Who in our current squad would you say is Premier League quality?

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If we get promoted, who from our current squad would you say could make the step up to the Premier League based from this season so far. Even if we don’t get promoted who do you think could live up to the standards of the Premier League?

In my opinion it would be:

Cooper 100%

Hamer 100%

Burrows 50/50

Anel 50/50

Souza 50/50 only because of last season

Peck 75/25 he’s a fighter and I feel like he would be fine 100% as a good squad player

Arblaster 75/25 proved he can play in the Premier League did well and didn’t look too out of place last season

Brooks 50/50

O’Hare 50/50

Seriki 50/50

Tom Davies 50/50

Everyone else in our squad I feel like is simply not good enough to play in the Premier League. What do you reckon?
 

It’s what you are gauging it off. Physically any player can have a decent game look at BBD he scored 6 in a poor Premier League side. It’s consistency is what ultimately we are looking for and that’s the major downfall of our recent promotions. We have a squad that can compete on its day with some but if we don’t win the matches against the lower half of the Premier League we are going to struggle again and there is almost 3 leagues in one now in the Premier League. You have the top 6 that are bar the off season of Spurs and Man United usually write themselves you then have a league of 7-14 any team in this are difficult to play but can be beatable then you have 15-20 which we normally end up in and it’s a lottery. But if for example Leeds and Burnley go up with us if we do, we need to be beating them at least once to stand a chance. Pick up a few wins and draws against 7-14 and see what happens
 
If we get promoted, who from our current squad would you say could make the step up to the Premier League based from this season so far. Even if we don’t get promoted who do you think could live up to the standards of the Premier League?

In my opinion it would be:

Cooper 100%

Hamer 100%

Burrows 50/50

Anel 50/50

Souza 50/50 only because of last season

Peck 75/25 he’s a fighter and I feel like he would be fine 100% as a good squad player

Arblaster 75/25 proved he can play in the Premier League did well and didn’t look too out of place last season

Brooks 50/50

O’Hare 50/50

Seriki 50/50

Tom Davies 50/50

Everyone else in our squad I feel like is simply not good enough to play in the Premier League. What do you reckon?
Hamer
Cooper(Possibly)
Souza (With better players than last time)
Anel(with a better partner)
Arblaster(Providing he comes back the same player)
Peck
O'hare could Possibly make the step up

Burrows not sure
Davies not sure

Seriki as it stands it's a no. Our fans are blinked by his pace, unfortunately he needs to brush up on his defending especially if we did get to the Premiership.

Brooks not sure how you come to 50/50 he's not even that in the Championship, very hit and miss but more miss this season.
 
Cooper, Burrows (though last couple of weeks his stds have dropped a bit), Blaster if he gets his full fitness back, Peck and Cambell if he can stay fit and get back on his finishing run. Could all play in PL for 5 years plus.

Hamer even as our best player is just too wasteful unfortunately, but would do us a job, but not for the long run.

Vini and Anel should be able to, as they have the physicality and technical ability BUT last year they gave up, particularly Vini, and that's why none came in for them, mentally there is a question mark, but in a good team yes.

OHare, could be a bit part, but end product is an issue in this division nevermind the PL, so no.

Serki, needs to be fit so we can see. The very best players just don't get injured very often as they play within themselves.

Moore, if fit could do a job off the bench, but I'd use the money on someone else.

One, in a couple of years hopefully.

Cannon, not seen anything yet, jury not even sat down to judge him.

Tom Davies, behind peck, but experience would help in first year.

So we need at least two new CB, couple of full backs, another MF, and a couple of strikers.

Plus a star man, a Illiman or Gibbs White type. (fucking ryte hard to find and both have been here).

Loans my get us a couple of the key players.

Hope the Yanks have got deep pockets and the question is whether Wilder able to attract them? His last attempt was poor, whether, that was him or the wages not been high enough to attract them, not sure, but get it wrong and you could have a couple of Brewster's 2x 25m and 10m in wages each, is enough to bankrupt us if we don't stay up.

It won't be boring!
 
Hamer
Cooper
Arblaster
Peck
Tom Davies
Vini Souza

These are the only players I can confidently say I think they will step up.

These four potentially:

Anel - Anel has the ability but his mindset holds him back at times and he's a confidence player. Put him in a steady mid table prem side with a decent CB partner and I think he'd slot in seemlessly. Seems to fall apart very quickly or just give up when those around him aren't up to it.

Campbell - Has attributes that make me think he could potentially make it; speed, movement, finishing but his injury record is an obvious concern. His career stats suggest he's a streaky player, and some of his decision making lately hasn't been great. Jury still out on him.

O'Hare - O'Hare is a difficult one, I really do like him and he has a fantastic work rate but I can see him failing to achieve a consistent end product. Worst case for him is he'd be a useful squad player.

Burrows - One of our stand out performers until recently where his form has dipped. Already a good player at Champ level and still young so plenty of room for improvement.

Then two for the future:

Oné - Bags of potential, possesses all the traits required to be a top level striker and still very young. Providing he puts his football first over money and prestige he could go on to have a superb career at the top level.

Seriki - Still very raw but like Oné he has exciting ability. Injuries seem to be a problem for him unfortunately and probably would have hoped to have more games under his belt by the time he was 21.

Not to say none of the others not included couldn't do a job in the PL, but the players above are the ones I think could be integrated into most lower mid table and below squads without much issue.
 
Cooper, Burrows (though last couple of weeks his stds have dropped a bit), Blaster if he gets his full fitness back, Peck and Cambell if he can stay fit and get back on his finishing run. Could all play in PL for 5 years plus.

Hamer even as our best player is just too wasteful unfortunately, but would do us a job, but not for the long run.

Vini and Anel should be able to, as they have the physicality and technical ability BUT last year they gave up, particularly Vini, and that's why none came in for them, mentally there is a question mark, but in a good team yes.

OHare, could be a bit part, but end product is an issue in this division nevermind the PL, so no.

Serki, needs to be fit so we can see. The very best players just don't get injured very often as they play within themselves.

Moore, if fit could do a job off the bench, but I'd use the money on someone else.

One, in a couple of years hopefully.

Cannon, not seen anything yet, jury not even sat down to judge him.

Tom Davies, behind peck, but experience would help in first year.

So we need at least two new CB, couple of full backs, another MF, and a couple of strikers.

Plus a star man, a Illiman or Gibbs White type. (fucking ryte hard to find and both have been here).

Loans my get us a couple of the key players.

Hope the Yanks have got deep pockets and the question is whether Wilder able to attract them? His last attempt was poor, whether, that was him or the wages not been high enough to attract them, not sure, but get it wrong and you could have a couple of Brewster's 2x 25m and 10m in wages each, is enough to bankrupt us if we don't stay up.

It won't be boring!
Have to disagree with you on Hamer, he definitely has the ability to be a regular starter in the PL IMO.
 
If we get promoted, who from our current squad would you say could make the step up to the Premier League based from this season so far. Even if we don’t get promoted who do you think could live up to the standards of the Premier League?

In my opinion it would be:

Cooper 100%

Hamer 100%

Burrows 50/50

Anel 50/50

Souza 50/50 only because of last season

Peck 75/25 he’s a fighter and I feel like he would be fine 100% as a good squad player

Arblaster 75/25 proved he can play in the Premier League did well and didn’t look too out of place last season

Brooks 50/50

O’Hare 50/50

Seriki 50/50

Tom Davies 50/50

Everyone else in our squad I feel like is simply not good enough to play in the Premier League. What do you reckon?
Hamer is the only one.

He would play for an Everton or a bottom 6 side. Excellent player but lacks electric pace what the top sides look for.

The only one I think may have a chance in future is Seriki due to his pace power and he looks so dangerous when he gets going.

Peck & Arblaster are still young and playing in centre midfield is extremely difficult in the Premier League. You can be up against £100m players every week. Arblaster performed excellent against Chelsea’s. But the big long lay out may set him back a year or 2.
 
Just Cooper

Then we have a bunch who are good enough to compete with better players around them. I'd order those something like this....

1. Cooper
2. Tom Davies
3. Hamer
4. Arblaster
5. Peck
6. Souza
7. Seriki
8. Oné
9. Burrows
10. Anel
11. Campbell

About 6 or 7 of those could start without us being a total embarrassment
 
Just Cooper

Then we have a bunch who are good enough to compete with better players around them. I'd order those something like this....

1. Cooper
2. Tom Davies
3. Hamer
4. Arblaster
5. Peck
6. Souza
7. Seriki
8. Oné
9. Burrows
10. Anel
11. Campbell

About 6 or 7 of those could start without us being a total embarrassment
Issue is that team would get less points than Southampton this season.
 
It’s a taken a long time but football fans are now coming to the realisation.

The facts are depressing but it’s good to see from these responses that most people won’t be fooled anymore. The gap is just too big.

As said above basically only cooper is a sure thing but it’s unlikely the rest could make the step up. It’s just a totally unfair game nowadays but it’s better going in with eyes wide open.

Summerville was absolutely toying with the championship last season, ran round 5 players every time he got it, scored 20 odd goals and won POTY for the championship. He how warms the bench for 15th places West Ham. It’s a joke
 
Hamer has the most attributes to play at that level but he can be very wasteful. I would say despite this he's probably our only true Premier League standard player. Having said that he would probably only start for a bottom 4/5 team but outside that he's a bench player.

Cooper is a good shot stopper, commanding but his distribution I think is really average which lets him down. I would say he's just about prem level.

Potential to be prem level but not quite there;
Souza is the closest outside of those mentioned, defensively a beast, if he can raise his possession game then he would be a real asset
Peck
Arblaster
Seriki
 

The 2019 wilder side I'd say only joc was premier league class in that I could see another side going for him and Henderson.

Other than berge and Mcburnie none of the other signings we made on promotion have gone on to stay in a top flight.

We came 9th.
 
I look at the top three and I dont see anyone
Leeds are held up as the gold standard and yet don't have one player who would be a first team regular for a premteam
Esteve has potential to be and Rigg, Bellingham and Arblaster and peck for us but don't think any of them would go straight in a team now
 
I hope that if we’re getting promoted in 3-4 years time things will be different and we’ll have had a few years to build a squad. But right now if we get promoted, it’s really going to take 100m+ of smart spending on 6-7 players to get us to be a properly competitive Prem side. even then it’s a gamble and 17th would be an achievement.

Not trying to be negative - it’s just reality. I love getting promoted as an end in itself and would never turn down that opportunity. Plus you never know, sometimes things just click and players outperform themselves for a season or two, giving us time to build.

Specific to the question - Hamer, Cooper and Arblaster for sure. Souza, Anel would be OK. Burrows, Seriki, Peck certainly have the potential but are a couple of years away at least. Brooks and a few others would be fine in a 22 man squad.
 
It’s a taken a long time but football fans are now coming to the realisation.

The facts are depressing but it’s good to see from these responses that most people won’t be fooled anymore. The gap is just too big.

As said above basically only cooper is a sure thing but it’s unlikely the rest could make the step up. It’s just a totally unfair game nowadays but it’s better going in with eyes wide open.

Summerville was absolutely toying with the championship last season, ran round 5 players every time he got it, scored 20 odd goals and won POTY for the championship. He how warms the bench for 15th places West Ham. It’s a joke
The issue these days with the premier league:

The top 6 pick and choose the best 2/3 players from each league.

But then Everton / Forrest / Leeds (when they were there) etc will choose from the balance. They’ll choose the 4th best performer in La Liga etc.

If the likes of Hamer / Vini etc went to La Liga would they perform to the level required to get signed by another premier league sides? It’s unlikely.

Wilder has picked a few players that have gone have premier league careers but it’s such a tough task as the standard is so good now.
 
I think there are several who either are good enough or can maybe step up as others have listed above. Some forgetting T.Davies has always played PL football until this season?

It will be again incredibly tough to stay up if we go up. But I do think people forget just how low in quality last seasons squad was. And the key is also how strong your bench is too.

I feel like we have improved overall as a squad since then. With the likes of McAtee and Archer the exceptions as they would deffo make us stronger. Throw in Bogle too.

Cooper, Burrows, Peck, T.Davies being fit, O'Hare, T Campbell all improve our quality overall.
 
Hamer, Cooper & Arblaster (if back to his best) would fit into a Bournemouth, Leeds, Palace etc type side easily imo, the rest are decent on any given day, but the deep in is massive, as proven last year, the fact is we need to go up to have any chance of keeping our best players
 
Never mind the lack of players.

What about a manager who has watched the Pompey & Boro games and , on that evidence , picks a team that can't dominate Luton feckin Town ?

Would you trust him to spend the £ required , even if the £ was available ?
 
Almost every one of them could but you need all 11 on the pitch to be good enough. If just one isnt up to the task the rest will all fail, then its the bench which has to have the same quality. The rules need to change first season up you should be allowed unlimited loans in the matchday squad and if you stay up reduce the number gradually. But the other prem teams dont want that they want to let the bottom 3 just keep swapping
 
Think it’s not just a question of individual players but also “the team” factor. The 2019 team had played together to win promotion and quite a few had been together since L1. In the Prem we basically kept the same team with little additions like Mousset, McB and Robinson but the core of the team was unchanged particularly the defence. We were also very lucky with virtually no injuries. The sum of the parts definitely exceeded the individuals. We also had our overlapping CBS which no one had seen before. The problem with last promotion and if we get promoted this year we won’t have anything like the same team who won promotion. The 2023 team we sold IllimAn and Berge on the eve of the new season plus we had lost our other 2 best players Doyle and McAtee so the team was effectively dismantled. If we get promoted this season we don’t have a settled team that can just step up as we have so many loans and long term injuries in Blaster and Souttar (who is a loan anyway) and have so many other injuries we never seem to put out the same team from one game to the next. Would we just buy all the current loan players? Even if we did it would be nothing like the situation in 2019. Add to that the gap between EFL and EPL has grown enormously. It’s daunting.
 
If we get promoted, who from our current squad would you say could make the step up to the Premier League based from this season so far. Even if we don’t get promoted who do you think could live up to the standards of the Premier League?

In my opinion it would be:

Cooper 100%

Hamer 100%

Burrows 50/50

Anel 50/50

Souza 50/50 only because of last season

Peck 75/25 he’s a fighter and I feel like he would be fine 100% as a good squad player

Arblaster 75/25 proved he can play in the Premier League did well and didn’t look too out of place last season

Brooks 50/50

O’Hare 50/50

Seriki 50/50

Tom Davies 50/50

Everyone else in our squad I feel like is simply not good enough to play in the Premier League. What do you reckon?
You have picked 11. Just need to add 12 more and Champions League beckons ?
 

If we get promoted, who from our current squad would you say could make the step up to the Premier League based from this season so far. Even if we don’t get promoted who do you think could live up to the standards of the Premier League?

In my opinion it would be:

Cooper 100%

Hamer 100%

Burrows 50/50

Anel 50/50

Souza 50/50 only because of last season

Peck 75/25 he’s a fighter and I feel like he would be fine 100% as a good squad player

Arblaster 75/25 proved he can play in the Premier League did well and didn’t look too out of place last season

Brooks 50/50

O’Hare 50/50

Seriki 50/50

Tom Davies 50/50

Everyone else in our squad I feel like is simply not good enough to play in the Premier League. What do you reckon?
Davies, Cooper, hamer, souza that's all
 

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