Wilders next moves.....

[Sean Thornton]

I don't think anyone did but when you get sell on clauses like we've had off the Walker and Maguire deals on top of a budget that we already had then I can see why people are bringing up the issue of not spending enough.

At the end of the day it doesn't matter how much we spend as long as we get the right players in.

I was going to say plenty did but the reality for some is to pretend they were taken round the corner by McCabe. Gullible is the word I think.

I've posted earlier that the sell on money has been earmarked for break even, increased wages on promotion and what he have spent already and that it appears since the beginning of the new financial year , there seems to be next to nothing extra invested. Hugely disappointing after the promise about the Prince but still a few days left for that. If we spend £10 m next week, the same people would be saying it's not enough, covering all bases as usual.

 

[Barney]

Not at the levels some people seem to expect. In fact nowhere near that level. Do you? .

No. Precisely why I was asking someone who posted "bullshit" in reply to someone stating that they didn't think so either.

 

[Sean Thornton]

I didn't. That Jam Tomorrow stuff Phipps fed us when the Prince came in was never believable.

There won't be such funds, I assume, whilst the present regime remains in place. Be interesting to see how it all pans out. I think Wilder will keep us comfortably mid table barring many injuries (we've already been unlucky

with Moore and Stearman and of course Baldock is playing the Lavery role of new signing who's not fit to play). Stay healthy, Billy.

Never thought you did and I agree that big spending looks unlikely, which will cost even more Goodwill.

These days even after a win the moaners are out.

 

[wizadry]

I was going to say plenty did but the reality for some is to pretend they were taken round the corner by McCabe. Gullible is the word I think.

I've posted earlier that the sell on money has been earmarked for break even, increased wages on promotion and what he have spent already and that it appears since the beginning of the new financial year , there seems to be next to nothing extra invested. Hugely disappointing after the promise about the Prince but still a few days left for that. If we spend £10 m next week, the same people would be saying it's not enough, covering all bases as usual.

If we spend anywhere near £10M then I will be ecstatic, only if the players are any good.

 

[Sean Thornton]

No. Precisely why I was asking someone who posted "bullshit" in reply to someone stating that they didn't think so either.

Rodley highlighted the bit about clinging on to power.

Stating the owners are Clinging on to power and spunking millions each year rather than look for investment clearly is bullshit.

 

[JayGreen17]

The fact is far less attractive propositions than the Blades have attracted very rich new owners and big investment. Even the dingles - a club half our size and with far less potential - are now being linked with big Chinese investment.

McCabe and the Prince are clearly incapable of providing the investment needed to take us forward. Unfortunately it seems they would rather cling onto power than actively seek the new owners and/or investment we need.

We are one of the few "big" clubs remaining in this league to attract major investment....don't be surprised now we are here that potential buyers come out of the woodwork, whether macabre wants to sell is another matter, he wants the investment without selling the club, the more likely scenario is the prince sells his half to an investor.

Problem with this is that we will eventually lose our best asset in Wilder if either Mcabe doesn't put in, or investment doesn't come forward.

This is without a doubt our best chance to get back to the prem, I'm not talking mega bucks either. Wilder could do it on 10-15m, Mcabe an HRH need to show intent and stop with the lip service about being ambitious, well show us the!

The fans also need to stop talking this down too, all too many fans have settled and seem grateful with our current position....yes promotion is great back to this league and yes we are entering into adjustment mode, but we then need to kick on, like Wilder said he doesnt do Ok, the mans a winner, it's about time the board and to a lesser degree the fans get on board with him.

Wilder could be our Ferguson...believe!


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[Barney]

Rodley highlighted the bit about clinging on to power.

And the bit about McCabe and the Prince being incapable of providing the investment needed.

 

[Sean Thornton]

And the bit about McCabe and the Prince being incapable of providing the investment needed.

I think most agree with that as things stand. But he highlighted the bit I mentioned. Which I think was his point.

 

[Barney]

I think most agree with that as things stand. But he highlighted the bit I mentioned. Which I think was his point.

Highlighting both statements would suggest he disagrees with both statements, I was just taking issue with his disagreement of Deano's first statement that was all, because like you I agreed with it. But anyway I fear we're straying into semantics

 

[stringer]

We are one of the few "big" clubs remaining in this league to attract major investment....don't be surprised now we are here that potential buyers come out of the woodwork, whether macabre wants to sell is another matter, he wants the investment without selling the club, the more likely scenario is the prince sells his half to an investor.

Problem with this is that we will eventually lose our best asset in Wilder if either Mcabe doesn't put in, or investment doesn't come forward.

This is without a doubt our best chance to get back to the prem, I'm not talking mega bucks either. Wilder could do it on 10-15m, Mcabe an HRH need to show intent and stop with the lip service about being ambitious, well show us the!

The fans also need to stop talking this down too, all too many fans have settled and seem grateful with our current position....yes promotion is great back to this league and yes we are entering into adjustment mode, but we then need to kick on, like Wilder said he doesnt do Ok, the mans a winner, it's about time the board and to a lesser degree the fans get on board with him.

Wilder could be our Ferguson...believe!


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Genuine question. What's the thinking behind the statement 'Wilder could get us promoted with £10-15m'?

 

[Harrisblade]

they buy into the mantra that spending = success.. ipswich bought one player.. the right one

Is that the one that many on these boards advised nit to touch with a beanpole?

 

[Rodley]

You think McCabe and the Prince are capable of providing the investment needed to take us forward?

I think that's a question I'll be more likely to be contemplating seriously if we've not progressed from lower mid table after 2-3 seasons, not after a handful of matches back in the Championship before our first transfer window has shut.

 

[JayGreen17]

I genuinely believe that it wouldn't take the 40, 50. 60m that other clubs are laying out to try and have a crack at the top 6 with Wilder.

I have complete belief that wilder could have a tilt at promotion with 15m, the way he develops "team" ethics and installs a togetherness, a few quality signings could get us in the top 6, then who knows.....,my opinion.

 

[Harrisblade]

Tufty can and will spend millions before the end of the month, if the players he wants become available. Contrary to Bladey belief, you can't kidnap them at gunpoint and drive them to the Lane blindfold in the boot of a Mercedes.

But wasn't that how we got rid of Hammond?

 

[Sean Thornton]

Is that the one that many on these boards advised nit to touch with a beanpole?

Wilders being accused of having nits now?

 

[Blade58]

If we spend anywhere near £10M then I will be ecstatic, only if the players are any good.

if we spend £10m in the next couple of weeks can someone pick me up from the floor cos I'll have fainted

 

[Sean Thornton]

Genuine question. What's the thinking behind the statement 'Wilder could get us promoted with £10-15m'?

I asked you a question about fees last week and bumped it twice. Even though you had again posted on the thread.

It was after you told someone they were wrong about fees.

 

[Pinchy]

The fact is far less attractive propositions than the Blades have attracted very rich new owners and big investment. Even the dingles - a club half our size and with far less potential - are now being linked with big Chinese investment.

McCabe and the Prince are clearly incapable of providing the investment needed to take us forward. Unfortunately it seems they would rather cling onto power than actively seek the new owners and/or investment we need.

You go get them, then.

 

[1066blade]

I think as good as CWs signings have been I do think the more often he buys lower league players the odds of it all working get longer.

 

[Seano1988]

in the transfer market are going to be so critical. (Obviously).

But with Clarke out for 3, hasnson not in the plan, Stearman out until October, ched not match fit, Caruthers struggling at this level our squad is looking a bit threadbare and the backup players like Ludstam a bit wanting (admitted he not had much pitch time but his transfer was without protestations from the sellers).

If he brings in more mediocre you to plug the gaps we will be building a squad of average players on 2/3 year deals clogging up the buying of better players.

I think his next moves will be for a couple quick loans and any star buys will G et put off until JTW by which time McCabe will hope we've all forgotten about the Liverpool investment and he can start blaming it on lack of new investors.

He needs to decide If we are a little club now looking at the new cash rich clubs or one of the new clubs in the new world of high finance and risk clubs and then stay or sell ASAP.

Not sure how you can say Carruthers isn't suited to this level. He's the most underrated player we've got. Man of the match against Brentford and didnt even get a mention. He might not be hollywood but he's tricky around the box and can put a tackle in when needed. Obviously my opinion but we need players like that in the championship without question

 

[Esablade]

I've posted earlier that the sell on money has been earmarked for break even, increased wages on promotion and what he have spent already and that it appears since the beginning of the new financial year ,

..did Scott McCabe or Jim Phipps tell you this?

 

[Fraggle Blade]

they buy into the mantra that spending = success.. ipswich bought one player.. the right one

it's easy saying that Cardiff have only spent £5 million and are top of the league...but that's 5 mill on top of all the other millions they have spent over the past few seasons.......just a top up.
We are basically starting from scratch in championship terms. It will take us some time before we can only spend a few million and challenge at the top, unless we get a perfect alignement of the stars and planets.

 

[Blade56]

Not sure how you can say Carruthers isn't suited to this level. He's the most underrated player we've got. Man of the match against Brentford and didnt even get a mention. He might not be hollywood but he's tricky around the box and can put a tackle in when needed. Obviously my opinion but we need players like that in the championship without question

Not saying he's not good enough for this level.

What I'm getting at is whatever Tufty wants from him in the tactics isn't working hence Duffy starting. Interesting Duffy played his normal holding and distributing a bit like Wood did for Brentford. He's obviously not giving the same role to Caruthers so maybe it's a tactical issue CW is struggling to implement.

 

[Norderner]

I asked you a question about fees last week and bumped it twice. Even though you had again posted on the thread.

It was after you told someone they were wrong about fees.

The busy bastard thinks he's clever coming on here dropping a few bombs before realising if he backs his big mouth up, he's technically out of a job? Through no fault of his own he's nothing more than paid a club lackey, or else?

 

[nicksufc]

in the transfer market are going to be so critical. (Obviously).

But with Clarke out for 3, hasnson not in the plan, Stearman out until October, ched not match fit, Caruthers struggling at this level our squad is looking a bit threadbare and the backup players like Ludstam a bit wanting (admitted he not had much pitch time but his transfer was without protestations from the sellers).

If he brings in more mediocre you to plug the gaps we will be building a squad of average players on 2/3 year deals clogging up the buying of better players.

I think his next moves will be for a couple quick loans and any star buys will G et put off until JTW by which time McCabe will hope we've all forgotten about the Liverpool investment and he can start blaming it on lack of new investors.

He needs to decide If we are a little club now looking at the new cash rich clubs or one of the new clubs in the new world of high finance and risk clubs and then stay or sell ASAP.

That's an impressive amount of nonsense you've crammed into one post

 

[Blade56]

That's an impressive amount of nonsense you've crammed into one post

Please elaborate, can't get enough of your forum contributions.

 

[JohnDenver]

I think that's a question I'll be more likely to be contemplating seriously if we've not progressed from lower mid table after 2-3 seasons, not after a handful of matches back in the Championship before our first transfer window has shut.

It's about improving window on window. It took Warnock three seasons before mounting a challenge in 2003. That's not unreasonable. Buying a promotion push in one window is.

 

[blade too long]

won 2 home games conceded none
unlucky to be robbed of a point at boro by a poor decision
out played top of the pile cardiff for long periods



hardly desperate times


let him incrementally make us better like he did last august

the way some go on on here youd think we look dreadful and are a team of hammonds

 

[blade too long]

I think as good as CWs signings have been I do think the more often he buys lower league players the odds of it all working get longer.

what like huddersfield did
did they spend big on proven players

 

[Fulwood Blade]

Not saying he's not good enough for this level.

What I'm getting at is whatever Tufty wants from him in the tactics isn't working hence Duffy starting. Interesting Duffy played his normal holding and distributing a bit like Wood did for Brentford. He's obviously not giving the same role to Caruthers so maybe it's a tactical issue CW is struggling to implement.

Agree with you here - Duffy is better at holding the ball up in midfield - Sami is more of player looking to pick a lock in and around the 18 yard box.

For me, Boro and Cardiff have shown we MUST hold the ball up in the opponents half and for sure Duffy never hides away from doing this. Sami appears a bit lost in that role. The ball didn't stick up top v Boro/Cardiff yet it was better v Barnsley even if we were at home and inferior opponents. If the forwards can't or will not hold the ball up then reckon we will now see more of Duffy than Sami. Perhaps rolls reversed now: Duffy to start for 60/65 mins to be replaced by Brooks or Sami.

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