We wuz robbed

[Rochdaleblade]

I though Norwoods "goal" was probably offside,but can't see how the officials could actually make a decision one way or another given that you would need to be directly behind the shot whilst simultaneously in line with the last defender. It's not often you see one disallowed like that. I don't know why our players were so slow to get out when the ball is first cleared.

 

[Bladesman]

Actually nevermind the fucking goal by Norwood. How about the blatant penalty before all that.







The ref was looking right at it:

 

[Swannyblade]

It's bollox. If you watch the replay, no Blackpool players are appealing, the commentator says that if it didn't hit anyone it would have definitely been a goal (so he obviously assumed Robinson was the one deemed to be offside), and the ref is in a better position to give it for obstruction than the linesman and doesn't.

 

[jt64]

Just seen Norwoods shot from.behind the goal no way was any player in their keepers view as the shot flew in

There were five players who were in an offside position lined up across the six yard line. For none of them to be in the keeper's view, four of them would have to be Dean Hammond

 

[MobileBlade]

Huddersfield also scored a perfectly good goal against us at their place that was disallowed

Now for that one he was offisde (even if the referee got it wrong saying it was disallowed for a foul).

 

[MJM]

I get how there may be a little confusion as to the Berge 'goal', but I honestly can't understand how some people still think Norwood's was offside.

It's so unfortunate that the defending team will always be given the BOTD in that situation, but he'll watch that back and realise he made a mistake.

 

[ForgeBlade]

I think it's shocking that it was ruled out, but if I'm trying to take a positive, then maybe it might encourage Norwood to have a pop a bit more? We know he's got it in his locker, and sure a lot of shots will go high and wide, but if he could contribute 3 or 4 goals from around the edge of the box in the remaining 9 games that could make a huge difference come the end of the season.

 

[Pittsburg Blade]

Goalkeeper Grimshaw……another player that doesn’t understand the offside rule..


"It was when we were pushing out and they were pushing out too, their players were still offside and it went through a crowd and I couldn't see so it's a good decision from the ref. I didn't see it until it was behind me."

 

[Sheffsteel]

I was expecting to see a really controversial decision (a referee blunder) regards the off side goal.

but I've watched the goal in slow motion and when Norwood strikes the ball there are at least 3 United players clearly offside, Berge, Sharp and Egan.
Sharp is initially standing in line of the strike, so one could argue he was interfering (gaining an advantage) by blocking the view of the keeper.

However the strike takes a deflection off Robinsons back and he was clearly always "on side".
Also even if the keeper had a clear view of the strike, he wouldn't have been able to react and it would have still been a goal.

So I can understand why the linesman put his flag up. Sharp was in an offside position stood in line initially obscuring the view of Norwood shot.
However ultimately there was no advantage gained, the shot changed direction so that Sharp wasn't obscuring the view.
So in retrospect it should have been a goal.

Unlucky, but we had 90 minutes to make it count and also there's still plenty of matches left.
If we're good enough, then we will finish in the play-offs, regardless of occasional dodgy ref decisions.

 

[Harrisblade]

I can understand why the lino flagged but the ref was central and hence in a good position to overrule him.

What I can’t understand is why forwards of all teams don’t follow the defenders out when the ball is cleared from corners, they can’t benefit but can cause goals to be disallowed, as demonstrated last night.

My memory of the highlights was that all 3 of our players were trying to get out and were all moving away from the goal.
None seemed to make any attempt to get anywhere near the ball

 

[CoatesyBlade]

I actually thought it deflected off the defenders arm before hitting Robbo. Did anyone else spot that?

 

[MobileBlade]

I was expecting to see a really controversial decision (a referee blunder) regards the off side goal.

but I've watched the goal in slow motion and when Norwood strikes the ball there are at least 3 United players clearly offside, Berge, Sharp and Egan.
Sharp is initially standing in line of the strike, so one could argue he was interfering (gaining an advantage) by blocking the view of the keeper.

However the strike takes a deflection off Robinsons back and he was clearly always "on side".
Also even if the keeper had a clear view of the strike, he wouldn't have been able to react and it would have still been a goal.

So I can understand why the linesman put his flag up. Sharp was in an offside position stood in line initially obscuring the view of Norwood shot.
However ultimately there was no advantage gained, the shot changed direction so that Sharp wasn't obscuring the view.
So in retrospect it should have been a goal.

Unlucky, but we had 90 minutes to make it count and also there's still plenty of matches left.
If we're good enough, then we will finish in the play-offs, regardless of occasional dodgy ref decisions.

Phase 1 - not sure how you can say Sharp was obstructing the goalkeepers vision. He was actually looking through 2 Blackpool defenders and Robinson:


However, given the ball did not get through at that point it is irrelevant and becomes phase 2 the moment it touches Robinson:


Basically Lino got it wrong.

Going back to that Huddersfield game, taking out the merits of whether Baldock fouled the player or not, he WAS offside interferring with the goalkeeper:

 

[Bladesman]

I was expecting to see a really controversial decision (a referee blunder) regards the off side goal.

but I've watched the goal in slow motion and when Norwood strikes the ball there are at least 3 United players clearly offside, Berge, Sharp and Egan.
Sharp is initially standing in line of the strike, so one could argue he was interfering (gaining an advantage) by blocking the view of the keeper.

However the strike takes a deflection off Robinsons back and he was clearly always "on side".
Also even if the keeper had a clear view of the strike, he wouldn't have been able to react and it would have still been a goal.

So I can understand why the linesman put his flag up. Sharp was in an offside position stood in line initially obscuring the view of Norwood shot.
However ultimately there was no advantage gained, the shot changed direction so that Sharp wasn't obscuring the view.
So in retrospect it should have been a goal.

Unlucky, but we had 90 minutes to make it count and also there's still plenty of matches left.
If we're good enough, then we will finish in the play-offs, regardless of occasional dodgy ref decisions.

What about foul in the box prior to all of that?

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

Norwood's was absolutely fine. Stupid decision.

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

It's swings and hedgehogs.
Sometime it's a comfy swing.. Sometimes sat on hedgehog spines in the balls.
Fucking hell lady said we weren't booked in our accommodation. I knew we're were and ended up skanking her.
Don't offer rooms if you can't keep up with bookings fat Mandy. And the sea was cold.
4/7 rating, considering.
FFS.

Even by your beautifully weird standards, I'm thinking what's tha on abaht, duck?

 

[Bladesman]

So we are just going to ignore the penalty we should have got?

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

At least we can now conclude the ‘pyro’ “debate” -
Clearly shouldn’t be allowed given setting one off for a goal that wasn’t allows folk from Blackpool , yes Blackpool ! to right royally take the piss

The horror, the horror

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

So we are just going to ignore the penalty we should have got?

Errr
Yes
Given the referee did

 

[Bladesman]

Errr
Yes
Given the referee did

It was blatant and well before Norwood's shot. The ref or linesman should have spotted that.

 

[steve26272]

Whilst I do think the goal via VAR would have stood, maybe Hecky should be working with the lads on ‘getting back onside’ as if we got out as quick as the blackpool defenders, the goal wouldn’t have been a debate

one straggler is unlucky, but half our bleeding outfield players are offside FFS

 

[ISZA ⚔️]

Definitely??

Hard to tell from this angle. Would like a side on view

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What I will say though - it didn't even go in

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[MobileBlade]

Whilst I do think the goal via VAR would have stood, maybe Hecky should be working with the lads on ‘getting back onside’ as if we got out as quick as the blackpool defenders, the goal wouldn’t have been a debate

one straggler is unlucky, but half our bleeding outfield players are offside FFS
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Just to quote you Law 11: "It is not an offence to be in an offside position."

 

[Blend-it-like-Harris]

Whilst I do think the goal via VAR would have stood, maybe Hecky should be working with the lads on ‘getting back onside’ as if we got out as quick as the blackpool defenders, the goal wouldn’t have been a debate

one straggler is unlucky, but half our bleeding outfield players are offside FFS

I can't quite believe some Blades fans arguing about the bleedin' obvious!

The goalkeeper's "line of sight" is clear; he had already adjusted position to see the shot. Billy Sharp is NOT interfering - the goalkeeper looks directly along the line of sight, occupied by Pool defenders.

Robinson turns his back - maybe because the defender covering him is trying to take his 'kin head off! Why doesn't anyone see that!?

For Sander Berge's "goal" at the pont of contact (Egan's header) there's a defender behind the goalkeeper. I can't believe folks think Sander is in front of him!
Hecky was spot on - we scored two perfectly legitimate goals - no argument.

 

[jt64]

I can't quite believe some Blades fans arguing about the bleedin' obvious!

The goalkeeper's "line of sight" is clear; he had already adjusted position to see the shot. Billy Sharp is NOT interfering - the goalkeeper looks directly along the line of sight, occupied by Pool defenders.

I'm not sure what's more blinkered - half the fans in this thread, the supposed view the keeper has, or most of the runners at Cheltenham

 

[Blend-it-like-Harris]

I'm not sure what's more blinkered - half the fans in this thread, the supposed view the keeper has, or most of the runners at Cheltenham

Anyone bothering to check the lines of the penalty area and goal-line and taking the same line across from Berge to the Blackpool defenders but then imagining he's offside are certainly blinkered, (or Blackpool fans in denial).

 

[blades14]

Phase 1 - not sure how you can say Sharp was obstructing the goalkeepers vision. He was actually looking through 2 Blackpool defenders and Robinson:
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However, given the ball did not get through at that point it is irrelevant and becomes phase 2 the moment it touches Robinson:
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Basically Lino got it wrong.

Going back to that Huddersfield game, taking out the merits of whether Baldock fouled the player or not, he WAS offside interferring with the goalkeeper:
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Without VAR how on earth can the linesman come to the conclusion that sharp is in his line of sight?

 

[MobileBlade]

Without VAR how on earth can the linesman come to the conclusion that sharp is in his line of sight?

Law 11 also states that the player must "obviously" be in the line of sight.

 

[blades14]

Law 11 also states that the player must "obviously" be in the line of sight.

The ref didn't give it, the linesman did so i cannot fathom how he can come to that conclusion stood over there

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

The ref didn't give it, the linesman did so i cannot fathom how he can come to that conclusion stood over there

My understanding is that the ‘assistant referee’ (should?) identify any ( of 5 !) players in an offside position - it’s then up to the referee to determine / decide any / all other aspects (ie line of sight / interfering with play)

 

[Rudders]

The ref didn't give it, the linesman did so i cannot fathom how he can come to that conclusion stood over there

Large brown envelopes of cash may have helped him come to the conclusion.