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based purely on financial outlay, are we placed wll enough to say weve had value for our outlay

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what weve sold in last 5 years compared to some makes a lie of the claim we are a selling club
forest have sold to 8 times the value we have in last 5 years

hull have sold 114m pounds worth of players in 5 yearswednesday must ruin players , never get any money back on their players
which will continue as their current squad cost alot and they wont get diddly for it

hard to believe prestons only made 300k from sale
 
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based purely on financial outlay, are we placed wll enough to say weve had value for our outlay

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what weve sold in last 5 years compared to some makes a lie of the claim we are a selling club
forest have sold to 8 times the value we have in last 5 years

hull have sold 114m pounds worth of players in 5 yearswednesday must ruin players , never get any money back on their players
which will continue as their current squad cost alot and they wont get diddly for it

hard to believe prestons only made 300k from sale

All that shows is the fact that we've sold the absolute cream of the academy for ridiculously low prices and bought their replacements for the same outlay .

Why sell the cream of the crop ???

I thought I'd get that in early doors ;)

All jesting aside, we are the sixth lowest spenders in the division in the last 5 years . Would a fairer comparison illustrate how we fared in League 1 ?
 
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Interesting stats but stand alone doesn't mean a great deal
 
So does that mean our last 5 seasons in the Championship, or THE last 5 seasons ?

QPR 65M, scary :eek:
 
We sold:
Maguire, Murphy, Adams, Calvert-Lewin, Ramsdale for 6.25m, have I missed anybody significant?
 
based purely on financial outlay, are we placed wll enough to say weve had value for our outlay

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what weve sold in last 5 years compared to some makes a lie of the claim we are a selling club
forest have sold to 8 times the value we have in last 5 years

hull have sold 114m pounds worth of players in 5 yearswednesday must ruin players , never get any money back on their players
which will continue as their current squad cost alot and they wont get diddly for it

hard to believe prestons only made 300k from sale
No we have made more than that by a distance. Haven’t really sold anybody significant bar Hugill for £10M but not sure if he’s counted. If he’s not then Garner for £1.5 million and Bailey Wright for around £500k and that’s £2M already without going into much thought.
 
we have sold the cream ,really?

to be fair any club that sells a player can only do it if they have value

we havent sold that many in 5 years compared to 20 other clubs in this division
for hull to have sold 110m quids worth they must have sold the entire creamery and a butter factory

forest have sold 50m quids worth of cream
 
the detail that wednesday have spent 42m nett on players to our 300k nett emphasises how well CW is juggling the money
villa have spent nett 82m on players in 5 seasons, which to us is mind boggling
 
Looking at those figures, it might be too easy to draw the following conclusion, that whoever has had control of this club has never had enough of what it takes to enable us to compete at a far higher level. Of course, what we have seen under the management of Wilder is that it's possible to find players who, according to their market value, have been able to integrate alongside other similarly valued players and raise their performances to a level where we can compete, but so far and no further. There's both positive and negative conclusions in that analysis, but don't think I subscribe to the idea that spending huge amounts of money will deliver success, because it won't. Ambition and assumption often become entwined, and usually incorrectly in my view.

For the very top teams there's only one place to be, that's as the leading club in their domestic competition. The difficulty with this approach is that there are several clubs competing for the same golden prize, thus what follows is that fans of the supposedly 'less' successful clubs seem to think they're not doing enough to bring that golden goose to their club, and thus this circle goes around and around, season after season. Of course there is the unusual interruption of a lesser club such as Leicester, who, in their astonishing season when they deservedly became Champions of the Premiership, showed everyone what could happen if certain stars aligned and the wind was blowing in the right direction. A season like this resurrected the belief that there was a chance for every club across the nation.....of course, the sceptical amongst us don't actually believe this will happen too often. Order will be returned to, money will flow, wages will rise, and so will admission prices too. The fans will pay a fair percentage of the income that swirls around the income streams that football generates, and the likes of United will have to find a way to lift us beyond our current status of Championship hopefuls.

We're a low to middling football club. The infrastructure that we hear so much about only becomes relevant if a relatively wealthy person were to take control of this club and then use what we have and lift it to levels we had never previously considered. Don't misunderstand what I'm saying. I'm a Blade to my dying days, it's just the way it is. It's part of my DNA, it's who I follow, and it's the closest I'll ever get to adopting a religious fervour for anything outside of religion (I speak as a born-again-atheist). Of course, I accept that football isn't the most important thing in life, but it's close. Football lifts and inspires. At it's best it's the most thrilling sporting activity I can imagine, at it's worst it's as dull as dishwater.

So, returning to money, how lovely it would be if we somehow managed to attract a moneybags, but it will only make sense if we have a manager who has a trained and informed eye for the type of player who can lift us above our current level of 'ok-ness'.........oh well, I can but dream.
 
success in football is unfortunately comensurate with success in attracting a billionaire

millionaires are ok for mid championship teams , mccabe is only worh mid table

its jut how it is
 
Significant issues regards those stats is

1: Salaries, if a play arrives on a free transfer then some fans think he was free.
However of course agents just factor in a notional transfer fee to negotiate inflated salaries.
SW bought several players in frees or low transfers but paid out huge salaries instead.

2: These days quite often transfer fees and salaries are non disclosed.
So most of those figures will be guess work and not accurate.
 
success in football is unfortunately comensurate with success in attracting a billionaire

millionaires are ok for mid championship teams , mccabe is only worh mid table

its jut how it is

So what went wrong done at S6 then, with their tuna fish billionaire?
Wealth and massive expenditure gives no gaurantees and can actually upset the camp and cause problems.
 



So what went wrong done at S6 then, with their tuna fish billionaire?
Wealth and massive expenditure gives no gaurantees and can actually upset the camp and cause problems.
but one 40m burst is just a sticking plaster, that got them in 2 play offs , spent less than us this season
 
The only manager who appears to get any kudos is Warnock considering his tenure was upper champ & prem. Its been downhill since I'm afraid. One for the anti-Warnock camp to ponder.
was nothing like the financial gulf there is now . In 2003 man utd bought pallister for 4m
now its 85m on pogba

we paid 4m for davis 3 years later in 2006 , but no way will we be buying oomeone for 85m in 3 years time

when we were doing ok under warnock , other teams were not spending 75m on players in the championship
 
was nothing like the financial gulf there is now . In 2003 man utd bought pallister for 4m
now its 85m on pogba

we paid 4m for davis 3 years later in 2006 , but no way will we be buying oomeone for 85m in 3 years time

when we were doing ok under warnock , other teams were not spending 75m on players in the championship

The £60m Fergie spent on Van Nistleroy, Veron and Rooney don't count then?
 
was nothing like the financial gulf there is now . In 2003 man utd bought pallister for 4m
now its 85m on pogba

we paid 4m for davis 3 years later in 2006 , but no way will we be buying oomeone for 85m in 3 years time

when we were doing ok under warnock , other teams were not spending 75m on players in the championship

Might be wrong, but fairly sure Pallister was long retired by 2004. Man Utd signed him in about 1989. By 2004 they were regularly paying £30m for players.
 
Might be wrong, but fairly sure Pallister was long retired by 2004. Man Utd signed him in about 1989. By 2004 they were regularly paying £30m for players.
Yes meant 1994
just every year since then it increases for the top 6 what they spend leaving us further behind. There's only 3 trophies available to win in England sovtheres a lot of investment lashed out for very little return. Spurs the prime example . Spent a billion in the last decade and won as much as we have
 
To the OP, these are skewed figures as we’ve only had one season of spending in the championship. I think it’s safe to assume that if we’d had 5 years in the championship we would have had to spend much more than we have gotten away with in the last 5 years.

Does emphasise that we are working on a much smaller budget transfer wise than others and also that we sell players for a pittance, however league 1 players no matter of potential won’t go for top dollar unless they have experience higher up the leagues.
 
Wednesdays money has been well spent hasn't it.

Out of their 44m - 2m in sales I wonder how much of that 42m they could recoup now?

50 pence and a mars bar
 

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