Wilder OUT

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Le bris was actually a fairly unknown quantity before Sunderland. Had one good season and one shit in ligue 1 and was sacked after getting relegated with Lorient. You could argue even selles had a similar pedigree to him (particularly in English football) before joining us. Sunderland also sold Jack Clarke to Ipswich in the summer before 24/25. They have rich owners who have spent in the premier league yes but they didn’t buy promotion.

But Le Bris wouldn't have done the job he's done with them, with us, because - and I know I'm repeating myself here - of the ownership situation.

And I know they sold Clarke - virtually all clubs sell their better players. It's who you replace them with that counts.

In my original reply to Moody, I would have been better to make the point that we don't have Sunderland's owners, rather than focussing on the budget, because, although the budget's important, I think the nous in knowing how to run a football club is every bit as important as the budget, if not more so. At the moment, Sunderland have both and we have neither, and fans whining on here, "I want to be like Sunderland" ain't gonna change that.
 
"Usual melt" here.
What the fuck did you expect???
He's proved over the last few years that he's a crap coach, a terrible tactician, and he's completely certain to throw the players under the bus to cover up his own negative, turgid playing style and boring game plan. He's also filled the club with his useless, wage-stealing stooges, like fucking Hoyland, who have made him nearly unsackable.
Of course we are all grateful for the job he did when he first came in. They were great years but they are gone, and all we are left with is this pathetic shell of a manager and his out-dated ideas and massive ' its not my fault' ego.
Still.......we might stay up this season and the 'cult of Wilder will rejoice. 🤣🤣🤣
Enjoy!

utb
 
I don’t think I’ve been as bored at a match than watching that turgid shit today. There’s oil tankers presently in the Straights of Hormuz that have moved quicker recently than Peck and Rothwell. Have we ever had midfielders as slow as those two? We’re crying out for a change of direction, it’s painful. If a non United fan asked me what our style of play was I honestly couldn’t tell them. No wonder Brookes wanted to piss off. He saw the writing on the wall alright. Overreaction after one game? I don’t think so. My god, this is going to be one hard, boring, tedious season.
 
Didn’t watch the match as on holiday but it sounds a typical start of the season match.

We need to get to the end of the window and see where the squad is at before we truly know what we are dealing with.

However, we are effectively in turmoil behind the scenes - owners in court for non-payment of £35m to the Prince, loss of parachute payments, £22m net owed on transfers etc.

For me, as things currently stand we need to lower expectations to hope for a solid but un-spectacular season.

Not an inspiring message ahead of the new season but I fear one bad move from the owners could see us relegated, it’s happened to plenty of teams once parachute payments have gone.

I agree Wilder isn’t what he used to be and I don’t like it when his ego shows itself, but in the situation we are in he’s solid enough to do the job I think we need this season.
 

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