Roy's View From... View From Blackburn

[Argentinemanager]

Cheers roy, never seen a view from as complimentary, and after the 6-2 none showed up on the blackburn forums

 

[S64 Blade]

Annoys me when oppo fans talk about out parachute payments as though we didn’t earn them by getting promoted on a shoestring. A big chunk wasted on Brewster as well…

If they think that parachute payments are such a big thing, why didn’t Blackburn go back up when they came down?

Their best finish was 8th in the 5 seasons before they were relegated to League One.

 

[bakeblade]

If they think that parachute payments are such a big thing, why didn’t Blackburn go back up when they came down?

Their best finish was 8th in the 5 seasons before they were relegated to League One.

Parachute payments don't guarantee you promotion, they do give clubs a massive advantage though.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

Thanks Roy. Now I just want to see the same type of comments on 'Roy's View From...' next Sunday afternoon.

…I think, “don’t hold your breath” would be the appropriate phrase.

 

[Need4speed]

All really good comments they couldn’t really say anything else after that performance

Only weird one was was that odd comment about us being good at the “dark arts” presumably these were learnt when the management team went to Hogwarts…

(Wilder definitely would have been in Slytherin and Alan Knill in Hufflepuff)

I don't think it is a dark art but we control games better and see them out. 8 minutes injury time without looking in danger.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

When we beat them 5-0 next Sunday. Would Remembrance Day massacre be a bit too near the knuckle to be popular a meme.

 

[petcharlie]

I sympathise with the non-parachute clubs , but I wouldn't want our players reading this because we can ill-afford complacency.
The financial pressure we are under to get promoted is huge and the 2-point deduction makes our job very difficult given that our play-off record means autos are a must.
An earlier post on another thread says we are in a mini-league of 4 with Mackems , Dirties & Clarets.
Whilst I don't quite agree (it's 6 not 4) the task is hard with our thin squad and we seem to have no money to spend in January even for loans.
What we have to do is continue putting in the hard work like we did today and ensuring that we take 3 points from inferior sides.
When you look at where Pompey & QPR are in the table , it's a shame we've dropped 4 points against them.
When you look at Coventry winning 3-0 at Boro , you have to wonder how we lost there.
It's tough to keep grinding out the wins but next May the 2 clubs who do that will prevail.
Today we played on the front foot and worked hard enough to make our talent count - it was a thoroughly praiseworthy performance.
We should never again this season approach matches in a fearful negative fashion as we did at Leeds & Boro.
Fortune favours the brave.

Spot on mate ,please no more back against the wall performances from the kick off . We only play well when we play on the front foot .that's our strength along with a good defence . As for parachute payments they are a must for promoted teams ,they allow them to invest in prem quality players without fear of having to pay prem league wages when they get relegated again the year after . Teams have to invest in top quality players to compete in the prem (apart from us) . The tractor men got promoted without para money as we did the first time around and we did not spend millions and millions this year either to assemble a good team like other fans seem to think ,Wilder played a brilliant hand getting quality in for next to nowt , parachute money had nothing to do with the rebuild ,just good management and judgement and brilliant timing recruiting players at the end of their contracts at their parent clubs . Plus Wilder does a good job selling the club to top quality players he brings in on loan also we have a reputation bring on good young'uns from top clubs . The team Wilder has built has sod all to do with parachute payments just good wheeling and dealing in the market and it has to be said with one arm tied behind his back he has worked miracles .

 

[espoo blade]

When we beat them 5-0 next Sunday. Would Remembrance Day massacre be a bit too near the knuckle to be popular a meme.

Somewhere there's a piggy version of Roy collecting these kind of comments...let's hope they don't come back to bite us on the arse because we're starting to sound a lot like the comments on the Pre-Match View From before Bouncing Day

 

[Ginger Gnome]

When we beat them 5-0 next Sunday. Would Remembrance Day massacre be a bit too near the knuckle to be popular a meme.

Yes, very inappropriate, let's call it something less controversial like 10/11

 

[SUFC Guy]

Thanks Roy. Now I just want to see the same type of comments on 'Roy's View From...' next Sunday afternoon.

IF we win, it will be because...

• The ref
• Never was a penalty
• We had 3 blatant penalties turned down
• Failure payments
• Hamer should have been sent off
• We could have took an extra 3000k
• The pigeons
• The birth of the universe
• Alan is a ....

 

[zeroBouncing]

Yet again, opposition fans comment "they never got out of 2nd gear", it's a common theme.
Even us Blades says it too, we didn't need to get out of 2nd gear and still strolled to a comfortable win.

However I do wonder if we have a 3rd, 4th and 5th gear?
because we've never looked like steam rolling and totally playing a team off the park in any of our matches so far this season.

We always look defensively so solid and play in a more pragmatic cautious style racking up 3 points, with the attitude, a win is a win,
instead of going full pelt playing open attacking football racking up a 5 or 6 nil.

Next week - I think we see 3rd and 4th gear even if we are winning.

Wilder is a Blade and I wonder what it will take to stop them singing their "only song" about Boxing day - which was 4-0 at home.

If we beat them more than 4-0 does that mean their song is no longer valid and we own those rights ?

We've got a few to choose from
"because of Poppy Day" ?
"because of Remembrance Day" ? - which would be shortened to Membrance day to make it more singable ?
"because of "Guy Fawkes day" ?

 

[itsinyerblood]

Probably the best set of opinions from opposing supporters we'll see. Don't quite get this idea that we've spent millions, suppose it's all relative but
what we have done is identify decent players who are solid, dependable professionals and built a new team around this base.

 

[JohnDenver]

On Blackburn - I thought they were decent up to the penalty area and until about 60 mins. They planned to nick the ball in midfield and punish us with quick breaks, but just lacked the quality to finish it off. And they really did lose shape and belief quite badly later in the game. That’s a credit to us given how well they’ve done at home.

But for a club with eccentric ownership, and off the back of an awkward season, they looked thoroughly mid table. Which ought to be acceptable.

Was also impressed with Cantwell who might be a nob, but looked surprisingly committed.

 

[Flumps]

Fl... Flatter than a witches tit?

 

[wadblade]

All really good comments they couldn’t really say anything else after that performance

Only weird one was was that odd comment about us being good at the “dark arts” presumably these were learnt when the management team went to Hogwarts…

(Wilder definitely would have been in Slytherin and Alan Knill in Hufflepuff)

Not so much Dark arts, this team just suck the life out of the opposition, they all just look thoroughly drained by the hour mark

 

[Fitzpatrick’s head cover]

One of the best “View from”s that I’ve ever read. Very enjoyable.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

Somewhere there's a piggy version of Roy collecting these kind of comments...let's hope they don't come back to bite us on the arse because we're starting to sound a lot like the comments on the Pre-Match View From before Bouncing Day

These days, I’d like to think we annoy those delusional bastards far more than they annoy us. We are Blades…we’re very comfortable in our own skin, we don’t go round thinking the Premier league is missing us.

 

[Original United]

Our signings this season have been funded by selling an academy player not by parachute (sorry failure) payment

 

[Sheffsteel]

Probably the best set of opinions from opposing supporters we'll see. Don't quite get this idea that we've spent millions, suppose it's all relative but
what we have done is identify decent players who are solid, dependable professionals and built a new team around this base.

Loads of other teams in the Championship wanted some of our signings but our finances meant we could blow them out of the water regards budget.

We might not have spent much on transfers but we have one of the biggest player salary budgets in the league. Also agree with the earlier comment that our player sales have been a huge help and the players we sold weren’t even that good.

 

[Yoonited]

Yet again, opposition fans comment "they never got out of 2nd gear", it's a common theme.
Even us Blades says it too, we didn't need to get out of 2nd gear and still strolled to a comfortable win.

However I do wonder if we have a 3rd, 4th and 5th gear?
because we've never looked like steam rolling and totally playing a team off the park in any of our matches so far this season.

We always look defensively so solid and play in a more pragmatic cautious style racking up 3 points, with the attitude, a win is a win,
instead of going full pelt playing open attacking football racking up a 5 or 6 nil.

We're saving it for next Sunday.
There, that's put the mockers on it nah.
Their defence is utter dogshit and won't be relishing facing Moore and hopefully Campbell.

 

[100% part time blade]

I do think they are a huge advantage in comparison to 10 years ago because Championship clubs lose so much money that nobody can usually match the finances of relegated clubs but it can be done. When was the last time the 3 parachute payment teams went straight back up? Us, Luton, Ipswich, Leeds Forest, Norwich and Brentford have all done it in recent season while clubs such as Coventry, Boro, Huddersfield, Sunderland and Barnsley have all gone close too

Never. There has never been a season where all three relegated teams have been promoted back to the premier league. It’s clearly very possible to compete without parachute payments from the previous season as at least one team gets promoted that way every year.

Last season was so close to being unique with all three promoted clubs going down and all three relegated ones coming up: it was only Leeds’ dramatic collapse and Ipswich’s impressive staying power that prevented it - but it would have been an extraordinary thing if it had happened.

 

[JJBlade]

Yet again, opposition fans comment "they never got out of 2nd gear", it's a common theme.
Even us Blades says it too, we didn't need to get out of 2nd gear and still strolled to a comfortable win.

However I do wonder if we have a 3rd, 4th and 5th gear?
because we've never looked like steam rolling and totally playing a team off the park in any of our matches so far this season.

We always look defensively so solid and play in a more pragmatic cautious style racking up 3 points, with the attitude, a win is a win,
instead of going full pelt playing open attacking football racking up a 5 or 6 nil.

Yes
Not getting out of second gear is a compliment to some sides.
It isn't a compliment to us because we never get out of second gear, it's our default setting. Steady, careful, watch it, boring, crap, methodical, pragmatic, workmanlike, focused.

If it was mixed with a bit of flair, skill, creativity and pace it would be fantastic, the sad thing is with Hamer, O'Hare. Rak Sakyi, Brooks we've got all that in spades.

I actually sighed when we signed O'Hare, it just looked like another Leon Britton to me.
I just knew he'd struggle here, he's just as skilful as Hamer but Hamer has that devilment in him to mix it up a bit.
O'Hare is a skilful player without any of that devilment, and he will only shine in a team that plays an ambitious game.

 

[Northyorksblade]

Yes
Not getting out of second gear is a compliment to some sides.
It isn't a compliment to us because we never get out of second gear, it's our default setting. Steady, careful, watch it, boring, crap, methodical, pragmatic, workmanlike, focused.

If it was mixed with a bit of flair, skill, creativity and pace it would be fantastic, the sad thing is with Hamer, O'Hare. Rak Sakyi, Brooks we've got all that in spades.

I actually sighed when we signed O'Hare, it just looked like another Leon Britton to me.
I just knew he'd struggle here, he's just as skilful as Hamer but Hamer has that devilment in him to mix it up a bit.
O'Hare is a skilful player without any of that devilment, and he will only shine in a team that plays an ambitious game.

What an absolute load of tosh.......imho

 

[joe casey]

I sympathise with the non-parachute clubs , but I wouldn't want our players reading this because we can ill-afford complacency.
The financial pressure we are under to get promoted is huge and the 2-point deduction makes our job very difficult given that our play-off record means autos are a must.
An earlier post on another thread says we are in a mini-league of 4 with Mackems , Dirties & Clarets.
Whilst I don't quite agree (it's 6 not 4) the task is hard with our thin squad and we seem to have no money to spend in January even for loans.
What we have to do is continue putting in the hard work like we did today and ensuring that we take 3 points from inferior sides.
When you look at where Pompey & QPR are in the table , it's a shame we've dropped 4 points against them.
When you look at Coventry winning 3-0 at Boro , you have to wonder how we lost there.
It's tough to keep grinding out the wins but next May the 2 clubs who do that will prevail.
Today we played on the front foot and worked hard enough to make our talent count - it was a thoroughly praiseworthy performance.
We should never again this season approach matches in a fearful negative fashion as we did at Leeds & Boro.
Fortune favours the brave.

Agree with all this but just to say Coventry were helped by Boro being down to 10 very early on - we might have managed an attack or two if they'd done the same against us

 

[JJBlade]

What an absolute load of tosh.......imho

Ok

 

[Keen Blade]

Agree with all this but just to say Coventry were helped by Boro being down to 10 very early on - we might have managed an attack or two if they'd done the same against us

Thanks , I didn't know

 

[nopigfansintown]

Loads of other teams in the Championship wanted some of our signings but our finances meant we could blow them out of the water regards budget.

We might not have spent much on transfers but we have one of the biggest player salary budgets in the league. Also agree with the earlier comment that our player sales have been a huge help and the players we sold weren’t even that good.

I think there's some truth in that but it doesn't tell the whole story.

One permanent signing in five windows prior to promotion.

Most Prem incomings offset by outgoings.

Big exodus in the last window.

Small squad

Six first team players made up of academy lads

I doubt the permanent prem incomings came in on big wages (maybe Hamer). I think this years loan lads and the likes of O'Hare and Moore will be on big money at this level. I'd be shocked if our wage bill is at the level it was when we were last relegated from the Prem.

 

[103SecondsOfMagic]

Spot on mate ,please no more back against the wall performances from the kick off . We only play well when we play on the front foot .that's our strength along with a good defence . As for parachute payments they are a must for promoted teams ,they allow them to invest in prem quality players without fear of having to pay prem league wages when they get relegated again the year after . Teams have to invest in top quality players to compete in the prem (apart from us) . The tractor men got promoted without para money as we did the first time around and we did not spend millions and millions this year either to assemble a good team like other fans seem to think ,Wilder played a brilliant hand getting quality in for next to nowt , parachute money had nothing to do with the rebuild ,just good management and judgement and brilliant timing recruiting players at the end of their contracts at their parent clubs . Plus Wilder does a good job selling the club to top quality players he brings in on loan also we have a reputation bring on good young'uns from top clubs . The team Wilder has built has sod all to do with parachute payments just good wheeling and dealing in the market and it has to be said with one arm tied behind his back he has worked miracles .

And also pay them a fuck ton

 

[petcharlie]

And also pay them a fuck ton

A fuck ton , sorry ?

 

[Keen Blade]

I think there's some truth in that but it doesn't tell the whole story.

One permanent signing in five windows prior to promotion.

Most Prem incomings offset by outgoings.

Big exodus in the last window.

Small squad

Six first team players made up of academy lads

I doubt the permanent prem incomings came in on big wages (maybe Hamer). I think this years loan lads and the likes of O'Hare and Moore will be on big money at this level. I'd be shocked if our wage bill is at the level it was when we were last relegated from the Prem.

I was very surprised that we didn't fill our two loan spaces with much needed cover for CB & Striker.
No transfer fee needed and no permanent commitment to wages.
But I guess the owner is keeping the budget under control in attempt to minimise the inevitable losses of being in the Championship.
Plus the desire to invest at Dore before the parachutes stop.
That said , I am quietly hoping if we are near the top come January , he will bring in a couple of loans to strengthen us for the "business end of the season".