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Harrisblade said:
But apart from that, everything's basically ok isn't it?
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Apparently, according to some. And as soon as the moneygrabbers such as Forestfairy, Hopper and Bannan are all back the world will quake at the Massive's brilliance.

I for one am shitting myself.
 
McGrath said:
Jos Luhakay, hired because




Having taken a public stance against corruption in football, I am privy to information about corruption in football from multiple credible sources including UK Government, so what I am about to refer to is based both on privileged information and publicly disclosed information.

Why is that guy sharing privileged information on a public internet forum?
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Because he's an egotistical bellend, not to mention fantasist.
 
Stretch said:
Apparently, according to some. And as soon as the moneygrabbers such as Forestfairy, Hopper and Bannan are all back the world will quake at the Massive's brilliance.

I for one am shitting myself.
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Seems to me like they are all in no rush to be declared fit and will either be angling for a move or happy to draw wages for sitting on their arses
Foristieri for example was rumoured to have had a training ground just up and then mysteriously got a season long I jury
 
Consensus over at Swill South is that the current squad needs to be written off and a new set bought in the summer.

To push on.

Easy to say when it is not your money.



MASSIVE - failure.
 
Stretch said:
Oh dear. :D:D:D

They really have been led down the primrose path



6 hours ago, Lee Strafford said:


For me Neil - 'Mandaric' - is still running the club, that is to say that he never was who many think he was and the reality of him is still in place.



I am really uncomfortable with the tone coming out of our club, its really unhealthy. Things can go badly in football but club alignment is vital through good or bad times, Chansiri has been badly advised and seems to have adopted a position as being unaligned with the fanbase.



Having taken a public stance against corruption in football, I am privy to information about corruption in football from multiple credible sources including UK Government, so what I am about to refer to is based both on privileged information and publicly disclosed information.



This is what I have seen play out;



Zahavi and friends equity funded Mandaric (via his Delaware registered holding company) as front man, they loaned £6m from Barclays (I was told this by a senior Barclays executive and a Coop executive). They financed all the commercial revenues streams (shirts, catering, season tickets etc forward sold) to provide working capital, and also to settle the Coop initial payments, plus HMRC and DA amounts. Loans were subsequently put in with a charge on the stadium.

Mandaric ran his course.

They have a few attempts to sell our club to a few different sets of 'interesting' folks from eastern Europe.

Zahavi's man Nelio had his man Piaxao land Chansiri, on the back of Piaxao being 'unnofficial DoF' at Reading.

Chansiri buys the club from Mandaric while never having visibility of who Mandarics backers were.



Chansiri talks about being a custodian and wanting to be held accountable as such, promising to be open and promising to do everything to get the club to the premier league.

99.99% of Wednesdayites embrace the Chansiri family (excluding the mentalists and the casketeers & associates (who have been pushing a rumour that Chansiri is just money laundering)).

Positivity around the club results in a strong end to the season.

Chansiri lets someone sign a bunch of players one of which whose career has ended already having been paid off by the insurance following serious injury.

Chansiri found post completion that all commercial revenue streams, excluding league / TV income, had been leveraged to the max (forward sold) to provide working capital to that point (this is where Chansiri should have stopped trusting the guys who brought him to S6).

Chansiri puts all tickets and corporate pricing up to try to compensate, ignoring all advice from staff to the contrary.

Chansiri choose not to honour an agreed deal with corporate box holders, did not bring them along with him on his decision.

Chansiri makes all the expenditure decisions at the club.

But on the football side these decisions are based on options presented by Piaxao - who is effectively DoF at S6 (the transfer committee which Chansiri has now publicly said was never really involved in any deals we did, was a smokescreen to fend off EFL enquires about influence of Piaxao at both Reading & S6).

Piaxao and related parties are CCs agent.

Paizao and related parties act as agents to a number of SWFC players.

Piaxao likes to recommend players to Chansirir with attitude problems and injury problems, and coming to the end of their career (lots of margin for commission in those deals should they happen).

CC ran a low discipline first team regime, and did not maintain dialogue with non first team players, this leads to weak club spirit. Success in football is won and lost in the margins of collective mentality versus the opposition.

Chansiri was making decisions that directly effect players (squad numbers etc) instead of staying away from football matters, - this further undermines club spirit.

CCs first first full season is a good one as we are playing the game high up the pitch.

We bottle it in the first playoff final.

Second season starts on teh back of a bunch of strange signings and renewals, and CC changes the way we play. We make the payoffs.

Kieran Lee's career was compromised when Chansiri backed CC who wanted him to play in the playoffs when Paul Smith had declared him unfit (Kieran Lee still had circa three months to go in his recovery). When the inevitable happened and Kieran Lee went off injured this compromised players trust in our club.

Practically the whole medical team is fired (scapegoated) and replaced with physios known to CC / Piaxao / Dyen & related parties.



2 years in, far too many dodgy signings and renewals (injury prone players should not get signed or get renewals, nor should you sign a player that has recently had a serious injury) weigh the club down.



Bad start to the season

Injured players getting treatment away from the club.

Season deteriorates

Chansiri starts demanding that Wednesdayites support the club (him) unconditionally.

CC walks into Swansea

Chansiri rants at Wednesdayites none of which have wasted £40m on dodgy signings.

Chansiri says there is no need for a CEO for ages, then hires a CEO with strong links to Doyen / Piaxao and related parties.

Chansiri hires a disciplinarian coach who has been out of the game for a long time.

We will breach finacial fair play limits next season if we don't sell our profitable assets, but none of them are playing so won't attract proper value for them.



I can't reconcile Chansiri's willingness to go along with what looks like a massive shakedown, where instead of accepting that circa £40m has now been largely wasted, then cleaning out all of Zahavi's / Doyen's / Piaxao's team, instead Wednesdayites are getting blamed for supporting the club to the max, having a moan when things are bad and hung out to dry just because the 0.001% of Wednesdayites (0.001% of any constituency are always mentalists) almost certainly have had a pop (really don't condone this especially anything that has affected his family as I had similar experiences affecting my family), but Chansiri should have been expecting this to happen no matter what transpired on the pitch (at the very least he surely would have considered the reality that he would face some form of crappy racially motivated negativity even if he was 100% successful).



I am told that Chansiri is a wonderful person - but I have not experienced this description. I have experienced an entitled son of a self made billionaire who loves the adoration from fans but is not willing to take responsibility for his own bad decisions*, is unhappy about spending so much time away from home and is angry that everyone is not doing his bidding without question and things are not going as well as he wished them to. Someone who is lashing out at anyone who questions or challenges what he is doing but is happy to let people mug him (and us) whilst they put on a front of deference to him.



* Its understandable to have a degree of trust in the person who brings the opportunity to buy the club to you - its inexplicable to continue to trust that person and everyone connected to them given everything that has transpired.



Potential loss of face for someone with a massive ego and sense of entitlement does not justify what has been playing out recently. Face is already lost.



I am still of the opinion that as a devout buddhist and being part of family of self made highly succesful people, with no doubt his own experiences and contribution to that sucess, that Dejphon Chansiri can be successful at S6.



I am convinced that if Chansiri swallows his pride and puts things right (putting in place a team of people aligned to him and our clubs long term best interest instead of some folks aligned with football agents) then all Wednesdayites (apart from those 0.01% mentalists) will back him 100%. That if he walks a path of integrity and honour then we will fulfil his vision of success through our club, and we will all appreciate his and his families emotional and financial investment in our club for many years to come
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I am told that Chansiri is a wonderful person - but I have not experienced this description. I have experienced an entitled son of a self made billionaire who loves the adoration from fans but is not willing to take responsibility for his own bad decisions*, is unhappy about spending so much time away from home and is angry that everyone is not doing his bidding without question and things are not going as well as he wished them to. Someone who is lashing out at anyone who questions or challenges what he is doing but is happy to let people mug him (and us) whilst they put on a front of deference to him.

So he's a twat and an idiot but

I am still of the opinion that as a devout buddhist and being part of family of self made highly succesful people, with no doubt his own experiences and contribution to that sucess, that Dejphon Chansiri can be successful at S6.

So it's OK because he's a Buddhist and his dad's loaded. Like those trustafarians who spend their lives 'travelling'?
 
The clubs a disaster, lead by a little Thai dictator. I've always wondered if half of the players signed had anything to do with Chansiri and his mob and not King Carlos. Rivalry aside, who'd jump ship to Swansea, fucking Swansea, at the time heading back to the Championship !

Only assets they've got who will probably earn the same money if he moves on is Westwood. The rest are 'alright thanks, I think I'll see the contract out 'for the love of the club'' I reckon Forestieri, who is allegedly back in Argentina, is milking his injury to the max but really wants out !! A work colleague thinks most of the team is contracted until next season as well !! Imagine if they go down, wow !!

I assume the crock referred to by Stafford is Hutchinson.
 
Rob86 said:
The clubs a disaster, lead by a little Thai dictator. I've always wondered if half of the players signed had anything to do with Chansiri and his mob and not King Carlos. Rivalry aside, who'd jump ship to Swansea, fucking Swansea, at the time heading back to the Championship !

Only assets they've got who will probably earn the same money if he moves on is Westwood. The rest are 'alright thanks, I think I'll see the contract out 'for the love of the club'' I reckon Forestieri, who is allegedly back in Argentina, is milking his injury to the max but really wants out !! A work colleague thinks most of the team is contracted until next season as well !! Imagine if they go down, wow !!

I assume the crock referred to by Stafford is Hutchinson.
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Pretty sure its Kieron Lee, Got a bad hip injury, but the Carlos had him playing when not fully fit
 
Rob86 said:
The clubs a disaster, lead by a little Thai dictator. I've always wondered if half of the players signed had anything to do with Chansiri and his mob and not King Carlos. Rivalry aside, who'd jump ship to Swansea, fucking Swansea, at the time heading back to the Championship !

Only assets they've got who will probably earn the same money if he moves on is Westwood. The rest are 'alright thanks, I think I'll see the contract out 'for the love of the club'' I reckon Forestieri, who is allegedly back in Argentina, is milking his injury to the max but really wants out !! A work colleague thinks most of the team is contracted until next season as well !! Imagine if they go down, wow !!

I assume the crock referred to by Stafford is Hutchinson.[/QU


Who'd jump ship to Swansea? What? A team in the Premiership,who he is now apparently steering away from imminent danger, Mmmm.. Who indeed, think it through mate.
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No I had thought it through, Swansea were bottom of the Premier League and looking down and out. He's done well, give him that, but still no guarantees he'll not be back in the Championship next season.

He was at a club that had let him bring, fuck knows, 20 players in ? I guess the point I was making is that it must be poisonous at the sty and he thought fuck it I'd rather try and save Swansea than stick with the squad 'I built'. There's obviously more going on behind the scenes at the sty than everyone knows, including recruitment. His hands tied by FFP due to the shite others had wanted to bring in.

Interesting to hear Leon Bittain the other night after the FA Cup describing his enthusiasm and tireless work ethic, almost like a weight had been lifted from his shoulders. They are in 'massive' decline and it'll be interesting to watch until the end of the season.
 
LYDON said:
©Les Strafford....
''I am still of the opinion that as a devout buddhist...
Dejphon Chansiri can be successful at S6....''

Mindblowing.
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I'm amazed he's not blamed Ben Allen for all this.

Interesting take from a man who's decision to spend vat and tax monies on the team took them to the brink.

Mind you, unlike DK, he didnt put one penny of his own money into Wendy shares.

The legally privileged bit is either bullshit to make him look more important or an invite for everyone concerned to sue him. Be back on the Cross if he's not careful .

Someone screenshot it before it disappears into Neil's private collection.
 
was trying to collate how many of Europes elite clubs are run by devout buddhists
only looked up those in this years cl and so far not found one
 
Fanny magnet said:
I think Hutchison is the one who had the insurance pay out
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I'm lead to believe that SH never received a payout when he retired, and since commencing playing again is uninsurable. If he had a pay-off he would have had to pay it back if he started playing again. Anyway, SH predates Chansiri at Wednesday so possibly it's either another player or LS is getting confused with timings.

Interesting comments from LS which can be either believed or taken with a pinch of salt. A lot of things he states don't sound believable and would've been picked up by a basic due diligence exercise.

However, according to Companies House, it would appear that a company previously linked to Zahavi, lent Mandaric funds, with Hillsborough being the security in October 2103. It was subsequently settled in February 2015. I never knew that. :)
 
Is there going to be a "View From" Sept 24th? i'm sure there will be plenty of them banging on about it on the anniversary.
 
These nuggets turned out just as well as some of their claims prior to the game;

It doesn’t mean they are a better team on paper, nor that they’ll finish above us and if anything is certain, it’s that they’ll never be the better club

we all know their bubble is going to pop and we’ll finish above them

I take great consolation in knowing we’re going to finish higher than them this season

Will they continue like that? No. Are we better over a season? Undoubtedly

They’ll not score 4 again all season. Can only happen in a Derby

Watch us us go and win promotion now. It’s nailed on. We will lose twice to the filth, and win promotion
 
even after getting a battering with class, power, skill and determination they were so deluded that they still thought they would be above us and couldnt believe we had beaten them on their own turf and scored 4 !
 
S64 Blade said:
These nuggets turned out just as well as some of their claims prior to the game;

It doesn’t mean they are a better team on paper, nor that they’ll finish above us and if anything is certain, it’s that they’ll never be the better club

we all know their bubble is going to pop and we’ll finish above them

I take great consolation in knowing we’re going to finish higher than them this season

Will they continue like that? No. Are we better over a season? Undoubtedly

They’ll not score 4 again all season. Can only happen in a Derby

Watch us us go and win promotion now. It’s nailed on. We will lose twice to the filth, and win promotion
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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha whooooooooooooo ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha !!
 



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