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Considering your average 'established' Championship players can go for several million, surely the value of the majority of our squad has risen considerably.

When you take into account the fees being paid, we must have at least half a dozen players worth quite a bit.

Brooks
Fleck
Baldock
JOC
Coutts
Freeman?
Evans?

Even Lunny has shown to be capable.

Or are they going to have to knock about at this level for a few seasons before fetching the same as an Ipswich player who's been plodding along with them for five seasons?
 



The three who have the right combination of age and ability to be the targets of multi-million-pound bids from the Premier League are Brooks, Fleck, and JOC. Respectively, probably worth 15m, 8-10m, and 5m in today's market. The first two I think are quite likely to move on in the summer if we don't achieve promotion this season
 
Dear Prince,

I’m delighted to inform you that we have recently set a value of £800 million for the current squad, if you’d like more information on the coaching staff and management perhaps we can wait until after we’ve negotiated the deal for Maureen, the tea lady. Some have described her as priceless.

regards

Kev
 
Mainly depends on the length on contract they are on as well, all the extensions we signed will end up paying off.
 
Carruthers aside, I don't think there is any player in our squad that hasn't shown himself to be a proficient top 10 Championship player at the very least.

In the current market we'd be daft to value any of them under 29 at less than £5m, rising to £20m for the likes of Brooks.

We are talking about the tools to get into the Championship play offs here, and a possible £200m windfall. Not to be sniffed at or undervalued.
 
I don't profess to be an expert in player values, but at a guess taking into account age and, well I guess just my opinion, I'd say this:

Brooks £10m
Fleck £2m
Baldock £800k
JOC £1.5m
Coutts £1.5m (if he recovers from injury and is as good as he was before it)
Freeman £800k
Evans £1m

As I say, it's a complete guess and doesn't take into account contract length or anything. But of you consider the fee we paid for Lee Evans, coming from a club at the top end of the Championship. Although I'd say for younger players like JOC and Evans, with a decent season behind them we could be saying more in the region of £5m if they're ready to take trhat step up a level and they don't do it with us. Conservative I know, but I'm used to setting budgets at work and over valuing things never works well for anyone unless you're the salesman.
 
They’re only worth what people want to pay, depending on the amount of clubs in for said player which in all honesty, will more than likely end up being less than what we value them at or what they’re actually worth to us.

Trying to make a quick buck or two is short sighted and is what has lead us to be underachievers for quite a few years. Those years seem to be over and they need to be if we’re to achieve anything in the game at the top level. You can sell Brooks for £5M or £10M but that player could be the difference between being in the Championship or in the Premier league, which let’s face it, will be worth over ten times the transfer fee we’d have brought in.
 
Marty_Mcfly you must've missed the Nile Ranger (yes that one) for 6 million and Jordan Hughill for 8 millon transfers, last transfer window to value our players so lowly!
 
All less than £2million according to McCabe's 15 year old Casio calculator.

In the actual transfer market some of our best players should not be leaving us for less than £10million. If we are serious about keeping most of our best players for as long as possible that is.
 
Marty_Mcfly said:
I don't profess to be an expert in player values, but at a guess taking into account age and, well I guess just my opinion, I'd say this:

Brooks £10m
Fleck £2m
Baldock £800k
JOC £1.5m
Coutts £1.5m (if he recovers from injury and is as good as he was before it)
Freeman £800k
Evans £1m

As I say, it's a complete guess and doesn't take into account contract length or anything. But of you consider the fee we paid for Lee Evans, coming from a club at the top end of the Championship. Although I'd say for younger players like JOC and Evans, with a decent season behind them we could be saying more in the region of £5m if they're ready to take trhat step up a level and they don't do it with us. Conservative I know, but I'm used to setting budgets at work and over valuing things never works well for anyone unless you're the salesman.
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Did you stop following football 5 years ago?
 
Marty_Mcfly said:
I don't profess to be an expert in player values, but at a guess taking into account age and, well I guess just my opinion, I'd say this:

Brooks £10m
Fleck £2m
Baldock £800k
JOC £1.5m
Coutts £1.5m (if he recovers from injury and is as good as he was before it)
Freeman £800k
Evans £1m

As I say, it's a complete guess and doesn't take into account contract length or anything. But of you consider the fee we paid for Lee Evans, coming from a club at the top end of the Championship. Although I'd say for younger players like JOC and Evans, with a decent season behind them we could be saying more in the region of £5m if they're ready to take trhat step up a level and they don't do it with us. Conservative I know, but I'm used to setting budgets at work and over valuing things never works well for anyone unless you're the salesman.
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We bought Baldock for 3/4 of a million quid, he’s worth triple that after his promotion and performances this season.
 



wizadry said:
We bought Baldock for 3/4 of a million quid, he’s worth triple that after his promotion and performances this season.
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We didn’t spend that much on him.

These threads always make me laugh. I understand that as fans we’re biased but I agree they’re only worth what people are willing to pay. The only players of real value are the ones that are young or in their prime, we got Evans from Wolves who are above us for £750k very recently, so you’d say that’s about what he’s worth.

It’s only ever strikers or exceptional young players that ever go for stupid money, Brooks is the only one that fits that description. there’s a few exceptions but it’s largely in players who are sold to the premier league that exceed £4-5m, although it’s tough tell with almost every few being undisclosed.

And Chali 2na thanks for your constructive and informative comment.
 
Marty_Mcfly said:
We didn’t spend that much on him.

These threads always make me laugh. I understand that as fans we’re biased but I agree they’re only worth what people are willing to pay. The only players of real value are the ones that are young or in their prime, we got Evans from Wolves who are above us for £750k very recently, so you’d say that’s about what he’s worth.

It’s only ever strikers or exceptional young players that ever go for stupid money, Brooks is the only one that fits that description. there’s a few exceptions but it’s largely in players who are sold to the premier league that exceed £4-5m, although it’s tough tell with almost every few being undisclosed.

And Chali 2na thanks for your constructive and informative comment.
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I was going off the transfer market website but it could be bollocks, that’s all I had to go on.

I do think a solid wingback at this level after a promotion will be valued accordingly, I think he’ll be worth £2M ish now but as I implied earlier that’s my rough valuation and ultimately it means fuckall in the grand scheme of things, it’s what other clubs are willing to pay and the more clubs interested the higher the fee would be.
 
SteveBlade said:
Considering your average 'established' Championship players can go for several million, surely the value of the majority of our squad has risen considerably.

When you take into account the fees being paid, we must have at least half a dozen players worth quite a bit.

Brooks
Fleck
Baldock
JOC
Coutts
Freeman?
Evans?

Even Lunny has shown to be capable.

Or are they going to have to knock about at this level for a few seasons before fetching the same as an Ipswich player who's been plodding along with them for five seasons?
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Brooks £10mil (£7mil plus add ons)
Fleck £7mil
Baldock £5mil
JOC £8mil
Coutts N/A injured
Freeman N/A injured
Evans - same as paid
Lundstram - £1.5 mil
 
Some crazy valuations on here - I think Brookes, Fleck, Baldock and JOC obviously have the highest worth but if they were such hot property then a few clubs would have been in for them in Jan. In reality the Burnley/Liverpool rumours never came to anything.

Eg. Why would Pool pay as much as £20m for Brookes after spending £35m to get a ready made star in Salah. He has the potential but if he can't make our starting line up every week (talking earlier in the season - not related to latest illness) then he is a big risk. Same with Fleck, its a large gamble for Burnley to take him because they don't know if he can step up or not.

I think ultimately we have such a brilliant manager that our club is better than the sum of its players and we don't really have stand out players that will go for big big bucks. I can see someone like Fleck going and looking quite ordinary or be a squad player elsewhere despite him being one of our stand out performers
 
There’s 2 valuations these days.

The true sensible valuation and
The over inflated PSG inspired stupid valuation.

The sensible valuation for Brooks is probably 10 million Max.

The stupid valuation (which we might get as some clubs are so rich or desperate they can afford to be stupid) is nearer 20 mil

He’s the only one that has the potential to be special and the only one with real value.
 
hardytm2004 said:
Why would Pool pay as much as £20m for Brookes after spending £35m to get a ready made star in Salah.
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Im not saying Liverpool would pay £20m for him, as if they would: he'd already be there.

However, the comparison to Salah isn't a good one IMO. His transfer happened before Neymar's move to PSG, which seemingly adjusted the values of world class players.
 
wizadry said:
They’re only worth what people want to pay, depending on the amount of clubs in for said player which in all honesty, will more than likely end up being less than what we value them at or what they’re actually worth to us.

Trying to make a quick buck or two is short sighted and is what has lead us to be underachievers for quite a few years. Those years seem to be over and they need to be if we’re to achieve anything in the game at the top level. You can sell Brooks for £5M or £10M but that player could be the difference between being in the Championship or in the Premier league, which let’s face it, will be worth over ten times the transfer fee we’d have brought in.
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Not forgetting the fact that the S2 pound is worth a millionth of the GBP so figures have to be adjusted accordingly.

Downwards, usually
 
It only matters what they're worth if you're going to flog them. I'd rather we didn't
 
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