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It's a pointless debate. Whats lowton achieved other than appearances?

By your argument hes better than TAA.

He's achieved the accolade of playing at the very top level for the past 7 years. It was generally accepted when he played for us that his future was as a wing back and he'd compliment our set-up very well in this respect. Age wise he's only a year older than Stevens so you can't use that against him. As I mentioned earlier we're not skint any more so pleading poverty is an excuse we can no longer use.
 
He's achieved the accolade of playing at the very top level for the past 7 years. It was generally accepted when he played for us that his future was as a wing back and he'd compliment our set-up very well in this respect. Age wise he's only a year older than Stevens so you can't use that against him. As I mentioned earlier we're not skint any more so pleading poverty is an excuse we can no longer use.
Yeah fair enough but your argument is utter bollocks, in fairness
 
He's achieved the accolade of playing at the very top level for the past 7 years. It was generally accepted when he played for us that his future was as a wing back and he'd compliment our set-up very well in this respect. Age wise he's only a year older than Stevens so you can't use that against him. As I mentioned earlier we're not skint any more so pleading poverty is an excuse we can no longer use.

I think the first thing you have to ask is would he improve us.

I dont think he does so what would the point be..
 
I'd rather have Baldock than a 30 year old Lowton 10x over.

I think the first thing you have to ask is would he improve us.

I dont think he does so what would the point be..

He's a year older than Stevens. Are you suggesting we should be considering a replacement for him too due to age?

What I don't understand and what is apparent in this thread is the mass hysteria which breaks out on this forum whenever you suggest a player who might actually challenge for a place, especially one who may be competing with one of the fans' favourites. This is usually followed by rubbishing them even though they've spent most of their career at the top. To doubt whether some like Lowton would improve us displays a level of childish ignorance, not to mention arrogance, which wouldn't go amiss on another well-know football forum.
 
I hope I am not alone in this, but when Baldock went down for a while against West Sham, I shit myself! Literally, what do we do if either him or Stevens are out for any length of time, in my book we do not have the right quality players to come in and do a job at this level, I know CW works miracles with players, and Freeman did a good job for a while before, but as we learned in The Championship, he is a quality lad but not really at the level we would need, and on the left even worse, I know the lad from Notts Forest can play there if needed, but for a length of time? in this division? I know people think we need to strengthen in January in a host of positions, but to me this should be priority one and two. Who agrees/disagrees?

I bought two wing backs in January on FIFA 20!!

Doubt we can get those though - Dalot (Man U) and Yedlin (Newcastle)
 
Saying that lowton is no improvement on baldock isnt childish ignorance. It's an opinion.

It's also.an opinion backed by facts like hes been in the team of the week on multiple occasions this season.

Lowton...no appearances.

If were going to spend cash, it has to be a shoe in for first team now, lowton wouldn't be in my opinion.
 
A proper Premier League player is one who would have multiple teams trying to sign him if his club was relegated. That's not Lowton. He just happens to play for a Premier League team.

He's done OK, but he's not a signing I'd ever consider
 
Kyle Naughton would offer the cover required at RWB, and probably happy to sit on bench / be called up when needed. BO the other side, plenty of cover there. Or alternatively we could always switch to a back four, with the full backs (basham / osborn??) bombing on and a Norwood type sitting in with two centre halves.

Harsh as this will sound but an upgrade on Norwood (if ones available and affordable) would be something i'd look at. Reason being that at times he can become a bit lost in a game, and he's a bit weak when it gets more physical / end to end. The lad is a superb player, and has been excellent so far, but there's usually a 5-10 min spell in a game where he worries me.
 
He's a year older than Stevens. Are you suggesting we should be considering a replacement for him too due to age?

What I don't understand and what is apparent in this thread is the mass hysteria which breaks out on this forum whenever you suggest a player who might actually challenge for a place, especially one who may be competing with one of the fans' favourites. This is usually followed by rubbishing them even though they've spent most of their career at the top. To doubt whether some like Lowton would improve us displays a level of childish ignorance, not to mention arrogance, which wouldn't go amiss on another well-know football forum.
Every player ages differently, so no

And because I don't think Lowton is better than Baldock I/We are childishly ignorant? Eh?
 
Saying that lowton is no improvement on baldock isnt childish ignorance. It's an opinion.

It's also.an opinion backed by facts like hes been in the team of the week on multiple occasions this season.

Lowton...no appearances.

If were going to spend cash, it has to be a shoe in for first team now, lowton wouldn't be in my opinion.

You need more than 11 players in your 1st team squad you know, and they need to be greater than the "back-up" level which is often quoted on here.
 



You need more than 11 players in your 1st team squad you know, and they need to be greater than the "back-up" level which is often quoted on here.
Ok, so I'll agree he improves the squad, but at his age, what he will cost etc, I'd rather go for someone younger. Reece james on loan or signing
 
And because I don't think Lowton is better than Baldock I/We are childishly ignorant? Eh?

Totally ignorant. See my post above. Believe it or not we are in the PL now an it's not uncommon to have players of equal ability competing for a start. Its not inconceivable for one of them to lose form or get injured and you have a ready made replacement stepping in. We've got to get rid of this poor relations mentality and get players in the squad other than washed-up old timers and lower league journeymen. We're established in the PL now, we just need to act like it.
 
Ok, so I'll agree he improves the squad, but at his age, what he will cost etc, I'd rather go for someone younger. Reece james on loan or signing

Agree totally. We need 17-18 players of PL quality in the squad. This thread is about the WBs but it also applies to the rest of the team.
 
Lowton has played the full 90 of all of Burnley's games so far this season so I can't see him coming to us to play second fiddle, and I don't think he's enough of an upgrade on Baldock to justify the expense. I think we'd want to be looking at someone younger/cheaper with the potential to kick on, or really splash the cash on a major upgrade on Baldock. No idea who that might be. Reece James? But I don't think he's available now.
 
Totally ignorant. See my post above. Believe it or not we are in the PL now an it's not uncommon to have players of equal ability competing for a start. Its not inconceivable for one of them to lose form or get injured and you have a ready made replacement stepping in. We've got to get rid of this poor relations mentality and get players in the squad other than washed-up old timers and lower league journeymen. We're established in the PL now, we just need to act like it.
Are you on drugs, or some other sort of hallucinogenic substance? Thinking one player is better than another is not 'childish' or 'totally' ignorant in any way.

I don't give a fuck about the depth of the squad in this instance, you're talking about one player v another, and saying it's ignorant to suggest Baldock is better than Lowton - eh?

Why Lowton, because he's an ex-Blade? And I'm the ignorant one... derrr
 
Are you on drugs, or some other sort of hallucinogenic substance? Thinking one player is better than another is not 'childish' or 'totally' ignorant in any way.

I don't give a fuck about the depth of the squad in this instance, you're talking about one player v another, and saying it's ignorant to suggest Baldock is better than Lowton - eh?

Why Lowton, because he's an ex-Blade? And I'm the ignorant one... derrr
Lowton?
that’s not even bladey bladeness.. that’s bonky madness
 
Are you on drugs, or some other sort of hallucinogenic substance? Thinking one player is better than another is not 'childish' or 'totally' ignorant in any way.

I don't give a fuck about the depth of the squad in this instance, you're talking about one player v another, and saying it's ignorant to suggest Baldock is better than Lowton - eh?

Why Lowton, because he's an ex-Blade? And I'm the ignorant one... derrr

Just make yourself a cup of tea and calm down a bit. Then read through this thread again and try to understand whats being said. That is, we need more than one player for each position. We need players of sufficient quality to be challenging each other for that position. Doing this would cost a bit of money. All of this is what PL teams do.

This thread is about WBs. Lowton, as a suggestion, would fit this profile for either of the two WBs we have at the moment. Resurrecting Freeman or playing Fleck at WB is not the answer as has been suggested earlier. Sometimes I despair at the backward looking outlook of some of our fans.
 
Reckon we’re alright down the left- I like what I’ve seen from Osborn (not a great deal, granted) and would be happy to see him fill in if Enda misses out, or JOC does and Enda drops into left CH. Would like to see another left footed CH though, because the possibility of Kean Bryan having to step in at Anfield or the Etihad (or Carrow Road for that matter) breaks me out in a cold sweat.

Suppose ideally we’d have someone similar on the right who could cover wing back and right CH. No idea who though.
 
Lowton might be an option next summer. He'd be a very good option at either RWB or RCB - both positions well suited to him that he hasn't had the chance to play.
 



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