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I was reminded by a comment that Darren made recently, about how some posters on here have conjured up a re-write of McCabe's handling of United in his role as Chairman. The inference was that McCabe's mistakes, most acknowledged at some point by KM himself, were in fact deliberate attempts to harm this club.

Fast-forwarding to the present and Nigel Clough's managership of United. I now see an increasing number of posts, interestingly all written by the same familiar names who seem only capable of writing in a style bordering on hysterical at times, who are contributing to a clamour for signings. It's as if being a supporter invests these posters with an insight that only they share, as if they have a privileged position that gives them the authority to talk as if they know something the rest of us don't.

I've read most of these posts, and the degree of repetition that's contained within these posts would make a neurotic reader consider some type of hysteria was at work. Fortunately I'm able to adopt a considered view of events, and the actions that cause this type of reaction. It's as if a write-by-numbers set of conclusions has been reached and the authors of these rabid, often illiterate, posts seem to think there's a conspiracy at work by the club's management and board of directors. It made me consider if these posters are only capable of seeing life at United in terms of daily conspiracies and deliberate attempts to stop the club from moving forward. A poster recently questioned Nigel Clough's morals in the context of NC being out of touch with the modern game. I replied to this and rejected these claims. I received a rather intense and hostile response to my observations, which wasn't that helpful other than to suggest that I'd misinterpreted what had been written. It's possible of course, I could have misconstrued the contents of said poster's missive although I don't think this was the case, but what it did underline was how this perception can create a view that is absolute, that at the top of this club is a view that a plot exists, where everything that can be done, must be done, to harm the club that employs them.

What I've found in questioning this notion, that those in power are wilfully seeking to damage this club, is that rather than wishing to have a useful exchange of opinions, what it results in is a level of hysteria and aggression that helps no one. It must be similar to the mood that's contained within a lynch-mob when there's a determination to hang someone, regardless of the facts. I mean, we wouldn't want facts and their accuracy to get in the way of a drama would we? After all, what would supporting United be without a theatrical display of "I know best" and "We're doomed" ?

Who really knows what happens when the club identify a player they would like to buy? All we, the fans, ever see are reports, often contradictory, about targets the club have identified. The GMS story went from nothing to the point of hysteria in a matter of days. A player that many of us had never heard of had suddenly become a 'must have', a player who, based on a few video clips, would make a huge difference to the club's promotion challenge. What accompanied this story were vastly differing accounts of what United had offered for GMS. It should also be noted that the amounts may have been part of an overall package of payments, yet why would the mob mentality amongst United fans wish to consider this? Why should any of us choose to imagine that Clough and his team might have a set of information that was actually correct? But no, the newspaper accounts were all it took to convince those willing to believe the worst.

Unfortunately things won't change. This post will be forgotten as further examples are 'revealed' of those who run this club and their intentions to damage any chances we have of moving forward.

I dare say this post might prompt replies that suggest a view that denies everything I've written about. That's fine, let a thousand flowers bloom and all that. But until I read facts, as opposed to something resembling the worst type of rumour and speculation, I'll take a considered view of events, rather than allowing myself to get caught up in a set of opinions that catch fire quicker than a pyromaniac's imagination.
 



If he doesn't have a fancy name and some YouTube footage he's not in my list.

Surely the best signing ever would have a fancy name, youtube footage, started at Ilkestone and once played for either/or Derby County or Sheffield United before moving to the Scottish 2nd Division
 
The post may be forgotten but it don't half remind me of the sleeper Ollessendro.

Apart from the fact that it isn't written in cod Yorkshire and isn't attempting to be funny using a garden storage facility/football club analogy and lasting for many months :-)

I think IIYB makes a good point. It upsets me every time United lose and I wish it weren't so, but it's football, it's not real life and I couldn't work myself into a lather about the way the club is run and where it sits. I hope things are getting better, I think they are and whatever spleen I vent on here isn't going to make any difference.
 
McCabe may have made mistakes, and he may even admit it but there is a feeling that you're listening to absolute bullshit every time he opens his mouth.
As a result of this every word he and the boardroom says gets scrutinised and remembered. It must be because they think our fan base is so thick and stupid that they can get away with it because they're all the same, everyone that comes into our boardroom talks complete bolox.

We don't want to hear what any of these people say, all we want is Clough to talk to us without constraints from these morons upstairs.

If he says we wont be signing anybody because we haven't got a pot to piss in that would normally be fair enough, disappointing but fair enough.
The problem is they've even backed themselves into a corner regarding that excuse as well now that the "prince" is on board.

There's a billion things you hear everyday, most of which you'll forget within seconds, but when a known liar tells you something it's human nature to remember it and scrutinise it. That's the situation our boardroom is in.
The lack of trust in these people is shared almost unanimously by all United fans no matter how optimistic or negative they are, and this lack of trust has been embedded by excuse after excuse after excuse and failure after failure after failure.
 
I agree with this
I was reminded by a comment that Darren made recently, about how some posters on here have conjured up a re-write of McCabe's handling of United in his role as Chairman. The inference was that McCabe's mistakes, most acknowledged at some point by KM himself, were in fact deliberate attempts to harm this club.

Fast-forwarding to the present and Nigel Clough's managership of United. I now see an increasing number of posts, interestingly all written by the same familiar names who seem only capable of writing in a style bordering on hysterical at times, who are contributing to a clamour for signings. It's as if being a supporter invests these posters with an insight that only they share, as if they have a privileged position that gives them the authority to talk as if they know something the rest of us don't.

I've read most of these posts, and the degree of repetition that's contained within these posts would make a neurotic reader consider some type of hysteria was at work. Fortunately I'm able to adopt a considered view of events, and the actions that cause this type of reaction. It's as if a write-by-numbers set of conclusions has been reached and the authors of these rabid, often illiterate, posts seem to think there's a conspiracy at work by the club's management and board of directors. It made me consider if these posters are only capable of seeing life at United in terms of daily conspiracies and deliberate attempts to stop the club from moving forward. A poster recently questioned Nigel Clough's morals in the context of NC being out of touch with the modern game. I replied to this and rejected these claims. I received a rather intense and hostile response to my observations, which wasn't that helpful other than to suggest that I'd misinterpreted what had been written. It's possible of course, I could have misconstrued the contents of said poster's missive although I don't think this was the case, but what it did underline was how this perception can create a view that is absolute, that at the top of this club is a view that a plot exists, where everything that can be done, must be done, to harm the club that employs them.

What I've found in questioning this notion, that those in power are wilfully seeking to damage this club, is that rather than wishing to have a useful exchange of opinions, what it results in is a level of hysteria and aggression that helps no one. It must be similar to the mood that's contained within a lynch-mob when there's a determination to hang someone, regardless of the facts. I mean, we wouldn't want facts and their accuracy to get in the way of a drama would we? After all, what would supporting United be without a theatrical display of "I know best" and "We're doomed" ?

Who really knows what happens when the club identify a player they would like to buy? All we, the fans, ever see are reports, often contradictory, about targets the club have identified. The GMS story went from nothing to the point of hysteria in a matter of days. A player that many of us had never heard of had suddenly become a 'must have', a player who, based on a few video clips, would make a huge difference to the club's promotion challenge. What accompanied this story were vastly differing accounts of what United had offered for GMS. It should also be noted that the amounts may have been part of an overall package of payments, yet why would the mob mentality amongst United fans wish to consider this? Why should any of us choose to imagine that Clough and his team might have a set of information that was actually correct? But no, the newspaper accounts were all it took to convince those willing to believe the worst.

Unfortunately things won't change. This post will be forgotten as further examples are 'revealed' of those who run this club and their intentions to damage any chances we have of moving forward.

I dare say this post might prompt replies that suggest a view that denies everything I've written about. That's fine, let a thousand flowers bloom and all that. But until I read facts, as opposed to something resembling the worst type of rumour and speculation, I'll take a considered view of events, rather than allowing myself to get caught up in a set of opinions that catch fire quicker than a pyromaniac's imagination.

I genuinely agree with all of that.

*grabs popcorn and waits for metalblade
 
I agree with it all , but its all dejavu . Just let Mr Clough sort it. I dont know why but thse long posts , made me think -

Statistically , you are more likley to be bitten by Luis Saurez than a shark.:)
I'm also more likely to be bitten by a Shark than finish reading one of itsinyerblood's posts.

UTB
 
McCabe may have made mistakes, and he may even admit it but there is a feeling that you're listening to absolute bullshit every time he opens his mouth.
As a result of this every word he and the boardroom says gets scrutinised and remembered. It must be because they think our fan base is so thick and stupid that they can get away with it because they're all the same, everyone that comes into our boardroom talks complete bolox.

We don't want to hear what any of these people say, all we want is Clough to talk to us without constraints from these morons upstairs.

If he says we wont be signing anybody because we haven't got a pot to piss in that would normally be fair enough, disappointing but fair enough.
The problem is they've even backed themselves into a corner regarding that excuse as well now that the "prince" is on board.

There's a billion things you hear everyday, most of which you'll forget within seconds, but when a known liar tells you something it's human nature to remember it and scrutinise it. That's the situation our boardroom is in.
The lack of trust in these people is shared almost unanimously by all United fans no matter how optimistic or negative they are, and this lack of trust has been embedded by excuse after excuse after excuse and failure after failure after failure.

Has Judas ever really admitted to a mistake in public :?
Isn't it always - 'blessed bad luck'.
Please excuse bad language.

Or 'Wilson was a good appointment last year - but this year he wasn't so we sacked him'
 
I was reminded by a comment that Darren made recently, about how some posters on here have conjured up a re-write of McCabe's handling of United in his role as Chairman. The inference was that McCabe's mistakes, most acknowledged at some point by KM himself, were in fact deliberate attempts to harm this club.

Fast-forwarding to the present and Nigel Clough's managership of United. I now see an increasing number of posts, interestingly all written by the same familiar names who seem only capable of writing in a style bordering on hysterical at times, who are contributing to a clamour for signings. It's as if being a supporter invests these posters with an insight that only they share, as if they have a privileged position that gives them the authority to talk as if they know something the rest of us don't.

I've read most of these posts, and the degree of repetition that's contained within these posts would make a neurotic reader consider some type of hysteria was at work. Fortunately I'm able to adopt a considered view of events, and the actions that cause this type of reaction. It's as if a write-by-numbers set of conclusions has been reached and the authors of these rabid, often illiterate, posts seem to think there's a conspiracy at work by the club's management and board of directors. It made me consider if these posters are only capable of seeing life at United in terms of daily conspiracies and deliberate attempts to stop the club from moving forward. A poster recently questioned Nigel Clough's morals in the context of NC being out of touch with the modern game. I replied to this and rejected these claims. I received a rather intense and hostile response to my observations, which wasn't that helpful other than to suggest that I'd misinterpreted what had been written. It's possible of course, I could have misconstrued the contents of said poster's missive although I don't think this was the case, but what it did underline was how this perception can create a view that is absolute, that at the top of this club is a view that a plot exists, where everything that can be done, must be done, to harm the club that employs them.

What I've found in questioning this notion, that those in power are wilfully seeking to damage this club, is that rather than wishing to have a useful exchange of opinions, what it results in is a level of hysteria and aggression that helps no one. It must be similar to the mood that's contained within a lynch-mob when there's a determination to hang someone, regardless of the facts. I mean, we wouldn't want facts and their accuracy to get in the way of a drama would we? After all, what would supporting United be without a theatrical display of "I know best" and "We're doomed" ?

Who really knows what happens when the club identify a player they would like to buy? All we, the fans, ever see are reports, often contradictory, about targets the club have identified. The GMS story went from nothing to the point of hysteria in a matter of days. A player that many of us had never heard of had suddenly become a 'must have', a player who, based on a few video clips, would make a huge difference to the club's promotion challenge. What accompanied this story were vastly differing accounts of what United had offered for GMS. It should also be noted that the amounts may have been part of an overall package of payments, yet why would the mob mentality amongst United fans wish to consider this? Why should any of us choose to imagine that Clough and his team might have a set of information that was actually correct? But no, the newspaper accounts were all it took to convince those willing to believe the worst.

Unfortunately things won't change. This post will be forgotten as further examples are 'revealed' of those who run this club and their intentions to damage any chances we have of moving forward.

I dare say this post might prompt replies that suggest a view that denies everything I've written about. That's fine, let a thousand flowers bloom and all that. But until I read facts, as opposed to something resembling the worst type of rumour and speculation, I'll take a considered view of events, rather than allowing myself to get caught up in a set of opinions that catch fire quicker than a pyromaniac's imagination.
Sorry, can you repeat that?
 
I was reminded by a comment that Darren made recently, about how some posters on here have conjured up a re-write of McCabe's handling of United in his role as Chairman. The inference was that McCabe's mistakes, most acknowledged at some point by KM himself, were in fact deliberate attempts to harm this club.
Hardly a "re-write of McCabe's handling", more like opinions based on what has happened over the past few years. Few can deny that McCabe's decision making has been anything other than horrendous and has had a huge detrimental effect, whether that was deliberate or not is open to debate.
 



McCabe made shocking decisions when the club was in the best position to move up a level. Deliberate? No. Just poor judgement in my opinion.

It all backfired and now we are among the floating turds in League 1.
 
Hardly a "re-write of McCabe's handling", more like opinions based on what has happened over the past few years. Few can deny that McCabe's decision making has been anything other than horrendous and has had a huge detrimental effect, whether that was deliberate or not is open to debate.
I've only just got over flogging James Beattie - that was a corker!
 
Nothing wrong with a floating turd . Sign of good health , in movement and moving forward.:)

UTB

Context is everything

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thing is , as like everyone else on here I have no qualms whatsoever in regard to spending other peoples money.
However if I had say 150m to play with and put in say 35 million into any football club took the plaudits for getting us in the prem , but it didnt quite pan out , and we went own by the skin of our teeth , Id invest a bit more in the hope of a quick return , but if it didnt happen , I think Id look round think , wellI tried , then on hearing the abuse Id say fuck this let some other mug take it on.
In our case mccabe is a fan so he was loathe to let it go , said openly he wanted others to take it on , but and this is the key point , no fucker cam,e in so for 3/4 seasons we went backwards mccabe didnt really care, he said as much , but then along came the prince ignited mccabes interest and things slowly got better , not great yet true but better. Now look at other clubs like Coventry who had no fan with money in the board , or portsmouth ,

If I won el gordo in spain at xmas and won 250 million Id look at the lane think should I invest , or stay away from the moaning whinging complainging fans and think no sod it Ill buy a sea front restaurant , such is the bile and conspiracy theory madness based on lines like "McCabe may have made mistakes, and he may even admit it but there is a feeling that you're listening to absolute bullshit every time he opens his mouth." would severly put any future investor off
since we fell out of the prem 20 league clubs have gone through admin , we could so easily have been number 21
 
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That was Mark the pitsmoor armed robber ,using Radio pig to appeal to the council to help fellow Pitsmoor armed robbers yeah. And then spouting complete bollocks about chairmen and sneaking digs in about Utd. I could have written this every weekday night for the past 5 months.
Fuckin hell that big fat twat from Rotherham is slavering down the microphone now ,oh shit it gets better Bywater the goalkeeping prick is on now ,wheres the off button.
 



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