What is the long-term plan?

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Hoping not to jinx it but we are probably going to stay-up this year and barring extraordinary set of circumstances we won't be in the Premier League next year either.

We are approaching the January transfer window which is a challenging one to trade in but we can expect a couple of deals and departures.

The owners in the summer tried to move on from Wilder going to an AI model and recruiting more foreign players. Whilst it didn't work and they quickly corrected course, I hope that we don't go from one extreme to the other and think carefully about where we are/need to be.

Ultimately after the second year of parachute payments we'll have to accept that we won't be able to keep as many players as we have so will have to cut our cloth accordingly.

Asides from that, would be interested in what people think the longer term plan should be. Academy players? Rely on loans? International scouting? Domestic scouting? Off-the-pitch improvements?

Appreciate we've been fire-fighting over the past few months scrambling out of the bottom three but would hope the powers that be have some plans with Wilder about where we are/should be over the next few years as we move into the next decade of football.
 



Hoping not to jinx it but we are probably going to stay-up this year and barring extraordinary set of circumstances we won't be in the Premier League next year either.

We are approaching the January transfer window which is a challenging one to trade in but we can expect a couple of deals and departures.

The owners in the summer tried to move on from Wilder going to an AI model and recruiting more foreign players. Whilst it didn't work and they quickly corrected course, I hope that we don't go from one extreme to the other and think carefully about where we are/need to be.

Ultimately after the second year of parachute payments we'll have to accept that we won't be able to keep as many players as we have so will have to cut our cloth accordingly.

Asides from that, would be interested in what people think the longer term plan should be. Academy players? Rely on loans? International scouting? Domestic scouting? Off-the-pitch improvements?

Appreciate we've been fire-fighting over the past few months scrambling out of the bottom three but would hope the powers that be have some plans with Wilder about where we are/should be over the next few years as we move into the next decade of football.
After reading about whats been on sky sports! The new owners just paying for the club to the former owner is short terms plans !!!.
 
Hoping not to jinx it but we are probably going to stay-up this year and barring extraordinary set of circumstances we won't be in the Premier League next year either.

We are approaching the January transfer window which is a challenging one to trade in but we can expect a couple of deals and departures.

The owners in the summer tried to move on from Wilder going to an AI model and recruiting more foreign players. Whilst it didn't work and they quickly corrected course, I hope that we don't go from one extreme to the other and think carefully about where we are/need to be.

Ultimately after the second year of parachute payments we'll have to accept that we won't be able to keep as many players as we have so will have to cut our cloth accordingly.

Asides from that, would be interested in what people think the longer term plan should be. Academy players? Rely on loans? International scouting? Domestic scouting? Off-the-pitch improvements?

Appreciate we've been fire-fighting over the past few months scrambling out of the bottom three but would hope the powers that be have some plans with Wilder about where we are/should be over the next few years as we move into the next decade of football.

I’m expecting our owners to be professional business men and set the transfer and salary budget as per FFP restrictions.
So in order to bring in players we’ll be for forced to sell our best player most seasons but only if we receive a big offer.

Suspect we’ll become (at best) like Middlesborough, showing fair ambition but we won’t be able to compete financially with any of the parachute clubs

So think from next year think we’ll finish 6th to 12th ….unfortunately this season will be our best chance for promotion.

Our fanbase seem to be a little self entitled these days….don't think many realise we’ve started the season with one of the highest budgets in the EFL.
This is only due to receiving large Sky (£35 million and £45 million a season) payments…..this could reduce to the standard £7 million next season.
 
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Hoping not to jinx it but we are probably going to stay-up this year and barring extraordinary set of circumstances we won't be in the Premier League next year either.

We are approaching the January transfer window which is a challenging one to trade in but we can expect a couple of deals and departures.

The owners in the summer tried to move on from Wilder going to an AI model and recruiting more foreign players. Whilst it didn't work

Way too soon to say that.
 
Suspect we’ll become (at best) like Middlesborough, showing fair ambition but we won’t be able to compete financially with any of the parachute clubs
You don't have to compete financially with the parachute clubs. You just have to be wiser with the money.

Middlesbrough are doing OK so far this season. There's only 1 parachute side in the top 10 and there's a decent chance it will 3 sides without any parachute payments going up this season.
 
I’m expecting our owners to be professional business men and set the transfer and salary budget as per FFP restrictions.
So in order to bring in players we’ll be for forced to sell our best player most seasons but only if we receive a big offer.

Suspect we’ll become (at best) like Middlesborough, showing fair ambition but we won’t be able to compete financially with any of the parachute clubs

So think from next year think we’ll finish 6th to 12th ….unfortunately this season will be our best chance for promotion.

Our fanbase seem to be a little self entitled these days….don't think many realise we’ve started the season with one of the highest budgets in the EFL.
This is only due to receiving large Sky (£35 million and £45 million a season) payments…..this could reduce to the standard £7 million next season.
If entitled is expecting to be challenging top half of championship, having spent half of the last 6 years in the premier league..... then call me entitled.

I call it ambition.
 
If entitled is expecting to be challenging top half of championship, having spent half of the last 6 years in the premier league..... then call me entitled.

I call it ambition.
We don't really do "ambition" the intent is there but it's as far as it gets unless things do really change.....
 
I’m expecting our owners to be professional business men and set the transfer and salary budget as per FFP restrictions.
So in order to bring in players we’ll be for forced to sell our best player most seasons but only if we receive a big offer.

Suspect we’ll become (at best) like Middlesborough, showing fair ambition but we won’t be able to compete financially with any of the parachute clubs

So think from next year think we’ll finish 6th to 12th ….unfortunately this season will be our best chance for promotion.

Our fanbase seem to be a little self entitled these days….don't think many realise we’ve started the season with one of the highest budgets in the EFL.
This is only due to receiving large Sky (£35 million and £45 million a season) payments…..this could reduce to the standard £7 million next season.
The narrative that wanting your team to do well, and compete at a level consumate with the money the club spends on it's 1st team is being "entitled", is almost as bad as the people telling fans not to celebrate.

At no time in history has football Fandom been anything other than aspirational. There has been no point when United have been in the Championship and the fans have said "that's enough for me. I'm just glad we didn't lose 3-0 today".
 
Wilder has talked positively in interviews about having presented his plan to the board and them being supportive. Getting rid of Godfrey alone must free up a big sum per month. If we assume another 3 will go back then you'd think 4 players will come in a replacements.

The wild card is whether we lose one of our saleable assets and how much of thst is reinvested. I wouldn't be at all surprised if one of Hamer or Peck is poached away in January.
 
You don't have to compete financially with the parachute clubs. You just have to be wiser with the money.

Middlesbrough are doing OK so far this season. There's only 1 parachute side in the top 10 and there's a decent chance it will 3 sides without any parachute payments going up this season.
1 good season out of the last 25 and suddenly you’re the experts 🤣
 



You don't have to compete financially with the parachute clubs. You just have to be wiser with the money.

Middlesbrough are doing OK so far this season. There's only 1 parachute side in the top 10 and there's a decent chance it will 3 sides without any parachute payments going up this season.
Coventry are showing how to do it and they havent been in the premier league for 25 years
 
I think we need a better strategy than just getting Premier League money, spending it on players and hoping for the best.

There is a high chance it won’t happen but it would be a better long term plan to invest in the club infrastructure. We’d stand a much better chance of establishing ourselves at the highest level with top class training facilities, academy and stadium.
 

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