped and there was no reaction
And not even any reaction or urgency in the 2nd half. We lacked belief, character and leadership as we lost with a whimper...it's happened many times under NA and for us Blades simply not giving it a go is not acceptable.

And don't forget the board should be in touch with the fans and monitor morale and reaction.

When the fans are shouting "your not fit to wear the shirt" and
"You're getting sacked in the morning"

The board knew that hopes for next season would be really low with NA in charge.

At least now I have fresh hope and I'm looking forward to next season to see some new players.
By the law of averages surely we must get a good manager sooner or later.
Promotion will be all the more sweeter with a Blade in charge.
 
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Why do posters keep pointing out what Adkins did wrong like they're the only ones that noticed?
 
3 years or longer is pretty ridiculous and has cost us over the years. Any manager worth his salt though won't accept less - why should they when they are looking after their future and are generally in demand so can call the shots?

Effin ell.......didn't Newcastle give Pardew a 7 year contract!! Idiots

I believe we gave Porterfield a ten year deal.
 



3 years or longer is pretty ridiculous and has cost us over the years. Any manager worth his salt though won't accept less - why should they when they are looking after their future and are generally in demand so can call the shots?

Our glorious recent record with managers let go and the contracts we gave them:

Nigel Adkins – 3 year deal, sacked after 11 months
Nigel Clough – 2.5 year deal, sacked after 1 year 6 months
David Weir – 3 year deal, sacked after 4 months
Danny Wilson – 3 year deal, sacked after 1 year 11 months
Micky Adams – 2.5 year deal, sacked after 5 months
Kevin Blackwell – temporary deal to end of season led to 3 year contract, extended to 4 years, sacked after 2 years 3 months
Bryan Robson – 3 year deal, removed after 8 months

Let's also remember that having achieved promotion to the Premier League, Neil Warnock was considered to be fine on a 12 month contract by the club.
 

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