VAR favouring top teams

[Speedracer]

What?
Now you're arguing against your point.

You said....

"Premier League refs have always favoured the bigger clubs, that's where the money is."


The referee, on the pitch, wrongly awarded Sheffield United 5 goals so far this season, the most in the league.
How is that helping the big clubs?

The "Lundstram Toe Goal" should most certainly have been awarded, the technology isn't accurate enough to capture the exact moment clearly enough to be able to say with certainty either way, so not a clear & obvious error.

 

[Tony Kenworthy’s toe]

Pre VAR a linesman might still flag that if he sees it. As it changed the direction of the ball.

Fleck did since he headed the ball.

Clearly you didn’t see it then as it was No12 Egan. As I said not one of your players spotted it. Every single one of your players at the time of the goal looks dejected when the ball went in, nobody was calling on the Ref.
VAR benefitted you, quit being the the hard done by.

see 2:10 onwards.

 

[CentralQuay]

The "Lundstram Toe Goal" should most certainly have been awarded, the technology isn't accurate enough to capture the exact moment clearly enough to be able to say with certainty either way, so not a clear & obvious error.

There have been equally tight decisions this season.
Wolves had one I can remember that was just as close.

Same standard for all, lets not kid ourselves.

 

[Speedracer]

I don't care about decisions for or against other clubs unless we are playing them at the time (or at least not in the same way).

I haven't suggested otherwise regarding standards, of course they should be the same for everyone, goes without saying, parity for all.

 

[west_yorks_blade]

I don't care about decisions for or against other clubs unless we are playing them at the time (or at least not in the same way).

Well you are after all a Sheffield United supporter posting on a Sheffield United forum, unlike at least two people who are arguing with blades prolifically on multiple threads currently.

Am I the only one who is getting really bored by them now?

 

[Speedracer]

Am I the only one who is getting really bored by them now?

I find it slightly ironic that we have been told in no uncertain terms that abuse will not be tolerated, but fans of other clubs seem to be given free reign to wind us up at will.

I am all for free speech & generally see it as a good thing that fans of other teams are allowed/encouraged to post here, unlike certain other forums we know, but some just take the opportunity to bait us ad infinitum.

 

[Bladesman]

Clearly you didn’t see it then as it was No12 Egan. As I said not one of your players spotted it. Every single one of your players at the time of the goal looks dejected when the ball went in, nobody was calling on the Ref.
VAR benefitted you, quit being the the hard done by.

see 2:10 onwards.

That is what VAR is for though. To spot a clear and obvious error which that is.

The ball goes past Rice if he doesn't have his arm out.

 

[PokerBlade]

VAR not needed to get involved as GLT didn’t signal a goal.

As I've said in other threads, the whole purpose of having multiple systems governing the game is that if one fails the others will correct for it. It's why there's a ref and two linesmen, it's why we brought in the goal-line tech, and it's why we brought in VAR. The point is NOT so that everyone can absolve themselves of any responsibility for a bad decision. What we've learned from the Villa game is that nobody seemed aware that Hawkeye can fail, and nobody was aware of what to do or how to tell that it had failed. So Hawkeye says "rare event not our fault" and the ref says "I was relying on Hawkeye, not my fault", and the VAR team says "Unique situation, we don't get involved for that".

Good job we have you here to do the apologetics for them.

 

[Ridgeway Blade]

So you're complaining that it's a conspiracy, yet agreeing that it was a foul and therefore the penalty decision was correct?

I was really thinking how often an event like we had last week is, in reality, seemingly overlooked as just one of those things and yet last night the VAR team intervened some 30 seconds after a period of play had taken place with no apparent appeal by any players or managers about the lack of a decision at the time of the incident. The whole idea of the technology, Hawkeye and VAR is to prevent clear and obvious errors being made. The sytem failed on all counts last week but I am not convinced the failure of the ref to give a penalty last night would count as a a clear and obvious error.

 

[CentralQuay]

I was really thinking how often an event like we had last week is, in reality, seemingly overlooked as just one of those things and yet last night the VAR team intervened some 30 seconds after a period of play had taken place with no apparent appeal by any players or managers about the lack of a decision at the time of the incident. The whole idea of the technology, Hawkeye and VAR is to prevent clear and obvious errors being made. The sytem failed on all counts last week but I am not convinced the failure of the ref to give a penalty last night would count as a a clear and obvious error.

Everybody accepts the 'non-goal' at Villa was a mistake.

It was not "seemingly overlooked as just one of those things", it was on multiple pieces of sports media, whilst Hawkeye also publicly apologized, even multiple ex referees got involved criticizing VAR for not intervening.

As for last night Micah Richards and Souness both criticized the decision to give a penalty, and today has seen the same criticism of it on SSN.

 

[Trigger Blade]

Clearly you didn’t see it then as it was No12 Egan. As I said not one of your players spotted it. Every single one of your players at the time of the goal looks dejected when the ball went in, nobody was calling on the Ref.
VAR benefitted you, quit being the the hard done by.

see 2:10 onwards.

Yes, Egan not Fleck, good detailed knowledge of our team. On that occasion, we benefitted unexpectedly from a VAR decision, that’s been a very rare thing, which is the point being made.

 

[CentralQuay]

Yes, Egan not Fleck, good detailed knowledge of our team. On that occasion, we benefitted unexpectedly from a VAR decision, that’s been a very rare thing, which is the point being made.

Besides the Villa incident, when has it gone against?

 

[originaltrueblade]

So why have those referees favoured Sheffield United more than any other club this season?
(5 goals wrongly given before VAR came to the correct decision).

Why do you keep calling us Sheffield United we are the original you can call us United or Blades.....now Blades fans in conversion I’ve had over the decades don’t refer to us as Sheffield United we say United, Blades or we ......

 

[CentralQuay]

Why do you keep calling us Sheffield United we are the original you can call us United or Blades.....now Blades fans in conversion I’ve had over the decades don’t refer to us as Sheffield United we say United, Blades or we ......

Sometimes I say Sheffield United, sometimes Blades......

Not sure the relevancy.

 

[originaltrueblade]

Sometimes I say Sheffield United, sometimes Blades......

Not sure the relevancy.

If you can’t work out why I asked you then that says it all

 

[CentralQuay]

If you can’t work out why I asked you then that says it all

I knew why you asked me, and you knew the answer.

I fail to see why you cant answer my question.

 

[Bladesman]

Besides the Villa incident, when has it gone against?

Just to name a few...

Didsy's goal at Spurs (different angles don't show Lundstram offside and it was a different phase of play)
Red card not given for a foul off the ball on Norwood away at Bournemouth
Blatant handball penalty not given at home against Southampton

 

[Tony Kenworthy’s toe]

Why do you keep calling us Sheffield United we are the original you can call us United or Blades.....now Blades fans in conversion I’ve had over the decades don’t refer to us as Sheffield United we say United, Blades or we ......

Wednesday are the original Blades

 

[Sean Thornton]

Wednesday are the original Blades

That was the original Wendy though. The ones at the wrongdoing hearing today have only been around since 1990. They've carried on the old lots traditions of dodgy behaviour though.

 

[Sean Thornton]

If you can’t work out why I asked you then that says it all

He's no Blade, season ticket once upon a time or not. Just wants to nitpick a bit.

 

[Trigger Blade]

Besides the Villa incident, when has it gone against?

Most notably, the offside at Spurs, where VAR went back to a previous phase of play to adjudicate that part of John Lundstram’s foot was offside and which cost Us 2 points. That decision was universally criticised as wrong. There was also a handball missed by VAR in the Build up to the Southampton goal, which should have been disallowed, that cost us a point.

 

[Niceguyeddie]

Don’t remember much of a conspiracy against you when Declan Rice had “handled” the ball.

That's because he ' handled ' the ball

 

[Sean Thornton]

That's because he ' handled ' the ball

Other than that, his arguments sound though.


Err.......

 

[Tony Kenworthy’s toe]

That's because he ' handled ' the ball

I‘m a bit old school as that aint handball in my book but the daft rules these days say it is.
My point is it wasn’t spotted in normal play, only picked up by VAR which is what you‘re all so against as you never benefit from it.

 

[Niceguyeddie]

I‘m a bit old school as that aint handball in my book but the daft rules these days say it is.
My point is it wasn’t spotted in normal play, only picked up by VAR which is what you‘re all so against as you never benefit from it.

Really mature adult argument that mate

 

[originaltrueblade]

He's no Blade, season ticket once upon a time or not. Just wants to nitpick a bit.

I know mate Pork can smell it a Mile off

 

[CentralQuay]

I know mate Pork can smell it a Mile off

What is the association with Leicester and pork?

Unless it's some kind of racist comment towards our high population of muslims?

 

[CentralQuay]

50/50 penalty given to Brighton....
50/50 penalty not given to Leicester....

Must be a ploy to give Man United top 4.

 

[bromtom]

Tottingham have just been Lundstram's toed. A bit of justice.

 

[Bladesman]