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Fuck me. 10 points clear with a game in hand.
Coasting? Weak willed? WTAF?
It's like the Championship is a piece of piss if any players decided to try.
Why has our creativity dropped off?
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Coasting? Weak willed? WTAF?
It's like the Championship is a piece of piss if any players decided to try.
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The original post is why has creative suddenly become a problem lately, when it wasn't earlier in the season. Not whether we are second in the league or not.
Creativity, confidence and entertainment have definitely become a problem whether you see it or not
And nobody said the players aren't trying, if anything they're working even harder than they were, but they have to work harder because they're turning every game into a scrappy mess
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I am a bit of a bedwetter and thought yesterday was a bit pants, but at the same time we’ve lost summat like one in the last fourteen and are 10 points clear in second place. There are always wobbles in promotion seasons, our current one barely qualifies next to 2005/2006 or even the failed Whitehurst experiment in 1989/1990.
We might still bugger it up, but that’s just us.
We might still bugger it up, but that’s just us.
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As an aside, I watched Forest v Leeds today. MGW is fucking brilliant.
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We have pretty much the same squad that we’re taking teams apart in the first half of the season.
Even average teams like QPR and Rotherham can use our MO as a template to neutralize our strengths, and set up to attack our weaknesses.
Injuries make little difference to our basic game plan and tactics. This a real test for PH and his reading of every game.
He has a bad habit of bringing off players who can turn a game, like McBurnie,NDiaye and McAtee for example. Gives them too much protection (resting) when they just want to play and make a difference.
Time to give the stars a chance to shine. These flair players probably know they will get hooked after 70 minutes and play accordingly. Such a waste at a key time of the season.
Even average teams like QPR and Rotherham can use our MO as a template to neutralize our strengths, and set up to attack our weaknesses.
Injuries make little difference to our basic game plan and tactics. This a real test for PH and his reading of every game.
He has a bad habit of bringing off players who can turn a game, like McBurnie,NDiaye and McAtee for example. Gives them too much protection (resting) when they just want to play and make a difference.
Time to give the stars a chance to shine. These flair players probably know they will get hooked after 70 minutes and play accordingly. Such a waste at a key time of the season.
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McBurnie getting injured is a big factor.
Approaching the world cup we were decent to watch. After the world cup we've had to grind results out.
McBurnie offers more than Sharp and Jebbison. Offers a totally different game too. He can get stuck in for the fight, win headers etc. But its his dropping deep to link, or hold up play that sets him apart.
Hoping his full fitness isn't far away
Approaching the world cup we were decent to watch. After the world cup we've had to grind results out.
McBurnie offers more than Sharp and Jebbison. Offers a totally different game too. He can get stuck in for the fight, win headers etc. But its his dropping deep to link, or hold up play that sets him apart.
Hoping his full fitness isn't far away
I was thinking this against Rotherham and previous games.
We start off like a steroid dosed steam train, then either score and sit back or go all out for a draw,
We seem to often have all 10 outfield players in our half, meaning we are parking the bus even when not leading a game , maybe looking at a breakaway goal.
But our strength really seems to be when we attack, pushing them back, playing in their half, yet we don't seem to press as often as we used to.
We allow them to press us as we drop deeper and deeper, with such as Norwood playing as a 4th central defender.
It's almost like the team remit is don't lose.
Very odd mentality for a team with so much attacking ability.
We start off like a steroid dosed steam train, then either score and sit back or go all out for a draw,
We seem to often have all 10 outfield players in our half, meaning we are parking the bus even when not leading a game , maybe looking at a breakaway goal.
But our strength really seems to be when we attack, pushing them back, playing in their half, yet we don't seem to press as often as we used to.
We allow them to press us as we drop deeper and deeper, with such as Norwood playing as a 4th central defender.
It's almost like the team remit is don't lose.
Very odd mentality for a team with so much attacking ability.
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Fallowfield Fact
Most, if not all, of your 'bang average' performances are actually wins or draws, and we are unbeaten in the EFL in eight games, stretching back to the beginning of November, and only beaten by more than one goal once all season and losing one game in thirteen. Not bad by anyones measure, except yours.
Does that mean anything to you, when you spout your bollocks about failed Premier League manager Hassenwhatever? Figure this: He left Southampton in exactly the same position as Wilder did us, two years ago. Let that sink in, like most of the unFallowfield Facts you choose to ignore because for an odd reason, you don't like the manager who has us several points clear in the automatics. If you think Hassenhutl will improve our situation over Heckingbottom, give us your UEFA A qualified breakdown as to how. What changes would he make, what tactics did he use at St Mary's which were so effective and productive (that left the Saints adrift at the foot of the table and still struggling) that would pay dividends with our set of players and would improve on not being beaten since November. C'mon. Actual footballing, Fallowfield Facts in a structured, Bergen Blade breakdown which shows you've studied Southampton's game and feel that individual (named) players would play better under him with Heckingbottom mysteriously, suddenly sacked and replaced by a manager with a proven failure record. I know you can't, because for you, this game is like FIFA23 isn't it? You're about as qualified to make team selections and strategic statements as I am to talk to the Women's Institute about East Coast Hip-Hop.
Do yourself (let alone the forum as a representative mouthpiece of the supporting body) a massive favour and shut the fuck up. You are starting to become both tiresome and embarrassing. I'd hate to think what the fuck other supporters see when they happen across here. Can you imagine an alternate Roygbiv Board with Fallowfield's weekly dump posted up to laugh at?
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Loss of MGW is a big factor running with the ball and inter play with Illiman
Sharpe is poor, hardly any effect apart from effort
Lack of pace down the middle
Injuries, long term to too many players has caused non stop team changes and disruption then getting players fit again
Teams setting up different this season, to stop our midfield domination
Missed loads of chances to kill teams off
Sharpe is poor, hardly any effect apart from effort
Lack of pace down the middle
Injuries, long term to too many players has caused non stop team changes and disruption then getting players fit again
Teams setting up different this season, to stop our midfield domination
Missed loads of chances to kill teams off
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We are in 2nd gear.
We play better against the better teams where there is real jeopardy. We are so in control against the weaker teams.
Chill out.
We play better against the better teams where there is real jeopardy. We are so in control against the weaker teams.
Chill out.
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The performances against Swansea and more importantly Boro will be revealing, because these results will effectively define the season from here on.
The team need to be very fired up and get the crowd going for both fixtures.
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if either doyle or mcatee are fit we have to play one of em in the home games with swansea and boro we cannot put osborn in again its like playing with one less in midfield would sooner play basham or coulibally in there osborn gives us nothing
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Ralph hassenhutl has more managerial ability in his big toe than Paul heckingbottom does
And the above form you can probably apply to every single football manager who has managed a team in the bottom half of the premier league
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Again Portsmouth I’m not saying the results haven’t been great because they have
It’s the performances they have been bang average and that of a lower mid table team
As I’ve said good performances will only last so long with poor performances which may be starting to creap in
If it wasn’t for berge/Ndiaye/mcburnie/Anel/Norwood we wouldn’t even have those results
As for hassenhutl he did a great job at Southampton considering they sell all there saleable assets every transfer window
And he would fit our club style of play perfectly , 5 at the back fast attacking football
Unlike Heckyball slow boring and uninspiring football
All I’m saying is if you think Gareth Southgatebottom is good enough to manage us in the Prem you’re more deluded than your sander berge ratings
As a club we very rarely get a shot at the prem why let a sub standard manager have a shot which we get once every 10/15 years on average
That’s all I’m saying it’s my opinion the manager is nowhere near good enough and a lot more people on here now seem to agree with that
Maybe it’s because I’m ahead of the curve as I do have a UEFA A license coaching badge
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blade too long
we go again
Stats mainly the league table shows we are showing enough creativity than 22 other teams in scoring more goals and taking more points
Not all teams that play play pretty tippy tippy football win games
We are where we are mainly due to some top defensive work allied to the fact we score the winning goal in most games
Long may it continue
Take a good look at all our goals .they involve a lot of creativity well enough to win games
blade too long
we go again
Good argument .we win games because e have better players.....well who is coaching them and getting them to win games they didn't do before Hecky cameAgain Portsmouth I’m not saying the results haven’t been great because they have
It’s the performances they have been bang average and that of a lower mid table team
As I’ve said good performances will only last so long with poor performances which may be starting to creap in
If it wasn’t for berge/Ndiaye/mcburnie/Anel/Norwood we wouldn’t even have those results
As for hassenhutl he did a great job at Southampton considering they sell all there saleable assets every transfer window
And he would fit our club style of play perfectly , 5 at the back fast attacking football
Unlike Heckyball slow boring and uninspiring football
All I’m saying is if you think Gareth Southgatebottom is good enough to manage us in the Prem you’re more deluded than your sander berge ratings
As a club we very rarely get a shot at the prem why let a sub standard manager have a shot which we get once every 10/15 years on average
That’s all I’m saying it’s my opinion the manager is nowhere near good enough and a lot more people on here now seem to agree with that
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If it wasn't for, lists half the fucking squad!, we wouldn't even have those results. Is it just me??
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Chris wilder as these are his tactics
Just without the intensity & consistency of performance
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Haven’t been online up to now since the match, so going back to the original question: I thought we were creative on Saturday. However, on the end of nearly everything was Bogle. He was brilliant at getting into so many different positions, threatening ones, yet frustratingly, consistently, profligate. Having a few different players on the end of these moves, is what I would be looking for in increased creativity.
Midfield is the big issue regarding our performances. We have been wining games which demonstrates resilience but due how we set up in midfield and who we have playing, we struggle to link from defence to attack.
Norwood tends to drop deep for the ball and usually the out ball is going to either wing.
Berge can be effective when running at the opposition. But he does drift away from the game quite a bit. Then you have Osborn, McAtee and Doyle. The first one is limited, the second has the ability but can be inconsistent. Doyle can be hit and miss too and appears to be injury prone..
Against Rotherham at times we had players get in each others way in box. At other times the ball was going forward quickly but the midfielders did not get forward to support.
At times we play some good football and at others we look like we never played together before.
Norwood tends to drop deep for the ball and usually the out ball is going to either wing.
Berge can be effective when running at the opposition. But he does drift away from the game quite a bit. Then you have Osborn, McAtee and Doyle. The first one is limited, the second has the ability but can be inconsistent. Doyle can be hit and miss too and appears to be injury prone..
Against Rotherham at times we had players get in each others way in box. At other times the ball was going forward quickly but the midfielders did not get forward to support.
At times we play some good football and at others we look like we never played together before.
I know a couple of Middlesbrough fans , they are confident they are going to pull back the points deficit. Their favourite pastime is reading all things Blades related and can see the panic buttons getting pressed. Just hope it's not getting through to the players.
100% teams have worked United out, trouble is Hecky and his team don't seem able to work out why and just let it happen and HOPE a couple of late subs pay off.
Let's see tomorrow if the management team learnt anything from the first game. Get JLT in and give them some of their own tactics because Wrexham looked as bad as United with long balls into the box. Or do we just go out and play football against them. Can't wait to see which way we go.
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Yes you are. You have said that they are 'bang average'
Nice try. Fail.
Pardon?
So their performances weren't 'bang average'? Or were? Make your fucking mind up.
Yes, Yes he did. Anchored to the foot of the Premier League and facing relegation. They've not recovered either. Well done Ralph
Um. Need a bit more than that, Badg-o. Tell us what differences in tactic RH uses aside from PH. Explain how he would improve things and not expose the central three defenders to concerted midfield pressure like he suffered from at Scumpton and find his team exposed high up the park and really vulnerable to counterattack. Explain also which specific virtues of his style are better than Hecky's given there's three places between his old club and ours and our win rate is way beyond what RHs is. I know FIFA doesn't give you all this insight and you are basically talking out of your japs eye, but outside of Fallowfield World, its what everything rotates around.
But undefeated. It matters.
No. All you're saying is speculative, naive bollocks posted up for a response. I bet you chalked cocks on people's blazers at school too, didn't you?
Because given PHs success rate since he took over
Is better than anyone since the Second World War.
That’s all I’m saying it’s my opinion the manager is nowhere near good enough and a lot more people on here now seem to agree with that
Well, I suggest you haul your fat head out of your well-fucked arse and look at how football is played and the management strategies then figure out why PH is here and not your stupid aspiration to have a failed PL manager in. And why practically no one agrees with you
Maybe it’s because I’m ahead of the curve as I do have a UEFA A license coaching badge
No, you don't. You know nothing about football. There, I've said it. And it's true.
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Seeing similar things, We are not normally keeping possession as much now though. We tend to knock it about at the back then launch it forward, hoping that Mcburnie will get on the end of it. If we do try and play it up the park, we end up just coming back, mostly due to midfielders not moving or Attackers standing still. They obviously get told to play a certain way, but ATM it is causing problems, or at least it appears so from the stands. Need to be more proactive with the ball and not just knock it long.
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Hecky seems to have lost his bottle to me, Reminds me of Wilder when he lost his and seems to be going down the same road. First year in the prem, Wilder was saying in interviews we are Sheffield United and we fear no one. Second season it was how can we compete with the likes of Man Utd. Second season mindset got us relegated.
hecky was like wilder fearing no one first half of the season, now we seem to be set up to defend the point we start the game with again and anything else we get is a bonus, scrappy win and draws.
Needs to get his Mojo back, unleash the players and let them do what there good at,
We should be Sheffield United and we should let the other teams fear us…
…..UTB…..
hecky was like wilder fearing no one first half of the season, now we seem to be set up to defend the point we start the game with again and anything else we get is a bonus, scrappy win and draws.
Needs to get his Mojo back, unleash the players and let them do what there good at,
We should be Sheffield United and we should let the other teams fear us…
…..UTB…..
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I Remember arsenal doing the same and winning shit loads of titles and trophy's .Even the fans sang 1-0 to the arsenalYou’re not wrong
But I’m not wrong I have been saying it for months
And now it’s becoming a majority that see we play boring uninspiring football that nicks 1-0 wins
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Why do you use linebreaks in between every sentence? It's always like looking at a really shitty poem.Again Portsmouth I’m not saying the results haven’t been great because they have
It’s the performances they have been bang average and that of a lower mid table team
As I’ve said good performances will only last so long with poor performances which may be starting to creap in
If it wasn’t for berge/Ndiaye/mcburnie/Anel/Norwood we wouldn’t even have those results
As for hassenhutl he did a great job at Southampton considering they sell all there saleable assets every transfer window
And he would fit our club style of play perfectly , 5 at the back fast attacking football
Unlike Heckyball slow boring and uninspiring football
All I’m saying is if you think Gareth Southgatebottom is good enough to manage us in the Prem you’re more deluded than your sander berge ratings
As a club we very rarely get a shot at the prem why let a sub standard manager have a shot which we get once every 10/15 years on average
That’s all I’m saying it’s my opinion the manager is nowhere near good enough and a lot more people on here now seem to agree with that
Maybe it’s because I’m ahead of the curve as I do have a UEFA A license coaching badge
Generally, Southampton have been uninspiring under Hassenhutl. If you look at their premier league finishes over the past ten years:
14th, 8th, 6th, 8th, 17th, 16th, 11th, 15th, 15th and they currently find themselves in 20th after sacking him early November. (The italicised ones are seasons where he was manager). If you're going on about wanting an ambitious appointment, I fail to see how someone who presided over Southampton declining (and oversaw some catastrophic defeats too) is the right answer.
Regardless of how performances have been in recent weeks, we've been getting results. It's almost impossible to gauge how this team would do in the Premier League because we'd have to completely change our game plan for every fixture; as we wouldn't be going in as favourites for near enough any of them. Being solid defensively is part of the reason why we did so well under Wilder in that first premier league season.
"If it wasn’t for berge/Ndiaye/mcburnie/Anel/Norwood we wouldn’t even have those results" - this is quite possibly the most redundant statement ever. If you take out the spine of any team it would damage them. It's just completely hypothetical drivel. Especially when you've listed nearly half of our strongest starting XI- no shit we'd not be doing as well if they weren't in the team.
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Agree I was disappointed too.....really reminds me of the Gareth Southgate style.
Every interview is so middle of the road....they are almost all the same.
However some would argue this could be a positive. Hecky (unlike Wilder) doesn't show much emotion in public.
When we play well he never goes overboard and when we're poor he doesn't go overboard.
Do agree it's frustrating because I rarely ever learn anything from post match interviews.
Wilder would explain the tactical changes, the substitutions made and explain tactically why we win or lost.
Where as with Hecky it's all very vague, doesn't really make sense, often think why did I bother listening but I never learn ha ha.
In fairness to Hecky maybe he's very different behind closed doors.
Again like Southgate, Hecky does deserve credit for creating an environment where our players are very happy being here, with a great team spirit.
Regards the team...I'm not too worried.
If the criticism is.....we only do enough to prize out narrow wins....then I say....long may it continue.
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