Forest deducted four points

[Bell4]

Imagine having some fans, who never fail, at every available opportunity, to stick the proverbial boot in.

Or have a very valid opinion

 

[scouseblade]

Im struggling to understand theres only being 4 but overspent by more than Everton? This is farcical.

 

[chesblade]

Thought I heard on radio they were actually given 6 points deduction but because they held their hands up over Johnson they dropped it to 4

 

[Greasy Chap Butty]

£34m overspend - they've easily earned a win and a draw extra from that, so it was a worth it for them.
A punishment should leave you behind.

 

[Valley Blade]

Am I wrong?

You are right that the club hasn't achieved its aims. However, the owner has signed at least 12 players and spent approximately £60m on transfers. I imagine he thought this would improve us. It hasn't. If these players had done well, I do not think you'd be critical. The blame lies with the management and the recruitment staff, who have signed inadequate players. Any owner can only trust these people to get it right. We haven't and it's that simple.

 

[Blades1971]

This financial and profitable bililty is a joke. Points deduction mean nothing, especially when they can appeal.
It should be automatic relegation. They would be more quaint with their spending then. Football is becoming a joke

 

[sheffieldred]

Well it does mean something. We've got 4 points less than we had this morning and if the league ended tomorrow we'd be down.

 

[metalblade]

Why would I give a fuck about Forest or Everton for that matter? We aren't good enough we are going down without a shadow of a doubt, prepare for the championship relegation battle guys.

 

[Pedro's Winger]

Just underlines how much we've self-destructed when just being vaguely competitive would have given us a very good chance of staying up.
The latest chapter in a long history of missed opportunities.

 

[wizadry]

Well it does mean something. We've got 4 points less than we had this morning and if the league ended tomorrow we'd be down.

It doesn’t end tomorrow and it’s barely a drop in the ocean of the cheating your club has done, you know it stinks, not only the decision but the fact they’ve made the decision straight after the Luton game, bent as fuck, everything about it stinks to high heaven.

 

[originaltrueblade]

Scabs go down would be excellent

 

[steve26272]

This financial and profitable bililty is a joke. Points deduction mean nothing, especially when they can appeal.
It should be automatic relegation. They would be more quaint with their spending then. Football is becoming a joke

this is almost rewarding cheating

23/24 £131m spent on 17 players (net spend £50m)
22/23 £195m, 29 players (£190m net)
21/22 £7m, 17 players (£6m net)

So in last 3 years they’ve seen 63 new faces, with a net spend of £327m for only 4 points

I like to take the moral high ground, but if a rich owner comes in and says yeah fuck it, huge squad overhaul, daft wages, spunkin £300+m and they want to dock me 4 measly points in 3 years time?

 

[ThatJa]

This proves a case-by-case basis ruling does not work.

Forest 4pts, but overspent by more than Everton who got 10 reduced to 6.

My mind boggles.

 

[1973Blade]

Given all the comments from opposition supporters saying that we are 'stinking out the Premier League ' it would slightly amuse me if we were to somehow stay up and proceed to stink out the Premier League again next season.

 

[JustLookin]

Given all the comments from opposition supporters saying that we are 'stinking out the Premier League ' it would slightly amuse me if we were to somehow stay up and proceed to stink out the Premier League again next season.

To which the correct response is “how does one stink out a cesspool?”

 

[metalblade]

There should be just the one punishment for overspending and that is relegation even if you are Man City.

 

[bonobo]

Both these decisions could relegate Forest and Everton, it is not a meaningless punishment. If us and Burnley were not so absolutely gash, it would be even more threatening. I really don't know how X spend should be translated in X punishment ?. But however shifty some clubs are being to get around this, there is obviously a check on spending and what Everton and Forest have experienced will caution a lot of clubs.

 

[dsr-burnley]

this is almost rewarding cheating

23/24 £131m spent on 17 players (net spend £50m)
22/23 £195m, 29 players (£190m net)
21/22 £7m, 17 players (£6m net)

So in last 3 years they’ve seen 63 new faces, with a net spend of £327m for only 4 points

I like to take the moral high ground, but if a rich owner comes in and says yeah fuck it, huge squad overhaul, daft wages, spunkin £300+m and they want to dock me 4 measly points in 3 years time?
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The thing about the £326m spent over the past two years, is that it's amortised over the length of the contracts. So only about £40m-£50m will have hit in 2022-23, and when the current year accounts are published there will be a £70m-£80m hit, and the same again for the next couple of years. Unless they can sell some of them for more than their accounts value, they are well up the creek for a few years.

 

[Bladey_blade]

Collymore on the radio earlier saying forest will stay up because of the quality of players they have, without a hint of irony. Prick

 

[sheffieldred]

Quite interesting.

 

[JustLookin]

Quite interesting.
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It is quite interesting but it doesn’t explain why they spent so much, which is because they’re a set of dirty cheating cunts.

 

[Kizmet]

Quite interesting.
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Oh boo Hoo

 

[Sean Thornton]

Exactly this
Premier League - corrupt as fuck.

Points deductions and reductions on appeal are linked not to the level of financial breaches but to the wealth of the owner and therefore the likelihood of ongoing expensive legal threats/action.

 

[Greg.]

Quite interesting.
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Interesting chart but the 'had to spend so much money' comment is a bit off. Would imagine Luton upon promotion this season would be similar to Forest's in terms of value.

 

[chesblade]

Heard a bit on five live earlier, apparently prem league wanted a 10 point deduction but the other panel said it should only be 6 and because they have not argued the case it was dropped to 4

 

[loyalblade95]

Couldn't believe it when I heard it, FFP punishments are an absolute joke and that's just basically said to the rest of the league that you won't get punished appropriately for breaking the spending rules.

 

[Champagneblade]

£34m overspend - they've easily earned a win and a draw extra from that, so it was a worth it for them.
A punishment should leave you behind.

Basically the message is this - if you believe it can get you clear of relegation by 4 points - then cheat.

 

[sheffieldred]

Yeah. Not saying that it means we shouldve spent what we have. But it shows something about the disparity for teams coming up.

Yours would've been similar in 2019.

 

[loyalblade95]

Just you watch, Luton pull their cunt out to stay up by a 3 points, only for the fucking bent Premier League to reinstate Forests 4 points after appeal…I sincerely hope the scabs still need the points when they come to BDTBL…I will happily forget the previous 9 months if we can bring them down with us.

Would be happy to see them come down with us.

 

[Houston_Blade]

You are right that the club hasn't achieved its aims. However, the owner has signed at least 12 players and spent approximately £60m on transfers. I imagine he thought this would improve us. It hasn't. If these players had done well, I do not think you'd be critical. The blame lies with the management and the recruitment staff, who have signed inadequate players. Any owner can only trust these people to get it right. We haven't and it's that simple.

We had to spend £30m of that to try and keep the fans quiet having sold Ndiaye and Berge. We seemingly had no plan in place to effectively replace either. The Archer deal is also a complete farce because it’s a convoluted loan contract and as a result he’s never really been bought in from day one.

You’re right though, if we’d have done well I wouldn’t have been critical, that’s the point though, we haven’t done well. It’s down to the fact that we made ridiculous decisions that were called out by many at the time and we’ve seen the consequences for a whole season.

It’s ok though, Chris and Abdullah have their heads together on next season so we’ll be fine!