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With the current situation it looks like we may start to lose some fans.

Despite what many are saying this isn't the worst we've seen United by any stretch of the imagination.

Perhaps expectations are above what many of us have had in the past.

Yes it's frustrating, yes we should expect more, perhaps the manager and the players should look at themselves, but people of a certain age have seen it all before.

Time to stop watching or a time to support the club/team???

Your choice.
 



I'll continue to go to every game, if you're only gonna go when we're doing well you should go and support Man Utd or summat.
 
I pay to watch and support the club/team through thick and thin. If your one of them glory seekers who only bought a season ticket 'cos we went in the premiership and refused to get one when we came back down, then you aint a blade by my eyes

I couldnt agree more SF
 
I'll always go regardles. Whether i go and enjoy it and can be bothered to go is a different matter.
 
ive got my s/t and will continue to have one. From now on, while robson is in charge, i wont be attending many away matches.

While wasting £50 odd quidd on going to watch a team with no leadership, no battle, no direction is not worth it when i could be making £100 for a mornings work.
 
I'll still be going, but then I go whenever I can go - I can't pick and choose my games that easily anyway!

We have had much worse times (all the way down to the 4th, anyone?) - but this still isn't good - we should be in Watford's position
 
With the current situation it looks like we may start to lose some fans.

Despite what many are saying this isn't the worst we've seen United by any stretch of the imagination.

Perhaps expectations are above what many of us have had in the past.

Yes it's frustrating, yes we should expect more, perhaps the manager and the players should look at themselves, but people of a certain age have seen it all before.

Time to stop watching or a time to support the club/team???

Your choice.

For me, if it's about what you'd do if you stopped watching the Blades.

I've made my mind up, as I've decided to make the split from my beloved side. I'll always be a Blade, but really we're not talking about 'decent players', but simply cash. I'm going back to where it's fun, and I sincerely hope I miss watching us win major honours.

Because I want United to win.
 
A cracking post taken from Blades Mad -

From The Heart – How It Is

It started as I was living and growing up in Oughtibridge many years ago, my Dad a real Blade born and bred in Sheffield, well he married a Cornish girl and they settled in Oughtibridge, he took me to the Lane and I became absolutely hooked, the red and white striped shirts, the smell of tobacco the wooden floors in the old players “G” entrance in John Street, this quality goalkeeper who bothered to give little me time (Alan Hodgkinson). In those early days we stood just to the right of the players tunnel and myself and my Dad got to know very well a lad of the same age as me and his Dad, his Dad was a WBA fan who had moved to Sheffield for his line of work, the lad became a long standing Blade, but he still kept in contact with his old WBA friends (more of that later).

Being a Blade, like the vast majority goes back to when we were growing up either in Sheffield or the outlying areas of Sheffield. Myself for instance “Oughtibridge” a piggy stronghold just ask Alan Quinn. I can remember on many occasions me and another lad running the gauntlet entering school if United had lost and the scum had won, boy we suffered. If they had lost and we had won there was absolutely no one around (Fickle gits)
It brought me up to be a dyed in absolute BLADE. I recall travelling on the 57 bus into watch United and spitting in my hand as we past swillsborough.
The commitment to SUFC started young and it became that United were everything, I also recall that my Dad never ever bought the Sheffield Telegraph on a W*dnesday because the paper said Sheffield, W*ednesday, and then the date.
What I am trying to say is that this absolute commitment to United started very young and nothing else mattered. I can recall one Saturday, United at home playing Southampton and I was ill and could not go but the old radio (valve) was on and I shed tears when we tore them apart 4-1, not just because we won but because I could not go.
During the years that passed by I wondered sometimes if United really wondered what UNITED meant to me and fans like me. I can tell you now that they meant everything to me, we lived and breathed football, we pretended to be Alan Hodgkinson if in goal and if an outfield player it was usually at the time Doc Pace or Billy Hodgson and later TC.
The years past by and the commitment to United never faltered, my mates who I had stood on the Kop with were still there, their commitment also had never faltered. The Highs, Promotion, the Lows, relegation and that FA Cup Semi-Final (still have the programmes) of 1960/61 in which we lost the second reply to Leicester City (still hate them to this day).
We have seen many players come and go, many managers also. The likes of AlanHodgkinson, Coldwell, Graham Shaw, Brian Richardson, from that early era of mine, through to Tony Currie (great bloke when you get to know him, just don’t ask to take his photo, that’s also another story) then we had the Deano/Agana and many many more.
I have seen bad times in the old Third Division when we were very poor, why because the players were poor and the club lacked investment, the old Fourth Division and the dark early days of that season when there were not many in the ground when we stuffed Torquay 4-1. Reg Brearly invested money and when he did not I recall some Blades welding his gates together so that when he returned from the match he just could not get in (was not me really)
Then we started on the up and up and up, the Adrian Heath arrived that was a real downer, but we got rid and we went on.

Bassett/Warnock came and went. Never really forgiven Bassett for the diamonds as the stripes are scared. Warnock did well, like with Bassett’s teams they played with passion.
Look the point I am making is that this commitement to UNITED took years, it was developed over many years, remember that.
Going back to earlier, remember the early years and the WBA Dad and his son, well his son still meets up now and then and he still has WBA friends (but he is and always has been a pure Blade) well his WBA friends tell him that is exactly how they felt under Robson, helplessness!

United have always had s*it chairman along with different s*it boards until now. McCabe is one of the best chairman, if not the best, that we have ever had and I find it very difficult to say otherwise. I think that John Harris was probably the best manager since I have supported United.
Anyway, getting back to what needs to be said.
Now it is time for answers, because not one of my mates but two of my mates (both went to Cardiff yesterday, I could not make this one) have both told me that they will not be going on Boxing Day or next Saturday, they said that they will not be going until Bryan Robson has left. They told me that it is obvious that the players do not want to play for this manager. One said that he had been told by two players (remain nameless) Robson has not got a clue and Kidd is no better. These two friends have supported United since the 1960/61 season and have been season ticket holders ever since. They tell me that they have informed United that they will not return until Bryan Robson has left the club.
When they went through things with me last night I found that I agreed with everything that they said, we are in a state of LIMBO, emptiness, lack of interest, no hope, and we feel as if we are going absolutely nowhere at all. The team play with no passion. And ardent fans are giving up.
They have informed the club (and I can tell you that they know many officials at the club which has been built up over the decades) that they will not return until there is a change of manager.
I am still here and that is why I have decided to tell you this.
When you get fans of this long association with United saying they have had enough something has to be done.
I am calling on Kevin McCabe to act now, please, much sooner rather than later to sack this manager who has took fans to feeling so low that they are even saying they are not interested anymore.
Act now Mr. Chairman before more damage is done that can never be repaired and SACK ROBSON.
If you are a Blade then do it!

Sorry for going on fellow Blades but this needed saying. This is how I feel.
I am gutted that United no longer can count on the support of these two very long standing Blades, it’s time to act McCabe and get rid of this manager who only got the job in the first place because he once captained England, because it most certainly cannot be for his manager qualities can it! Everyone can see it so for GOD’s sake do something!

That about sums up the feelings of a lot of Blades me included. I would find it very hard to criticise fans who had lost interest and decided to stay away, more than that I find it offensive that the fans in the above post would be tarnished as "not true Blades" by some.
 
Years ago when I was in the pub trade I couldn't attend every match, so I had to pick and choose the matches I attended. If a match fell on my day off, I went. It didn't matter who we were playing, if I wasn't working I would go.
Now I work sensible hours, and I've had a season ticket for several years. The only times I don't go to home matches are when I'm out of the country on holiday, or so ill I can't walk. In the last six years I've missed a total of nine home games.
I'm not staying away from the Lane just because the management team are a pair of clueless bumblers, but like Keenzy said, I'll not be going to any more away matches this season. The cost and the family commitments are a factor here. Does that make me any less of a Blade?
If you don't want to go to the home matches despite having a season ticket then that's up to you, and nothing we say can change your mind.
But I've never been the type of fan who only supports the Blades when we are winning.
I'm one of those who sings loud when we are in front, loud when we are drawing and loud when we are losing ten nil.
I've seen United when we went down to the Fourth Division, and we were properly shite.
So some ex-Man Utd pisshead isn't going to keep me away, no matter how much of a mess he's trying to create. I hope he turns things around and we start winning in style, but even if we don't I'll still be shouting and singing.
 



DD is right. Taking the long term view of how things have been over the last 35 years I've been watching United this has to rank as a part of the good times.

However, the problem is that this is following a time of undoubted good times that were filled with optimism not experienced by Blades for a long, long time. A board and chairman who actually know how to run a club is a new experience for us all, added to a sense that this might be the time when the Blades established themselves as a bit of a force. Many maybe sensing that this potential is being pissed away, hence the current mood.

The old real lows, I was there when Don Givens missed that penalty, were all in the middle of real slumps, and even the highs then had this feeling of being temporary, no real substance or quality leadership that would sustain it. For many this had the feeling of being different, that the top of the club was right and this was a concerted and substantial effort to bring success.

Old cynics like me don't hold their breath waiting for the promised land, but I can fully understand why so many Blades are intensely frustrated and deflated about the current situation. But being a Blade is for me, an identity, not a choice of entertainment for the week-end. It isn't a visit to the cinema or theatre or restaurant or club or pub, it is a part of who I am. If I'm not going to the theatre, I don't avidly check radio, TV, t'internet to find out what the performance was like. Win, lose or draw is almost an irrelevance to that identity.

You can take the lad out of BDTBL, but can't take BDTBL out of the boy.
 
Although I can understand those "weathered" Blades accusing the younger ones of having inflated levels of expectation but there's more to it than that, I reckon. It feels like, for the first time in a few decades we have the infrastructure at the club to make us great, long-term contenders in the top-level of English football. It almost feels like the time is running out for us to get to that level before the plug will be pulled on us and it'll be "back to square one".
 
I have only two team pictures of the Blades. My oldest memory the 1963 Blades - Hodgkinson, Joe Shaw, Graham Shaw, Len Badger all international class - and the 1982 $th Division Champs. It was good to have a winning team in 82 but none could make this squad. With Speed and maybe others to come, it is way too early to give up on this lot.
 
Perhaps expectations are above what many of us have had in the past.

...And so they should be!

Ill never stop supporting and Ill never stop going but whats frustrating is we all know we can do so much better!

Theres still time Blades! Cumon we need a start in 2 days time!

UTB
 
Although I can understand those "weathered" Blades accusing the younger ones of having inflated levels of expectation but there's more to it than that, I reckon.

I made be old but my expectations were still high and my disappointment great. The hole in the team has been obvious ever since NW decided he did not need anyone new in mid-field. Humping it up to a lonely striker is always hit and miss and usually more miss. Having seen more perhaps the old gang recognizes the talent we have and so are less willing to give up. Come on Blades!
 
I feel lost!

I had a strong feeling that at the start of the season it would take time - It always has with Blades lets face it ... I honestly thought we had turned a corner when we beat Stoke, Leicester and Charlton away but things appear to have hit rock bottom again.

I have previously defended Robson ... I could see what he was trying to do - He was trying to get us, UNITED to play attractive entertaining football ... This made me sure that time was needed - no matter how creative we were or how many goals Beattie scored we were unable to win a game ... The old problems continue to grow - our lack of midfield creativity and abundant skill and pace out wide just arent there but Mr Robson is trying to change that and unfortunately having no success.

I really am not sure what it is I want Kevin to do ... Sack him in time for January to give somebody new a chance to bring in that creative midfield goalpower we all crave or a tricky pacey winger and hope with everything crossed its not too late to turn things around ... Or should he wait and continue to wait hoping that wonder boy Man Utd Veteran ex-England captain will turn good.

I know that the majority on the forum would love 2 see the back of him but im stuck because in any other situation - any other club I would say give him time, change is never immediate but this is the BLADES and the club we all love with passion and the situation we were in at the start of the season was almost perfect ... Since then everything seems to have gone backwards and therefore is it right 2 say he has failed? Would somebody else have installed the passion and fight needed to take our potentially successful squad and positively developing club to an immediate return to the holy land?

I just dont know?
 
I feel lost!

I had a strong feeling that at the start of the season it would take time - It always has with Blades lets face it ... I honestly thought we had turned a corner when we beat Stoke, Leicester and Charlton away but things appear to have hit rock bottom again.

I have previously defended Robson ... I could see what he was trying to do - He was trying to get us, UNITED to play attractive entertaining football ... This made me sure that time was needed - no matter how creative we were or how many goals Beattie scored we were unable to win a game ... The old problems continue to grow - our lack of midfield creativity and abundant skill and pace out wide just arent there but Mr Robson is trying to change that and unfortunately having no success.

I really am not sure what it is I want Kevin to do ... Sack him in time for January to give somebody new a chance to bring in that creative midfield goalpower we all crave or a tricky pacey winger and hope with everything crossed its not too late to turn things around ... Or should he wait and continue to wait hoping that wonder boy Man Utd Veteran ex-England captain will turn good.

I know that the majority on the forum would love 2 see the back of him but im stuck because in any other situation - any other club I would say give him time, change is never immediate but this is the BLADES and the club we all love with passion and the situation we were in at the start of the season was almost perfect ... Since then everything seems to have gone backwards and therefore is it right 2 say he has failed? Would somebody else have installed the passion and fight needed to take our potentially successful squad and positively developing club to an immediate return to the holy land?

I just dont know?

Good post I'd say.

I don't want us to become a club who sacks the manager every 6 months but something has to change.....will it be Robson who makes those changes??

One thing is sure....United will frustrate me some more in the future no doubt!
 
Foxs seal of approval :cool:

Im just not convinced its right to get rid of him ... Hes attracting the right players but we are so inconsistent its untrue!
 
Me and Daz were talking about this in the pub yesterday.

Lets keep him till end of Jan, when he gets the good players in and then sack him and replace him with Billy Davies. PERFECT.
 
To say i am disappointed at the current situation is a vast understatement. I went on boxing day as i always do and on three occasions feared for my safety as differing opinions from myself and everyone sat round me either agreeing or disagreeing nearly ensued in fighting. I am getting sick of people saying im negative for not accepting poor standards and speaking out against them or people saying if you want robson out your not a "true blade" well in my opinion the so called "negative" people who are the people who are prepared to sit back and accept poor standards, poor management, poor results and poor performances. i am also no less of a blade because ive not been going for 60 years as i am only 21, or a young fan with my expectations set too high. I am no fool i dont expect us to be running away with the league, but i and everyone else knows that we have no where this season even come close to achiveing our potential... AND NEVER WILL UNDER ROBSON!
We will never be better than indifferent, our "good spell" just papered over the cracks and i will be extremely shocked to see us beat a team where the man at the helm knows every single thing about us! Coming to Bramall Lane this season has been depressing and monotomous but nevertheless i still go!!
I started supporting the blades by chance, im not a born and bred sheffielder with parents who ironed the blades into me (not that im saying thats bad or anything).... i was dragged by my dad whos friend is a diehard blade, to a cold winter away match and completely fell in love with everything .... The club, the team, the fans, the passion, going to matches and the fact of being able to be closer to my own family by having a shared interest.. what upsets me is evrything i so love about the club seems to be disintergrating its upsetting but i will stick by the Blades (although grumblingly) until the time comes where everything falls back into place but i just suppose thats what being a supporter is all about.. although i can not blame people who stay away and know people who stay away, that is something that i personally cannot do! I just hope Robson is removed sooner rather than later, he never is or never will be a good enough manager or in my opinion the RIGHT manager for this job! and why he is being trusted at the most important stage of the season to bring in the right players when everything else hes done this season has gone wrong is an absolute joke to me!
 
Aye, it has been said before, Robbo is fetching in the right players, he just aint got the tactics, weird. If your a fan that wants constant blue skies, get yourself of to manchester, bein a blade is all about ups and downs ha ha, couldnt really agree more with what you said there GBB
 
GBB one opinion is as good as another. Being a Silverback just means we can remember the Fourth Division, and whatever you think of what's in front of you now it is way better than what was. Saying it could be worse is no compensation for the frustration, but over time I still believe talent will win.
 



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