Wilder & Baldock

[ISZA ⚔️]

Any footage of whatever it was what happened?

 

[JT89]

There will be some on the Behind The Blades video when it's out on Youtube, you won't be able to tell what's being said though because the video be really slow, then randomly really fast, then even slower.

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

There will be some on the Behind The Blades video when it's out on Youtube, you won't be able to tell what's being said though because the video be really slow, then randomly really fast, then even slower.

I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who was confused by last weeks video. No insight at all other than a slow version of a game I saw live

 

[mattbianco1]

There will be some on the Behind The Blades video when it's out on Youtube, you won't be able to tell what's being said though because the video be really slow, then randomly really fast, then even slower.

I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who was confused by last weeks video. No insight at all other than a slow version of a game I saw live

Oh wow. I'd not seen that until now. That's the worst behind the blades we've ever done

 

[JT89]

Oh wow. I'd not seen that until now. That's the worst behind the blades we've ever done

The behind the blades videos are my favourite bit of content the club produce to be honest, hopefully they go back to the same style as last season with more of the pre/post match stuff as well

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

Oh wow. I'd not seen that until now. That's the worst behind the blades we've ever done

My favourite one was when McBurnie was slagging off Scotland saying he didn't want to be called up. Those were the days! (for us & him)

 

[Stanthemanfan]

Why have they put this slow motion crap on it? Just bloody leave it as it was ffs

 

[CaptainMorgans]

Has the T Campbell already left?
Would probably explain the drop-off in quality.

 

[Ainsley Harriott]

Why have they put this slow motion crap on it? Just bloody leave it as it was ffs

It's cos the guy who was doing the content before has jacked it in. Now using Kev cooksons iPhone.

 

[Scarebus]

Wilder was just telling Baldock that he saw Richard Cadette at Endcliffe park.

 

[Overthehills]

I’m oblivious to anything re: wilder and baldock… summat gu’off like?

 

[Bladesman]

I’m oblivious to anything re: wilder and baldock… summat gu’off like?

They had an argument by the touchline during the match.

 

[CaptainMorgans]

Baldock was flying into tackles, getting involved in push & shove matches all in front of Wilder. Presume he said something and Baldock gave him some back.
I don't think it goes much further than that.

I do get the impression some of our players hold some sort of grudge with him though. Maybe linked to lording himself with the praise during our ascent and burying the players during our descent? I doubt many of them appreciated being called "over-performing Championship / League 1 players" by him.

 

[JackSUFC]

I do get the impression some of our players hold some sort of grudge with him though. Maybe linked to lording himself with the praise during our ascent and burying the players during our descent? I doubt many of them appreciated being called "over-performing Championship / League 1 players" by him.

I thought that too. The way he left them in the shit during his last season in charge must have left a sour taste.

 

[Bladesman]

Baldock was flying into tackles, getting involved in push & shove matches all in front of Wilder. Presume he said something and Baldock gave him some back.
I don't think it goes much further than that.

I do get the impression some of our players hold some sort of grudge with him though. Maybe linked to lording himself with the praise during our ascent and burying the players during our descent? I doubt many of them appreciated being called "over-performing Championship / League 1 players" by him.

JOC still seemed to have a lot of praise for him if the pre-match show was anything to go by. According to him he said Wilder wouldn't be afraid to give you a rollicking directly to your face.

 

[LondonBlade89]

Baldock was flying into tackles, getting involved in push & shove matches all in front of Wilder. Presume he said something and Baldock gave him some back.
I don't think it goes much further than that.

I do get the impression some of our players hold some sort of grudge with him though. Maybe linked to lording himself with the praise during our ascent and burying the players during our descent? I doubt many of them appreciated being called "over-performing Championship / League 1 players" by him.

Whoever was at the ground on 5 Live made it sound like some major argument had gone off, beyond the usual giving it to each other. He might have been making something out of nothing though.

Agree with you on Wilder. He did amazingly for us and helped create a great atmosphere and togetherness among the squad but it never felt like it really went beyond that in terms of building a genuine connection with his players aside from "you do a good job for me on the pitch, fit in with the lads, don't cause too much of a fuss and you'll stay in my good books". The Wilder and Billy Sharp relationship always felt a bit uneasy. I'll always love Chris Wilder for everything he did, so hopefully my words aren't taken in the wrong way here. Just saying it how I saw it.

 

[ChappyAppleBlade]

I liked Wilder's tactic during yesterday's match to stand really close to the edge of the Utd technical area, give it large, cause a reaction and then scamper back to his seat in the front row of the dugout.

We loved it when he was here but he truly is the king of Shithousery.

Also I'm assuming he's given up running and started baking.

 

[Champagneblade]

They had an argument by the touchline during the match.

Since George’s international call up, Wilder was probably warning him to stay away from his crockery!

 

[Nedski]

The Wilder and Billy Sharp relationship always felt a bit uneasy

Agreed, despite being his captain I'm not sure they had anything other than a professional relationship. They obviously celebrated the promotions together but I'm not convinced they ever saw eye to eye. Bringing James Wilson on against the pigs in the 0-0 was either the start of it or a major part of it.

 

[JT89]

Agreed, despite being his captain I'm not sure they had anything other than a professional relationship. They obviously celebrated the promotions together but I'm not convinced they ever saw eye to eye. Bringing James Wilson on against the pigs in the 0-0 was either the start of it or a major part of it.

I'm not sure how many managers/players do have much more than professional relationships, the same as in every work place - obviously some players form friendships with other players at various clubs they've played at etc. but I don't think it would he a general think that the whole squad are mates outside work.

I'm sure Knill once said in an interview him/Wilder never/rarely socialise together, but obviously have a big appreciation for each others work in a professional sense.

 

[LondonBlade89]

I'm not sure how many managers/players do have much more than professional relationships, the same as in every work place - obviously some players form friendships with other players at various clubs they've played at etc. but I don't think it would he a general think that the whole squad are mates outside work.

I'm sure Knill once said in an interview him/Wilder never/rarely socialise together, but obviously have a big appreciation for each others work in a professional sense.

Very true. And that's totally fine of course. I'm definitely not suggesting they should all be mates, but it is interesting that after being on such a journey very few players appear to be particularly close to Wilder.

 

[JT89]

Very true. And that's totally fine of course. I'm definitely not suggesting they should all be mates, but it is interesting that after being on such a journey very few players appear to be particularly close to Wilder.

I guess some of the friendships/respect they built during the good run could easily have been undone if some of the players felt let down or disrespected by things said by Wilder towards the end - once he left the group of players were still in it together, so would have been easy for their to be a us vs him mentality between the players & Wilder...

But then, we could be looking far too deep into this and it could have been a heat of the moment thing, Baldock does look like he could get angry with his own shadow at times.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Wilder started it by calling Baldock a big girl's blouse.

George hit straight back with the classic, "I know you are, but what am I?".

Wilder then took it too far by threatening to thump him in the tummy.

All pretty nasty and a bit upsetting if you ask me.

 

[BushBlade]

Very true. And that's totally fine of course. I'm definitely not suggesting they should all be mates, but it is interesting that after being on such a journey very few players appear to be particularly close to Wilder.

I don’t think it’s wise for a manager to get too close to players. It makes it much harder to drop them, or discipline them and has the potential to cause cliques.

That’s why it’s difficult when a player becomes manager at the club he plays for. When Southgate became manager of Boro, he told the players they had to call him gaffer and couldn’t call him “Gate” anymore. Ray Parlour apparently said “what about Big Nose, can we still call you that?”

 

[BushBlade]

Wilder started it by calling Baldock a big girl's blouse.

George hit straight back with the classic, "I know you are, but what am I?".

Wilder then took it too far by threatening to thump him in the tummy.

All pretty nasty and a bit upsetting if you ask me.

I heard Wilder called him Baldcock.

 

[Carlton Blade]

Whoever was at the ground on 5 Live made it sound like some major argument had gone off, beyond the usual giving it to each other. He might have been making something out of nothing though.

Agree with you on Wilder. He did amazingly for us and helped create a great atmosphere and togetherness among the squad but it never felt like it really went beyond that in terms of building a genuine connection with his players aside from "you do a good job for me on the pitch, fit in with the lads, don't cause too much of a fuss and you'll stay in my good books". The Wilder and Billy Sharp relationship always felt a bit uneasy. I'll always love Chris Wilder for everything he did, so hopefully my words aren't taken in the wrong way here. Just saying it how I saw it.

I have always thought that he aims to make things slightly uncomfortable for everyone involved. I would assume that's where he thinks the best performances come from and it's hard to argue with the results. Although I've compared him to Conte in the past and I think it still stands. Any more than 2 or 3 seasons in the same job and the little tricks will start to become irritating I imagine

 

[S64 Blade]

Why have they put this slow motion crap on it? Just bloody leave it as it was ffs

Whenever‘s filming it are going to discover the boomerang app on their phone soon, aren’t they and we’ll have to watch the ball going in and out of our net multiple times, when we lose to a last minute goal.

 

[The Crab]

I guess some of the friendships/respect they built during the good run could easily have been undone if some of the players felt let down or disrespected by things said by Wilder towards the end - once he left the group of players were still in it together, so would have been easy for their to be a us vs him mentality between the players & Wilder...

But then, we could be looking far too deep into this and it could have been a heat of the moment thing, Baldock does look like he could get angry with his own shadow at times.

As others have said, Wilder is the king of shithousery. Could be something as some as personal comment triggering George as CW knows a triggered George would help them?

 

[JT89]

I don’t think it’s wise for a manager to get too close to players. It makes it much harder to drop them, or discipline them and has the potential to cause cliques.

That’s why it’s difficult when a player becomes manager at the club he plays for. When Southgate became manager of Boro, he told the players they had to call him gaffer and couldn’t call him “Gate” anymore. Ray Parlour apparently said “what about Big Nose, can we still call you that?”

We seem to have the opposite currently, the players all seem to use "Hecky" when talking about him in interviews etc

I guess that comes down to different personalities and management styles, there's no right/wrong way.

In terms of dropping players or criticism, the best managers know how do those things depending on the player - some players would respond to a verbal bollocking by going out and being better to prove a point, while others would be shit scared of making another mistake and go into their shell, all about knowing which players to treat in which ways.

 

[Whiston Blade]

I heard Wilder called him Baldcock.

But only because Baldock called CW a backdoor bandit.