We are in for a difficult season

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I'd have more respect for the post if he had said it before the game today or last week or whenever but he says it has nothing to do with todays game,yeah,right
And to be fair a fook all meningless friendly as well.
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"captain mannering.....captain mannering...wer'e doomed i tell ya dooooooomed...."
Edit didn't see Dronnies post above...... 😆 😆
 

It will obviously be a difficult season and we will be towards the bottom of the league for most of it.

But there is absolutely nothing wrong with people on here getting excited by an excellent transfer window. You seem to have an issue with people being excited.

That's a fair comment and I edited the post who just quoted after I sent it to change that appearance. I have no problem at all for people to be excited or anything they can feel whatever they like.

I do challenge whether it necessarily has been an 'excellent' transfer window however, and that we will survive this season in the PL. Here's a comment I made in May 2017 that could apply now:

'Holmes is the wrong age, never played in the championship and will cost a relatively large amount of money and doesn't really fit into our present system.

Of course we all trust Wilder but that doesn't forgo the right to be skeptical. We are relying on an awful amount of players making the step up. For every Vardy there are around 5 Bogles'

I was right about Holmes. Fortunately the rest of the team did step up and the rest as they say is history. I hope history repeats itself.
 
I can take the flak but I'm not sure what it achieves?

For those who say I've got records in 'overreacting' there are only two occasions I can recall. Feel free to view my profile to find others. You'll find plenty of examples of me being overtly positive about SUFC such as this one: https://www.s24su.com/forum/index.php?threads/one-of-my-proudest-moments-as-a-blade.63487/

1. The Villa game
2. The day after we lost to Millwall in league one

That's two occasions in three years.

Even then I didn't say anything outrageous, and I wasn't alone with the views I shared.

I recall this forum going into a proper meltdown after the most recent Millwall game and indeed the August Middlesborough game last year and I kept my counsel then when plenty of others didn't.

I've been consistent in being fearful for this season, and again I'm not alone. Yet this is characterized as not being a proper supporter I'm a slasher etc. everyone should have a read of this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum and not fall into the trap

Fair play for those who have engaged constructively. It's a fair point that I appear to be stating the obvious and 'hedging bets' (and I'll admit I put £30 against us going up just before the Ipswich game) although as some have recognised its just a countering the prevailing view and adjusting expectations for THIS season.


F.M. Do not show sensitivity, they'll be all over you.
 
And to be fair a fook all meningless friendly as well.
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"captain mannering.....captain mannering...wer'e doomed i tell ya dooooooomed...."

To be fair I had posted this before the game and last week as well, see post 695:


And we aren't doomed far from it. We have an outside chance of staying up and very good chance of going back up the following season if we do go down. Long term (ownership battles aside) our future is very bright and positive.

It's just for this season I think we will struggle. There's no shame or blame in that, and it's based on my assessment of where we are.
 
I do challenge whether it necessarily has been an 'excellent' transfer window however, and that we will survive this season in the PL.
As someone very smart pointed out, Wilder will have a tailor made plan for every signing. Essential when you look at the differences between Jags, Osborn, Morrison and Oli.
My concern is the future of fans current heroes, when set against the new signings. What happens when Billy or Norwood is dropped, and ends up on the bench or worse?
It has been an excellent value for money window, with players vetted for age, attitude, enthusiasm, quality and price. Taking the clubs future safety, and financial situation into account.
 
This is something myself and a very small minority have been saying, if not whispering, on here since we got promoted. This post is in no-way related to today's result, although hopefully that will provide a reality check. We haven't really had any proper tests for pre-season which has been disappointing. Bournemouth have played WBA, Brentford Lazio and Lyon. We lost to Burton and Stade de Reims, and beat non-league Chesterfield and Northampton. Hardly inspiring!

It's easy to be positive. I could post 'I'm so excited we're really going to surprise people this year UTB!' and get 100+ likes and we all feel good about ourselves but it doesn't reflect the truth, of where I see it, where we are at. This does not mean that or others are in any way less supportive of the team cheering them on. I also don't want to be a downer or that terrible word 'slasher', but it seems like anyone who is skeptical is labelled one so so be it.

Those who will 'play the poster not the post' will remember my overreaction to the Villa result. I was wrong then and was delighted to be and I hope I'll be wrong again. We have come so very far so why not further? Well as I see it what Wilder has done is taken a paddle boat across the Atlantic ocean and has paid for an engine and is intent on taking it to the moon. Honestly if we stay up it will have to go down as one of football's greatest achievements.

This is not a dig or criticism of anyone and I wouldn't have managed things any differently (apart from not signing Mousett the Bournemouth reject and arranging better pre-season fixtures). The club strategy makes perfect sense, they are smart buys if we go down genius buys if we they are good enough to help us stay up.

If we do struggle badly all I hope is that we stick with Wilder no matter what. Certain players will not make the leap up. Others won't settle in as we'd like. This is a tough league, just ask yourself how many of our players would get into any other PL squads let alone first team? Football isn't won on paper, as demonstrated by our promotion. But there is a limit and I really fear this will be a bridge too far and many will be disappointed. Do we really expect Lundstram to be the midfield answer in the PL?!

So just a note to say, I recommend we expect the worse and hope for the best and not overreact to bad results (I know I'm hypocritical) and manage our expectations. I remember when we got thrashed by Middlesborough last year. Fortunately Wilder saw that Evans wasn't working and got rid and then brought Norwood in, this year we don't have that luxury with the window closing much earlier.

We should all be excited for next season but I just felt this needed saying to 'counter-balance' what's being said. Now of course... ;)

UTB

I’m interested to know what kind of pre season programme you think we should have had?
 
It’s attention seeking, that’s all it is. He’ll say whatever he thinks gets the biggest reaction and then he’ll refer back to previous threads/posts that he’s made (like he’s done here) to try and get people to react to those as well.

He used to do the same thing over on Bladesmad where, incidentally, he was an Arsenal fan first and foremost who also had a soft spot for United.

Edit: hence why he’s just ‘liking’ the posts which ask him genuine questions, he’s no interest in discussing this issue, he’s got the reaction he wanted.

FMBlade1

Is this true?
 
I’m interested to know what kind of pre season programme you think we should have had?

I wish we had some proper matches against big teams, or some more challenging ones. When Bournemouth went up they played Real Madrid, whilst I wouldn't ask for that we did do very well to play Inter Milan last year so a pity we couldn't repeat it. Chesterfield Barnsley Northampton and Burton? Come on as a PL team we should be doing better than that. Yes its Wilder's choice and he has got it right during his time here 99% of the time though I don't think we will have been challenged enough. Hope I'm wrong!

As for signings I've stated that Freeman in the Premiership will be like Holmes in the Championship. Mouset seems unnecessary at that price he's not even due to start. We've paid over the odds for McBurnie, but he'll be worth it long term so don't mind so much. Robinson seems fantastic.

Jagielka and Osbourne are good cover (though still not convinced LB is as strong as we'd like if Stevens gets injured). We are going to rely heavily as things stand on Lundstram and Bryan across this season which is worrying. Our midfield could be strengthened.

Wilder has done as well as he can in a difficult market as I acknowledged weeks ago.
 
It's funny, one the one hand people are saying the OP is 'unnecessarily negative and untrue' on the other hand people are saying I'm 'stating the obvious'!

I just think there is a bit of hyperbole going on with the optimism of our new signings and where we are for this season. It seems fair play on here to say/predict their success but woe betide anyone who suggests otherwise, lest they be called a Wendyite and not a proper supporter of the team.

Also as another poster said, we are all pissed off with the lack of respect pundits give us, myself included. But that doesn't necessarily mean they are wrong in predicting we are in for a rough season.

The intention with the OP is not to bang on doom and gloom, its about balancing and adjusting expectations which is something myself and a small minority think is necessary.
If we can’t show any optimism whatsoever after the signings we’ve made then we may as well all die now!
 
To be fair I had posted this before the game and last week as well, see post 695:


And we aren't doomed far from it. We have an outside chance of staying up and very good chance of going back up the following season if we do go down. Long term (ownership battles aside) our future is very bright and positive.

It's just for this season I think we will struggle. There's no shame or blame in that, and it's based on my assessment of where we are.
We only have an outside chance of staying up? That’s utter bollocks and thankfully our manager won’t be thinking it’s only an outside chance.

Anyone would think we start of in administration and a huge points deduction with how you go off.
 
We only have an outside chance of staying up? That’s utter bollocks and thankfully our manager won’t be thinking it’s only an outside chance.

Anyone would think we start of in administration and a huge points deduction with how you go off.

Well almost all the football experts and betting markets agree with me. In fact many of our fans do. Thinking that you have a better than outside chance of staying up doesn't mean you thus have a better than outside of staying up.

As for your final point:

 
Well almost all the football experts and betting markets agree with me.
The so called Premier league football experts know fuck all about us.
In fact many of our fans do.
That’s complete and utter bollocks, everyone who I speak to and the consensus I get from on here is that we’ll more than hold our own.

The bottom end of the Prem is similar to the top end of the championship, it’s only mismanagement from top to bottom of the clubs in and around the top teams from the Champ and the bottom teams from the Prem that fucks teams up for seasons on end.
 
The so called Premier league football experts know fuck all about us.

That’s complete and utter bollocks, everyone who I speak to and the consensus I get from on here is that we’ll more than hold our own.

The bottom end of the Prem is similar to the top end of the championship, it’s only mismanagement from top to bottom of the clubs in and around the top teams from the Champ and the bottom teams from the Prem that fucks teams up for seasons on end.

Yes some of them don't know anything about us. It annoys me that some lazily refer to us as a 'physical direct team'. Others do their research. We shall see, hope Wilder and co proves them all wrong.

A load of people on here have said that I have stated the obvious, and others that they agree. The majority don't as I said in the OP this is a minority view. I don't think we will hold our own. That seems like an outrageous opinion on here!
 
This is something myself and a very small minority have been saying, if not whispering, on here since we got promoted. This post is in no-way related to today's result, although hopefully that will provide a reality check. We haven't really had any proper tests for pre-season which has been disappointing. Bournemouth have played WBA, Brentford Lazio and Lyon. We lost to Burton and Stade de Reims, and beat non-league Chesterfield and Northampton. Hardly inspiring!

It's easy to be positive. I could post 'I'm so excited we're really going to surprise people this year UTB!' and get 100+ likes and we all feel good about ourselves but it doesn't reflect the truth, of where I see it, where we are at. This does not mean that or others are in any way less supportive of the team cheering them on. I also don't want to be a downer or that terrible word 'slasher', but it seems like anyone who is skeptical is labelled one so so be it.

Those who will 'play the poster not the post' will remember my overreaction to the Villa result. I was wrong then and was delighted to be and I hope I'll be wrong again. We have come so very far so why not further? Well as I see it what Wilder has done is taken a paddle boat across the Atlantic ocean and has paid for an engine and is intent on taking it to the moon. Honestly if we stay up it will have to go down as one of football's greatest achievements.

This is not a dig or criticism of anyone and I wouldn't have managed things any differently (apart from not signing Mousett the Bournemouth reject and arranging better pre-season fixtures). The club strategy makes perfect sense, they are smart buys if we go down genius buys if we they are good enough to help us stay up.

If we do struggle badly all I hope is that we stick with Wilder no matter what. Certain players will not make the leap up. Others won't settle in as we'd like. This is a tough league, just ask yourself how many of our players would get into any other PL squads let alone first team? Football isn't won on paper, as demonstrated by our promotion. But there is a limit and I really fear this will be a bridge too far and many will be disappointed. Do we really expect Lundstram to be the midfield answer in the PL?!

So just a note to say, I recommend we expect the worse and hope for the best and not overreact to bad results (I know I'm hypocritical) and manage our expectations. I remember when we got thrashed by Middlesborough last year. Fortunately Wilder saw that Evans wasn't working and got rid and then brought Norwood in, this year we don't have that luxury with the window closing much earlier.

We should all be excited for next season but I just felt this needed saying to 'counter-balance' what's being said. Now of course... ;)

UTB
Yes some of them don't know anything about us. It annoys me that some lazily refer to us as a 'physical direct team'. Others do their research. We shall see, hope Wilder and co proves them all wrong.

A load of people on here have said that I have stated the obvious, and others that they agree. The majority don't as I said in the OP this is a minority view. I don't think we will hold our own. That seems like an outrageous opinion on here!

your clueless
 
I don't think we will hold our own. That seems like an outrageous opinion on here!
Can you see why Blades fans take umbrage to you when you say things like this?

We’ve brought in some very good players and made the squad loads better in terms of depth and cover, whether it’s good enough obviously remains to be seen but you’ve already written us off which is very strange indeed after what Wilder has done to this club since he’s been here.

I’m beginning to think you’re on the windup.
 

I must have missed something because most of comments I have read and heard are complimentary about Wilder and the style of play. Why anybody should be surprised that we are one of the favourites for relegation is bizarre, that's normal for promoted teams. It's up to Wilder and the players to prove them wrong, will they. I haven't got a clue. As for the fantastic transfer window, it's fantastic that he's been backed, again not a clue if the signings are premiership quality, the 38 games will tell us that. Whatever it will be interesting watching it unfold.
Well done FM entertaining thread ;)
 
Just becuase you mention the 3-1 loss against Reims is no related to your post, we all probably agree it is!

Anyway, people are forgetting that a successful season is finishing above 3 teams that are shitter than us. I'd fancy our chances at that tbh. The likes of Basham and Baldock might get found out early on but so what, we've improved massively and I can't wait for O'Connell to curl a cross in after a 1-2 with Steven's on the left only to find Sharp at the back post to tap one in. UTB
 
I wish we had some proper matches against big teams, or some more challenging ones. When Bournemouth went up they played Real Madrid, whilst I wouldn't ask for that we did do very well to play Inter Milan last year so a pity we couldn't repeat it. Chesterfield Barnsley Northampton and Burton? Come on as a PL team we should be doing better than that. Yes its Wilder's choice and he has got it right during his time here 99% of the time though I don't think we will have been challenged enough. Hope I'm wrong!

As for signings I've stated that Freeman in the Premiership will be like Holmes in the Championship. Mouset seems unnecessary at that price he's not even due to start. We've paid over the odds for McBurnie, but he'll be worth it long term so don't mind so much. Robinson seems fantastic.

Jagielka and Osbourne are good cover (though still not convinced LB is as strong as we'd like if Stevens gets injured). We are going to rely heavily as things stand on Lundstram and Bryan across this season which is worrying. Our midfield could be strengthened.

Wilder has done as well as he can in a difficult market as I acknowledged weeks ago.
I wish we had some proper matches against big teams, or some more challenging ones. When Bournemouth went up they played Real Madrid, whilst I wouldn't ask for that we did do very well to play Inter Milan last year so a pity we couldn't repeat it. Chesterfield Barnsley Northampton and Burton? Come on as a PL team we should be doing better than that. Yes its Wilder's choice and he has got it right during his time here 99% of the time though I don't think we will have been challenged enough. Hope I'm wrong!

As for signings I've stated that Freeman in the Premiership will be like Holmes in the Championship. Mouset seems unnecessary at that price he's not even due to start. We've paid over the odds for McBurnie, but he'll be worth it long term so don't mind so much. Robinson seems fantastic.

Jagielka and Osbourne are good cover (though still not convinced LB is as strong as we'd like if Stevens gets injured). We are going to rely heavily as things stand on Lundstram and Bryan across this season which is worrying. Our midfield could be strengthened.

Wilder has done as well as he can in a difficult market as I acknowledged weeks ago.

Wilder has been in the game since he was 15 and has managed teams at every level bar Premiership so I think he’s got a good idea of what constitutes a worthwhile friendly.

The Real v Bournemouth friendly was an absolute joke. £40 tickets and they got beat 6-0. You can do your running work at Shirecliffe, no point wasting a fixture just chasing the ball down.

We’ve played two decent European sides in Betis and Reims. What’s the problem?

Wouldn’t make sense flying the players out to the continent every weekend of pre season, plus a run out against Barnsley etc is more beneficial for games against Palace, Watford, or Burnley than a game against Lazio.

This pre-season has been fine and more or less the same as every pre season and as always the results count for fuck all.
 
Not to mention pre season has been reliant on us getting away fixtures due to upgrades at BDTBL. Wilder talked about wanting local games like Chezzy so fans could get along
Wilder has been in the game since he was 15 and has managed teams at every level bar Premiership so I think he’s got a good idea of what constitutes a worthwhile friendly.

The Real v Bournemouth friendly was an absolute joke. £40 tickets and they got beat 6-0. You can do your running work at Shirecliffe, no point wasting a fixture just chasing the ball down.

We’ve played two decent European sides in Betis and Reims. What’s the problem?

Wouldn’t make sense flying the players out to the continent every weekend of pre season, plus a run out against Barnsley etc is more beneficial for games against Palace, Watford, or Burnley than a game against Lazio.

This pre-season has been fine and more or less the same as every pre season and as always the results count for fuck all.
 
I, for one, am yearning for the days in League 1 under ultra positive Nige. I find the post match interviews and assessments so bland in comparison to those days and feel it’s what I deserve to have the oracle tell me the absolute opposite of what I just witnessed in the arena.
I long for platitudes, waffle and inspirational quotes sourced from the manual of corporate bollocks and, oh, how I miss the chance to witness a club captain of the calibre of Jay McEvercrap pull on the shirt and show me how the game should not be played.

What fucking dire, miserable hell are we now letting ourselves in for.

Just over three years ago. Just fucking remember that!
 
This OP is really shit. Its stating the fucking obvious but with a piss poor attempt to disguise it as considered argument. If your so in need of attention either buy a puppy or hire a friend. Just leave us here feeling a bit optimistic for the coming season and not putting a massive fucking downer on the forum before the season has started. Twattery of the highest level.
 
What did all the bed wetters, slashers and Naysayers do before the internet was invented?

FFS.... strap yourself in and enjoy the ride

My trust in CWAK is unwavering, regardless of whether that ride ends up in the Champions League or Championship

COYRAWW!
 
This OP is really shit. Its stating the fucking obvious but with a piss poor attempt to disguise it as considered argument. If your so in need of attention either buy a puppy or hire a friend. Just leave us here feeling a bit optimistic for the coming season and not putting a massive fucking downer on the forum before the season has started. Twattery of the highest level.
I think I owe you an apology fmblade, while I dont agree with the negativity I think my reply was over the top. I broke the first rule of forums, never post whilst pissed! Sorry.
 
Well I’m glad I read that, it never crossed my mind that the huge step up in quality might make the upcoming season difficult.
I honestly thought we might win the league FFS!! That’s it, I’m going to support some other fucker.


Or maybe I might stick with the team I’ve followed all my life, through thicker and thinner, and knowing full well it’s going to be a huge achievement not to be relegated. Award for most obvious post in history goes to the OP
 
This is something myself and a very small minority have been saying, if not whispering, on here since we got promoted. This post is in no-way related to today's result, although hopefully that will provide a reality check. We haven't really had any proper tests for pre-season which has been disappointing. Bournemouth have played WBA, Brentford Lazio and Lyon. We lost to Burton and Stade de Reims, and beat non-league Chesterfield and Northampton. Hardly inspiring!

It's easy to be positive. I could post 'I'm so excited we're really going to surprise people this year UTB!' and get 100+ likes and we all feel good about ourselves but it doesn't reflect the truth, of where I see it, where we are at. This does not mean that or others are in any way less supportive of the team cheering them on. I also don't want to be a downer or that terrible word 'slasher', but it seems like anyone who is skeptical is labelled one so so be it.

Those who will 'play the poster not the post' will remember my overreaction to the Villa result. I was wrong then and was delighted to be and I hope I'll be wrong again. We have come so very far so why not further? Well as I see it what Wilder has done is taken a paddle boat across the Atlantic ocean and has paid for an engine and is intent on taking it to the moon. Honestly if we stay up it will have to go down as one of football's greatest achievements.

This is not a dig or criticism of anyone and I wouldn't have managed things any differently (apart from not signing Mousett the Bournemouth reject and arranging better pre-season fixtures). The club strategy makes perfect sense, they are smart buys if we go down genius buys if we they are good enough to help us stay up.

If we do struggle badly all I hope is that we stick with Wilder no matter what. Certain players will not make the leap up. Others won't settle in as we'd like. This is a tough league, just ask yourself how many of our players would get into any other PL squads let alone first team? Football isn't won on paper, as demonstrated by our promotion. But there is a limit and I really fear this will be a bridge too far and many will be disappointed. Do we really expect Lundstram to be the midfield answer in the PL?!

So just a note to say, I recommend we expect the worse and hope for the best and not overreact to bad results (I know I'm hypocritical) and manage our expectations. I remember when we got thrashed by Middlesborough last year. Fortunately Wilder saw that Evans wasn't working and got rid and then brought Norwood in, this year we don't have that luxury with the window closing much earlier.

We should all be excited for next season but I just felt this needed saying to 'counter-balance' what's being said. Now of course... ;)

UTB

I really enjoyed your novel..

Way of writing a fucking boring miserable post
 
These fans who are saying aim for 17th a negative bastards aren’t they. Imagine having the same aim throughout life - scraping through life. What a shit boring life that would be. Aim for the top ffs.
I’ve not read a post saying ‘aim for 17th’.
 

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