Why doesn't football use TMO?

[Yewsman]

Just about every other sport makes use of TV playbacks to make sure that crucial refereeing decisions are right. Cricket, rugby, tennis, to name but three. How many times do you see goals being allowed where a player was off- side or in our case today disallowed where the player was clearly onside. I am not suggesting that every off-side decision should be reviewed but those which affect actual goals. It is not rocket science and if it means that the correct decision is made everyone surely would be happy. Think we now have it for goal line decisions after years of the football dinosaurs resisting that so let's move to off side goals or no goals.

 

[bartman]

Just about every other sport makes use of TV playbacks to make sure that crucial refereeing decisions are right. Cricket, rugby, tennis, to name but three. How many times do you see goals being allowed where a player was off- side or in our case today disallowed where the player was clearly onside. I am not suggesting that every off-side decision should be reviewed but those which affect actual goals. It is not rocket science and if it means that the correct decision is made everyone surely would be happy. Think we now have it for goal line decisions after years of the football dinosaurs resisting that so let's move to off side goals or no goals.

with the freeze frame that Sky used today it would have been offside. Do we really want a 'stop start ' game. At what point do you draw the line for technology ? An indident like today.....but want about when a striker runs clear from 40 yards out and is wrongly flagged offside ? Every incident could lead to a goal. . I cant see it working

 

[Yewsman]

The Sky analysis was clearly faulty and inaccurate but every other sport can get it accurate so why not football with all its money? It would have to be in limited circumstances where a goal is scored. You are being just like the football dinosaurs.

 

[dazzlingblade]

some go your way some don't but its what i love about football, that bit of controversy, that talking point in the pub after the game, went against us today unfortunately but i just don't see it working in football

 

[blade67]

The Sky analysis was clearly faulty and inaccurate but every other sport can get it accurate so why not football with all its money? It would have to be in limited circumstances where a goal is scored. You are being just like the football dinosaurs.

Perhaps be a us football is so much more fluid than other sports. Is it used in ice hockey, which is equally fluid? Rugby only seem to use it for touchdowns, cricket and american football and tennis are all stop start. Based on sky analysis it was offside, but that was flawed.

 

[Lawrence]

United, the supporters, and listening to CW after match summing up said the players are devastated. If the decision is that close? a 50/50, then it's a goal everyday of the week! I used to be a referee and in my training I was told if you definitely don't see it, you can't give it! The same Lino gave Freeman off side when he was 2 yards on side that tells you something!

 

[Ranmoorblade]

Stop fecking crying his foot was clearly offside, right decision was made.

 

[dazzlingblade]

Perhaps be a us football is so much more fluid than other sports. Is it used in ice hockey, which is equally fluid? Rugby only seem to use it for touchdowns, cricket and american football and tennis are all stop start. Based on sky analysis it was offside, but that was flawed.

its used in ice hockey, just for checking goals, ie is it over the line, did he score with his foot instead of his stick

 

[SB_90]

i was all for it because. cricket tennis rugby nfl it all works seamlessly. but i know doubtful because what i saw at the confed cup was terrible & a shambles at times

 

[blade67]

its used in ice hockey, just for checking goals, ie is it over the line, did he score with his foot instead of his stick

Thanks, I didn't know that. Its the only way I see it working in football to improve things. There are just so many decisions that might affect a goal.

 

[dazzlingblade]

i was all for it because. cricket tennis rugby nfl it all works seamlessly. but i know doubtful because what i saw at the confed cup was terrible & a shambles at times

exactly thing with all those sports its when play is paused anyway, in football you couldn't just stop play there and then to check, the other team could break and score, or the ball could be in play for 5 mins, and how far back do you go, do you check everything in the build up to the possible goal?? cricket checks for no ball, rugby can go back and check for infringements offsides etc, what if the ball had remained in play for 5 minutes before the incident, do you go back and check that whole period of play for fouls that were not given etc??? just cant see how to implement it in football

 

[mancunianblade]

Think people should let this go, If we are honest it wasn't even a free Kick, JOC bought it, I mean fair play to him but it was a weak call in the first place, I am pretty sure we will benefit from a similar decision at some point this season and I very much doubt we will see similar levels of outrage when we are the ones benefiting.

 

[Bladepicker]

Stop fecking crying his foot was clearly offside, right decision was made.

Clearly offside? You that lino's other half or something? He was onside at the time the ball was struck, it was an own goal and even if his foot wanders offside a split second later it is hardly 'clear' nor 'offside'.

Ridiculous troll post.

 

[Ranmoorblade]

Clearly offside? You that lino's other half or something? He was onside at the time the ball was struck, it was an own goal and even if his foot wanders offside a split second later it is hardly 'clear' nor 'offside'.

Ridiculous troll post.

Look at the photo you can see his yellow boot offside. Correct decision sadly.

 

[dazzlingblade]

look at duffy the ball is already off the floor in that pic, at the initial point of contact he was at worst level

 

[Bladepicker]

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Look at the photo you can see his yellow boot offside. Correct decision sadly.

1. Because of the angle you can't see where the Boro players boot is.

2. As you can see the ball has left the ground. That is not the moment the ball was struck. That is more in line with Sky's frame. If you look at the photo of when the ball was struck, he isn't offside.

3. It was an own goal anyway.

So not offside and certainly not 'clearly'.

 

[Bayingblade]

To answer the original question. Because football would rather pay shit footballers shit loads of money before ensuring the game is fair and proving the people who officiate games are incompetent fuckwits. Anyone who has watched the game for any amount of time will know this.

 

[Ranmoorblade]

1. Because of the angle you can't see where the Boro players boot is.

2. As you can see the ball has left the ground. That is not the moment the ball was struck. That is more in line with Sky's frame. If you look at the photo of when the ball was struck, he isn't offside.

3. It was an own goal anyway.

So not offside and certainly not 'clearly'.

We'll agree to disagree and it doesn't matter if it was an own goal as he was interfering with play.

 

[S5Blade]

I think the official line is they don't want to use it as it will disrupt the flow of the game. Constant diving and time wasting is fine, but getting decisions right? Not important

 

[Lawrence]

Think people should let this go, If we are honest it wasn't even a free Kick, JOC bought it, I mean fair play to him but it was a weak call in the first place, I am pretty sure we will benefit from a similar decision at some point this season and I very much doubt we will see similar levels of outrage when we are the ones benefiting.

OK so every team 'buys fouls' and every linesman makes mistakes, but are you sure we are going to get some points back in a similar fashion? 2 games gone and we have had at least 2, maybe 3 goal chalk off because of these so called professional People, held in such high esteem by there employers, the FA think they can do no wrong.
I Know it's a difficult job, but I sit on John street every other week and witness officials; not keeping up with play, not flagging for obvious fouls, hand balls, shirt tugging, you can go On and On and On.
Did the ref see the shirt pulling by Boro at ever corner? the holding of 2 United players during the diss-allowed goal incident? on another United attack when the ref was 10 yard away looking straight at Clark who nearly had his shirt pulled off his back, should Clark have gone down like they do in the Premiership! And did the ref see that it was actualy a diss-allowed OG? NO, so the question is WHY!

 

[Yewsman]

We are never going to get every decision right during a match. Most decisions by a ref or Lino don't result in a goal being allowed or disallowed. A decision like the one v Boro however is likely to completely change the outcome of the game. There is video technology which is available (we have the pundits analysing it within seconds of an incident) so in the circumstances of yesterday why cannot the referee refer it to a video ref or for him to give a ruling using the benefit of video evidence? All the fans want is the correct decision. If the video says the disallowed goal decision was correct we would all accept that. As it is we all feel cheated. As I say they do it in Rugby, cricket, tennis, ice hockey so why not football?

 

[Silent Blade]

We are never going to get every decision right during a match. Most decisions by a ref or Lino don't result in a goal being allowed or disallowed. A decision like the one v Boro however is likely to completely change the outcome of the game. There is video technology which is available (we have the pundits analysing it within seconds of an incident) so in the circumstances of yesterday why cannot the referee refer it to a video ref or for him to give a ruling using the benefit of video evidence? All the fans want is the correct decision. If the video says the disallowed goal decision was correct we would all accept that. As it is we all feel cheated. As I say they do it in Rugby, cricket, tennis, ice hockey so why not football?

Agree. There is more money in football than in Rugby, cricket etc so we should be using TMO. Each team has two challenges to a ref's decision each half

 

[Norderner]

Not forgetting the ref looking straight at Basham's shirt being pulled off from the corner but turning a blind eye? The most blatant case for a penalty ever, but he bottled it, the shithouse.