Wilders rant .......................................................

[mosbolad]

Think you are missing the point its not when we lose that is the problem its when we put in a non performance like what we did against Hull that is mostly the players fault. Wilder gave them instructions and its clear the players either couldnt or wouldnt follow them last Friday when they clearly are able to follow instructions as we wouldnt be in and around the play offs. They needed a kick up the ass and they duly got one, they have set a standard this season you can expect a dip now and again but that perfomance was off the scale and that to Wilder is unacceptable thats why Wilder had his rant. The players do deserve a lot of credit for where we are but a reminder from the manager when standards slip is and should not be a problem for the players

Absolutely agree Pedro but just as us on here all saw through the not bothered about results, not bothered if there’s a reaction, don’t know where the club is going, can’t make the play offs.
All that rubbish which it clearly is when 1 result puts us back in the play offs, is all a little transparent and childish.
Some games the players just aren’t at the races. They seem to be back on it now and hopefully keep it going.
And if it’s Wilder that did it through the rant then good for him (and the club) but do give the players credit too. They knew it wasn’t good enough at Hull and they put it right.

 

[Bayingblade]

Absolutely agree Pedro but just as us on here all saw through the not bothered about results, not bothered if there’s a reaction, don’t know where the club is going, can’t make the play offs.
All that rubbish which it clearly is when 1 result puts us back in the play offs, is all a little transparent and childish.
Some games the players just aren’t at the races. They seem to be back on it now and hopefully keep it going.
And if it’s Wilder that did it through the rant then good for him (and the club) but do give the players credit too. They knew it wasn’t good enough at Hull and they put it right.

Don't forget he was in Hull, Mosbolad and given my experiences of the place, you don't have to spend much time there to feel like slitting your own throat. He probably started coming round towards the bottom of the M18 on the way back

 

[mosbolad]

Don't forget he was in Hull, Mosbolad and given my experiences of the place, you don't have to spend much time there to feel like slitting your own throat. He probably started coming round towards the bottom of the M18 on the way back

It was (inexplicably) the City of Culture I’ll have you know Baying.

Also Wilder’s reaction may have been to do with sort of losing to Adkins as well in a way.
I think he even vaguely referenced it (Adkins) in the interview ‘not like some other managers I say it how it is’ ( I’ve wildly made that up but it was something along those lines ).

 

[itsinyerblood]

Absolutely agree Pedro but just as us on here all saw through the not bothered about results, not bothered if there’s a reaction, don’t know where the club is going, can’t make the play offs.
All that rubbish which it clearly is when 1 result puts us back in the play offs, is all a little transparent and childish.
Some games the players just aren’t at the races. They seem to be back on it now and hopefully keep it going.
And if it’s Wilder that did it through the rant then good for him (and the club) but do give the players credit too. They knew it wasn’t good enough at Hull and they put it right.

Think you've appointed yourself as spokesperson for the opinions of posters on the forum mosbolad. You may consider Wilder's impassioned comments 'rubbish', but I think your opinion is misplaced and incorrect.

We, meaning all Blades, have no idea what went through Wilder's mind during and after the game against Hull, but I listened to CW's comments and felt they were fair and appropriate.
At the time he may well have felt distanced from the performance he saw, he may well have considered what he saw as a betrayal of the hard work he and his staff put into preparing the team throughout the season. I think that those who question Wilder's sincerity (and you seem to be one of those who share this view) after the game have gone overboard in condemning Wilder for speaking his mind.

I don't have the time to dissect Wilder's post-match comments, but as his thoughts flowed I agreed with everything he said about the team's performance. As he said more than once, most times he 'bigs up' the players, he supports them, praises their performances, but when he criticises, well we can't have that can we? Like most things in life, if it's said sincerely and from the heart I wouldn't have a problem with being told a few home truths if necessary. Much of what I listened to from posters on the forum told me very little, other than I prefer Wilder to manage this club than those who turn up throughout the season. If Wilder had achieved little during his time at United I would understand and support some of the comments directed towards Wilder, but I think the success he's brought to this club earns Wilder enough leverage to say what he likes, including letting him air his opinions about the team, whether they play well or poorly.

If some, and it is some, not all, supporters who disagree with my comments I can live with that, in fact I'll go further, I'll respond and describe why, in Wilder's case, he's entitled to say what he likes, as long as it's appropriate and accurate. On this occasion it was both.....Wilder hit the nail on the head, fairly and squarely, and from the performance at Reading it would seem that the players are fully behind the manager. If you're still unsure, take a look at Billy Sharp's interview that supported the manager's opinion.

 

[mosbolad]

Think you've appointed yourself as spokesperson for the opinions of posters on the forum mosbolad. You may consider Wilder's impassioned comments 'rubbish', but I think your opinion is misplaced and incorrect.

We, meaning all Blades, have no idea what went through Wilder's mind during and after the game against Hull, but I listened to CW's comments and felt they were fair and appropriate.
At the time he may well have felt distanced from the performance he saw, he may well have considered what he saw as a betrayal of the hard work he and his staff put into preparing the team throughout the season. I think that those who question Wilder's sincerity (and you seem to be one of those who share this view) after the game have gone overboard in condemning Wilder for speaking his mind.

I don't have the time to dissect Wilder's post-match comments, but as his thoughts flowed I agreed with everything he said about the team's performance. As he said more than once, most times he 'bigs up' the players, he supports them, praises their performances, but when he criticises, well we can't have that can we? Like most things in life, if it's said sincerely and from the heart I wouldn't have a problem with being told a few home truths if necessary. Much of what I listened to from posters on the forum told me very little, other than I prefer Wilder to manage this club than those who turn up throughout the season. If Wilder had achieved little during his time at United I would understand and support some of the comments directed towards Wilder, but I think the success he's brought to this club earns Wilder enough leverage to say what he likes, including letting him air his opinions about the team, whether they play well or poorly.

If some, and it is some, not all, supporters who disagree with my comments I can live with that, in fact I'll go further, I'll respond and describe why, in Wilder's case, he's entitled to say what he likes, as long as it's appropriate and accurate. On this occasion it was both.....Wilder hit the nail on the head, fairly and squarely, and from the performance at Reading it would seem that the players are fully behind the manager. If you're still unsure, take a look at Billy Sharp's interview that supported the manager's opinion.

"I'm wasting my time and energy thinking we are going to get into the top 6"

4 days and one game later we are in the top 6 so if that's not rubbish and a little over the top?

However......if it's taken as his sentiment at the time then fair enough as of course as you say it is results that count and to some extent he can say what he wants if he delivers (which he has), but that doesn't stop me and others (admittedly not all, and yes I'm not the spokesman as you correctly pointed out) disagreeing.

Re Sharpy, players always support the managers opinions, they have no option unless they want to leave the club. They are always fully behind even failing managers right until they get the boot. So a player being behind the manager, nothing new really.

Anyway itsinyer, thanks for your lengthy and reasoned reply.

 

[Constantly Optimistic...]

Can't believe half of what I read on here. CW always speaks as he sees. No bullshit, no pampering to the fans, players or media. He has uncertainty in the ownership and board room which must be frustrating after all the hard work and commitment he and his team have put in. We have struggled since losing Coutts, and just about hung in there recently with spirited but not spectacular football. Momentum was slowly building, Hull away lost all that in one match, the prize huge, back in the top 6. Chris has only one thought, to win. I am similar and I felt similar to him. The early season promise all washed up in one performance. If we don't play well then so be it, but always commitment and effort should be there. He was hurting and feeling a bit disillusioned, who wasn't? He response was totally honest, totally from the heart, and I for one would not have it any other way. He is a winner, he will be a winner, we must make sure we support him all the way and we also will be winners.

 

[itsinyerblood]

"I'm wasting my time and energy thinking we are going to get into the top 6"

4 days and one game later we are in the top 6 so if that's not rubbish and a little over the top?

However......if it's taken as his sentiment at the time then fair enough as of course as you say it is results that count and to some extent he can say what he wants if he delivers (which he has), but that doesn't stop me and others (admittedly not all, and yes I'm not the spokesman as you correctly pointed out) disagreeing.

Re Sharpy, players always support the managers opinions, they have no option unless they want to leave the club. They are always fully behind even failing managers right until they get the boot. So a player being behind the manager, nothing new really.

Anyway itsinyer, thanks for your lengthy and reasoned reply.

And thanks for not responding hysterically mate.......

As for players not supporting a manager, of course they have vested reasons for not stepping out of line, but they can also choose to word a reply in such a way as not to appear 100% behind the manager. We'll have to agree to disagree about Wilder's comments after the Hull game. He was right to expect more, and each and every game, whether it's top 6 or bottom 6, represents 3 vital points, so I understand why he said what he said. The players aren't wilting violets, they're fully formed men, so chest out boys, you've heard a few harsh words....you'll survive, trust me, you will! When that particular coin is flipped and they're being

I'll just add, in case anyone thinks there's a lack of balance, I sometimes question Wilder's selections, I don't think he's infallible, and the further he takes the club the steeper Wilder's learning curve, so naturally he'll make mistakes. It's not mistakes I worry a great deal about though, it's how Wilder responds and learns from his mistakes that matters. Who hasn't convinced themselves that deciding to do something one way is correct, only to realise that perhaps the advice they'd received was superior to their own? Shit happens and you learn and move on.......I'm not one for statistics, but I believe that the stats that support Wilder are incredibly high and on a par with some of the game's most noted managers. For those who talked of life after Wilder, be careful what you wish for. If Wilder is looked after, treated well, and this is a point where the answer is clearly to do with new investment, and given the resources to compete at a far higher level, well that's for other, wiser heads to consider.

I do take issue though with those who think the players shouldn't be scolded in public. We're talking about grown men FFS, a few harsh words won't dismantle their worlds, so chest out lads, you live in the real world and you're fortunate to be paid for something that most of us would do if only we were good enough. If you're smart you'll be able to save a few grand, have no mortgage, and have a reasonable quality of life....so in context, a few words meant to inform them of life as a footballer isn't the worst form of torture they'll have to confront. If they can't take that 'tongue lashing' then maybe take a job looking after kids with terminal illnesses, that should make you realise just how fortunate you are.

 

[Pedro Verde]

I do take issue though with those who think the players shouldn't be scolded in public. We're talking about grown men FFS, a few harsh words won't dismantle their worlds, so chest out lads, you live in the real world and you're fortunate to be paid for something that most of us would do if only we were good enough. If you're smart you'll be able to save a few grand, have no mortgage, and have a reasonable quality of life....so in context, a few words meant to inform them of life as a footballer isn't the worst form of torture they'll have to confront. If they can't take that 'tongue lashing' then maybe take a job looking after kids with terminal illnesses, that should make you realise just how fortunate you are.

Totally agree they are men doing a job that is very well paid so they should be able to take a bollocking either in private or in public if they have put in a non performance. This team of Wilders should be able to respond to this as Wilder has signed them for their playing ability as well as their temperament and Wilder knows this
Its called man management

This has caused me to wonder if a team full of Premiership Prima Donnas would respond to such a bollocking or even one of S6s own Prima Donnas. Who knows

 

[itsinyerblood]

And thanks for not responding hysterically mate.......

As for players not supporting a manager, of course they have vested reasons for not stepping out of line, but they can also choose to word a reply in such a way as not to appear 100% behind the manager. We'll have to agree to disagree about Wilder's comments after the Hull game. He was right to expect more, and each and every game, whether it's top 6 or bottom 6, represents 3 vital points, so I understand why he said what he said. The players aren't wilting violets, they're fully formed men, so chest out boys, you've heard a few harsh words....you'll survive, trust me, you will! When that particular coin is flipped and they're being

I'll just add, in case anyone thinks there's a lack of balance, I sometimes question Wilder's selections, I don't think he's infallible, and the further he takes the club the steeper Wilder's learning curve, so naturally he'll make mistakes. It's not mistakes I worry a great deal about though, it's how Wilder responds and learns from his mistakes that matters. Who hasn't convinced themselves that deciding to do something one way is correct, only to realise that perhaps the advice they'd received was superior to their own? Shit happens and you learn and move on.......I'm not one for statistics, but I believe that the stats that support Wilder are incredibly high and on a par with some of the game's most noted managers. For those who talked of life after Wilder, be careful what you wish for. If Wilder is looked after, treated well, and this is a point where the answer is clearly to do with new investment, and given the resources to compete at a far higher level, well that's for other, wiser heads to consider.

I do take issue though with those who think the players shouldn't be scolded in public. We're talking about grown men FFS, a few harsh words won't dismantle their worlds, so chest out lads, you live in the real world and you're fortunate to be paid for something that most of us would do if only we were good enough. If you're smart you'll be able to save a few grand, have no mortgage, and have a reasonable quality of life....so in context, a few words meant to inform them of life as a footballer isn't the worst form of torture they'll have to confront. If they can't take that 'tongue lashing' then maybe take a job looking after kids with terminal illnesses, that should make you realise just how fortunate you are.

Oooops! Meant to continue with the first paragraph......"...and they're being lauded for playing so well, that's the moment when they should realise that there are two sides to being a pro player, and against Hull was a rare example of the Blades not turning up for an important game".

 

[Willie Carlin]

Those poor footballers getting a public bollocking, I really do feel sorry for them after putting in a totally fucking inept performance. Its the least they deserved.
Tell me you are joking !!!
Did you go and pay your hard earned cash have tiime off work to go and see what they served up at Hull ? How do you know they didnt get a bollocking ?
Im pretty sure they would have done

Not joking Peter! I hope he did rollock them in dressing and so he should have but that’s where it should have stayed, in house as they say. When media get hold of stuff like that they have a field day.

 

[Tommoblade66]

It did the trick tonight though because the players actually turned up ! Regardless of Saturday Wilders rant had a huge effect of us getting 3pts tonight

Did they? Maybe it just looked like they turned because Reading didn't show? Be thankful for 3 points but it didn't sound that good on the radio regardless how much spin they put on it. Waiting for the highlights

 

[cal the blade]

Did they? Maybe it just looked like they turned because Reading didn't show? Be thankful for 3 points but it didn't sound that good on the radio regardless how much spin they put on it. Waiting for the highlights

Didn't say we were brilliant but listening on the radio i thought we played decent .. not exactly saying we were fantastic mind. But you can only beat what's in front of you and against a rubbish hull team we were even worse and lost... Against a rubbish reading team we were better and won . So in my mind that's turning up, putting the effort in and deservedly winning the game btw the highlights are out pal

 

[Roygbiv]

Did they? Maybe it just looked like they turned because Reading didn't show? Be thankful for 3 points but it didn't sound that good on the radio regardless how much spin they put on it. Waiting for the highlights

Pig

 

[Bartleby]

Er, sorry for being pedantic but....

That 'W' in CW is..er, an upside down 'M'...

Must have bought it in The Crab closing down sale.

 

[Roygbiv]

Didn't say we were brilliant but listening on the radio i thought we played decent .. not exactly saying we were fantastic mind. But you can only beat what's in front of you and against a rubbish hull team we were even worse and lost... Against a rubbish reading team we were better and won . So in my mind that's turning up, putting the effort in and deservedly winning the game btw the highlights are out pal

He's a Wednesday fan who posts on Owlstalk. Got caught out ages ago but here's a recent thread that reveal his poor undercover skills

https://www.s24su.com/forum/index.php?threads/scruffy-but-important.62229/page-2#post-1610422

 

[derfblade.3]

Wonder why Knill did the after match interview?

 

[itsinyerblood]

Not joking Peter! I hope he did rollock them in dressing and so he should have but that’s where it should have stayed, in house as they say. When media get hold of stuff like that they have a field day.

What, as in....."Young starlet Brooks was invited to a suite in The Copthorne and spit-roasted by 4 senior Blades?"........or maybe this has it's finger on the pulse of what it means to be a professional footballer, "Manager is compelled to tell the truth. Unheard of in some quarters but not in central Sheffield".

As the cat's out of the bag let's see how the media explain Wilder's moment of explicit honesty. I bet there are supporters nationwide who are wondering why their manager can't talk as openly and without any inhibition.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Didn't say we were brilliant but listening on the radio i thought we played decent .. not exactly saying we were fantastic mind. But you can only beat what's in front of you and against a rubbish hull team we were even worse and lost... Against a rubbish reading team we were better and won . So in my mind that's turning up, putting the effort in and deservedly winning the game btw the highlights are out pal

We should write to the EFL, tell them we don't want the points because Reading weren't very good. I'm sure Hull did that after Friday.

 

[Sean Thornton]

He's a Wednesday fan who posts on Owlstalk. Got caught out ages ago but here's a recent thread that reveal his poor undercover skills

https://www.s24su.com/forum/index.php?threads/scruffy-but-important.62229/page-2#post-1610422

Metcalf?


He's a bit of a Bobby Dazzler



If ever a photo screamed out "Wednesdayite" it's this one.

 

[Roygbiv]

Metcalf?


He's a bit of a Bobby Dazzler

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If ever a photo screamed out "Wednesdayite" it's this one.

Top detective work. You should give Metcalf a few tips on how to successfully work undercover

 

[Sean Thornton]

Top detective work. You should give Metcalf a few tips on how to successfully work undercover

He used to follow a mate of mine around Facebook when he posted about United which is how I know who he is. That's the best of an impressive bunch of photos though.....

 

[Weasel]

Did they? Maybe it just looked like they turned because Reading didn't show? Be thankful for 3 points but it didn't sound that good on the radio regardless how much spin they put on it. Waiting for the highlights

How did your beloved Wendies get on last night...oh dear. Relegation scrap for your boys this season pgpig.

 

[cal the blade]

My pig radar needs working on

 

[Ainsley Harriott]

Metcalf?


He's a bit of a Bobby Dazzler

View attachment 37312

If ever a photo screamed out "Wednesdayite" it's this one.

You say ‘bobby dazzler’, I say something else...

 

[sheffielder]

Wonder why Knill did the after match interview?

I would imagine it’s because he doesn’t want to face the media saying he’s delighted with the win etc, for his ‘rant’ to keep working he needs to keep an aura of still being fucked off, at least till after the Burton game

 

[Rusty]

Metcalf?


He's a bit of a Bobby Dazzler

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If ever a photo screamed out "Wednesdayite" it's this one.

Question for 'Silverfox & Foxy'...Didn't this guy used to play cricket with us many moons ago? Paul?

 

[super_pig]

Did they? Maybe it just looked like they turned because Reading didn't show? Be thankful for 3 points but it didn't sound that good on the radio regardless how much spin they put on it. Waiting for the highlights

who are 'they' you keep referring to ??

 

[super_pig]

I bet there are supporters nationwide who are wondering why their manager can't talk as openly and without any inhibition.

a number of people were mightily impressed with his straight talk up here in Scotland.. 3 Rangers. two Celtic and two ICT.. oh and a Sunderland. poor lad

 

[sheffielder]

who are 'they' you keep referring to ??

And the be thankful, shouldn’t that be we should be thankful

 

[S26Dave]

I went to school with Metcalfe, the turncoat pig used to go Utd games when at Meynell middle school. After reading some of his posts on Porktalk he's turned into a proper full weight piggy bellend!