United 0 Millwall 1 - report/ratings

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I hardly dare say this, but when I watched the very brief (3 minutes) highlights, it looks like we had plenty of chances or half chances to score a few.

Abysmal in first half. 2nd was better but never really got a grip on it.

Their GK pulled off 3 reyt saves, we hit post and had 2 cleared off line.. but even if those had gone in, we probably wouldn't have deserved to win the game, if you get me.

1-1 was a fair result
 

Burrows will never be a defender and has no place in a back 4.

His complete lack of defensive discipline cost us their first goal at Wembley, and yet again yesterday.

Until we learn how to score goals we cannot afford to build from anything but solid, organised discipline at the back.

UTB & FTP!
 
Apart from Selles' shortcomings, the biggest factor this season IMO is the loss of Souza in midfield. It wouldn't be so bad if Tom Davies and/or Arblaster was available. Peck tries but can't cope on his own and opposing teams will continue to run straight through us until midfield is properly shored up.
 
Do United actually watch live the players that they sign ? Or is it done through film or stats or even worse sold to them by agents or the selling club ? We have been so bad at recruiting in recent years something is not right.
Anel
Burrows
Hamer
Campbell
O hare
Cooper
MGW on loan
Macatee on loan
Doyle on loan
 
Apart from Selles' shortcomings, the biggest factor this season IMO is the loss of Souza in midfield. It wouldn't be so bad if Tom Davies and/or Arblaster was available. Peck tries but can't cope on his own and opposing teams will continue to run straight through us until midfield is properly shored up.
That's why it was baffling that Soumare didnt play. Hes big, mobile and gets stuck in and looked decent on the ball at Swansea
 
I don't agree with the criticism of Hamer. Does he look like he's sulking? Yeah I think so, at least a bit (as do a couple of others). Is his discipline (in terms of dissent etc) poor? Yes, as always. But does he look like his conditioning is poor and is he "waddling" around? Not for me. He's played 90 minutes in every league game so far and must be up there in terms of sprints and distance covered. I think 'fat, lazy Hamer who always comes off after an hour' became a thing last season even though the facts showed it wasn't true.

In the first weekend of the season, the excellent Fotmob app had physical data for all Premier League matches so you could see how far each player had run and how quickly. I would love to see that data for United games so we'd know once and for all if Gus just waddles around. I might well be mis-remembering when it was in the game but Hamer was still sprinting after a Cooper long throw long into the 2nd half. I also thought he was the catalyst for the more encouraging last 20-25 minutes and showed some character to drag us forward.

When Wilder was sacked, my main problem was the timing. In our last year of parachute payments, I thought short-term thinking was essential and we needed to go with the safest option. I did have a problem with the attacking fluidity Wilder managed to achieve and I was hopeful we'd tweak something behind the scenes to address this - whether that was the coaching staff or our approach to this element of the game. I wasn't thrilled to see us linked with the likes of Mepham but I was hopeful that we'd add some of the on-pitch nous that was so badly lacking in the last 20 minutes v Sunderland to complement what we had.

As I've reflected more, and obviously this is with the benefit of hindsight to some degree, I also now think we're a step behind in terms of what we think is the modern approach and the best way to do things. I think we're going to see more and more teams playing 4-4-2, more teams going direct at times to beat the press and we're already seeing the big number 9 coming back into fashion. I'm not saying we'd headed down that path last season because Chris Wilder is a forward thinking, football genius but I do think he'd seen a way of beating what a lot of teams (notably Bristol City) were doing and I thought there was a lot of promise in how we looked in that set up (particularly given our front two)

I also think that the vast majority of United fans would be shocked if they had an insight into the level and quality of some of the work that has been done behind the scenes at United. I think we, as a fanbase, look at two local lads in Heckingbottom and Wilder and just think it's all about passion and the United way but that's totally wrong. There were some incredibly modern thinking and approaches being used and there was an incredible depth of work in terms of player development and preparation. I read some of the stuff posted on here and on social media and the simplicity of thinking is just incredible really. A corner doesn't beat the first man so we must not work on set pieces. A striker misses a chance so the coaching is poor. I can think of one goal in particular that was the result of something the team had studied and worked on but I can pretty much guarantee that no-one (including me at the time) thought "wow, that's come from great preparation". I hope Wilder looks back with some regret on what happened after the Wednesday games and the Plymouth game because it's this sort of thing that stops him being taking as seriously as he deserves to be.

I know this sort of thing is being talked about on the highest level UEFA coaching courses and I do worry that we've jumped on a trend just as it's been found out and football is heading off in a different direction (as it always does). Of course, Selles might be thinking this and might be looking to change our style once he can get the players in - maybe he has it in him to become a modern, tactical manager who is also pragmatic like Thomas Frank. Yesterday's formation and side wasn't encouraging in that regard though.

I'd love to hear Selles explain (and maybe has somewhere, not caught up with any interviews yet) why he played Cannon on the right. I just can't see any logic or explanation as to why that might work. I wasn't pleased when we signed Cannon. Personally, I like strikers to have at least one stand-out physical attribute whether that's speed or strength or height and Cannon has none. I also struggled a bit with Billy Sharp for the same reason but he proved me wrong time and time again. Regardless of that, playing him on the right wing is just throwing him under the bus - what can he do from that position?

Our squad now looks full of holes, is lacking in both depth and quality and is horribly unbalanced. Not much that we've done has worked. When we looked to shore things up a bit at Swansea, we had no attacking threat and although yesterday we looked more balanced than we did v Bristol City, there were long spells when we were horribly poor.

I'm also struggling with the strategy of the club as a whole. If we're looking to bring in young players with potential and then sell them on for a profit, then why all the loans?

I would be against sacking Selles at this point. He's not been dealt a great hand by the board to say the least and it's early days. I also think we have had a couple of short spells in the two home games when we've looked good. I'd like him to bring in a more experienced, ex-player assistant manager but appreciate that would have to be someone he's comfortable working with and that might be difficult. I think if we end the window without a centre-back, a right winger, an athletic central midfielder and a striker coming in, we're going to continue to struggle.

I'd love the club to come out and explain the strategy but I don't think there's any obligation for them to do that - I'd just like to be reassured that there's a plan.

Very hard to think of a side which looks balanced and has the right people in the right places at the moment but I would like us to get someone up front with Campbell who looked totally isolated yesterday. 3-5-2 is completely out of fashion now although I think it would probably help a few of our players.

At this moment, it feels easier to envisage a downwards spiral than a serious promotion challenge. Some important days ahead.
 
I don't agree with the criticism of Hamer. Does he look like he's sulking? Yeah I think so, at least a bit (as do a couple of others). Is his discipline (in terms of dissent etc) poor? Yes, as always. But does he look like his conditioning is poor and is he "waddling" around? Not for me. He's played 90 minutes in every league game so far and must be up there in terms of sprints and distance covered. I think 'fat, lazy Hamer who always comes off after an hour' became a thing last season even though the facts showed it wasn't true.

In the first weekend of the season, the excellent Fotmob app had physical data for all Premier League matches so you could see how far each player had run and how quickly. I would love to see that data for United games so we'd know once and for all if Gus just waddles around. I might well be mis-remembering when it was in the game but Hamer was still sprinting after a Cooper long throw long into the 2nd half. I also thought he was the catalyst for the more encouraging last 20-25 minutes and showed some character to drag us forward.

When Wilder was sacked, my main problem was the timing. In our last year of parachute payments, I thought short-term thinking was essential and we needed to go with the safest option. I did have a problem with the attacking fluidity Wilder managed to achieve and I was hopeful we'd tweak something behind the scenes to address this - whether that was the coaching staff or our approach to this element of the game. I wasn't thrilled to see us linked with the likes of Mepham but I was hopeful that we'd add some of the on-pitch nous that was so badly lacking in the last 20 minutes v Sunderland to complement what we had.

As I've reflected more, and obviously this is with the benefit of hindsight to some degree, I also now think we're a step behind in terms of what we think is the modern approach and the best way to do things. I think we're going to see more and more teams playing 4-4-2, more teams going direct at times to beat the press and we're already seeing the big number 9 coming back into fashion. I'm not saying we'd headed down that path last season because Chris Wilder is a forward thinking, football genius but I do think he'd seen a way of beating what a lot of teams (notably Bristol City) were doing and I thought there was a lot of promise in how we looked in that set up (particularly given our front two)

I also think that the vast majority of United fans would be shocked if they had an insight into the level and quality of some of the work that has been done behind the scenes at United. I think we, as a fanbase, look at two local lads in Heckingbottom and Wilder and just think it's all about passion and the United way but that's totally wrong. There were some incredibly modern thinking and approaches being used and there was an incredible depth of work in terms of player development and preparation. I read some of the stuff posted on here and on social media and the simplicity of thinking is just incredible really. A corner doesn't beat the first man so we must not work on set pieces. A striker misses a chance so the coaching is poor. I can think of one goal in particular that was the result of something the team had studied and worked on but I can pretty much guarantee that no-one (including me at the time) thought "wow, that's come from great preparation". I hope Wilder looks back with some regret on what happened after the Wednesday games and the Plymouth game because it's this sort of thing that stops him being taking as seriously as he deserves to be.

I know this sort of thing is being talked about on the highest level UEFA coaching courses and I do worry that we've jumped on a trend just as it's been found out and football is heading off in a different direction (as it always does). Of course, Selles might be thinking this and might be looking to change our style once he can get the players in - maybe he has it in him to become a modern, tactical manager who is also pragmatic like Thomas Frank. Yesterday's formation and side wasn't encouraging in that regard though.

I'd love to hear Selles explain (and maybe has somewhere, not caught up with any interviews yet) why he played Cannon on the right. I just can't see any logic or explanation as to why that might work. I wasn't pleased when we signed Cannon. Personally, I like strikers to have at least one stand-out physical attribute whether that's speed or strength or height and Cannon has none. I also struggled a bit with Billy Sharp for the same reason but he proved me wrong time and time again. Regardless of that, playing him on the right wing is just throwing him under the bus - what can he do from that position?

Our squad now looks full of holes, is lacking in both depth and quality and is horribly unbalanced. Not much that we've done has worked. When we looked to shore things up a bit at Swansea, we had no attacking threat and although yesterday we looked more balanced than we did v Bristol City, there were long spells when we were horribly poor.

I'm also struggling with the strategy of the club as a whole. If we're looking to bring in young players with potential and then sell them on for a profit, then why all the loans?

I would be against sacking Selles at this point. He's not been dealt a great hand by the board to say the least and it's early days. I also think we have had a couple of short spells in the two home games when we've looked good. I'd like him to bring in a more experienced, ex-player assistant manager but appreciate that would have to be someone he's comfortable working with and that might be difficult. I think if we end the window without a centre-back, a right winger, an athletic central midfielder and a striker coming in, we're going to continue to struggle.

I'd love the club to come out and explain the strategy but I don't think there's any obligation for them to do that - I'd just like to be reassured that there's a plan.

Very hard to think of a side which looks balanced and has the right people in the right places at the moment but I would like us to get someone up front with Campbell who looked totally isolated yesterday. 3-5-2 is completely out of fashion now although I think it would probably help a few of our players.

At this moment, it feels easier to envisage a downwards spiral than a serious promotion challenge. Some important days ahead.

Good post for me, agree with the vast majority but I disagree that we should give him more time. There is an immediacy to this season that requires us to have a proper crack at trying to get into the playoffs. I don’t think Selles has the pedigree nor the tactical nous / pragmatism to elevate the team. I’ve seen absolutely nothing from his team, apart from a spell where we looked good going forward because we threw everyone up front.
 
Apart from Selles' shortcomings, the biggest factor this season IMO is the loss of Souza in midfield. It wouldn't be so bad if Tom Davies and/or Arblaster was available. Peck tries but can't cope on his own and opposing teams will continue to run straight through us until midfield is properly shored up.
So play Soumare alongside Peck.

We need 2 holding mids if we're persistent with the wingers.
Hamer is dropping too deep to try and playmake and Peck is often stood isolated in the middle
 
We had enough chances in the second half, but just couldn't put them away.

I've said it before, but when Sydie is one of your taller players, you will have a problem in the middle of the park, O'Hare and Hamer are tiny blokes, no point looping any ball in the air as they won't win any headers (as we keep seeing).

Godfrey was probably the best player we had yesterday and he looked frustrated (at times) with what he saw in front of him.

Louie Barry put the effort in, but Burrows is way too slow behind him, not releasing the ball quick enough.

Who made the call to get rid of Chris Wilder, and, more importantly, who made the call to hire Ruben Selles? Who, on our board, are experienced football men who know what is needed?, who is "advising"?

I am hoping and praying for fourth from bottom, because I think that is the best we can do.
 
I don't agree with the criticism of Hamer. Does he look like he's sulking? Yeah I think so, at least a bit (as do a couple of others). Is his discipline (in terms of dissent etc) poor? Yes, as always. But does he look like his conditioning is poor and is he "waddling" around? Not for me. He's played 90 minutes in every league game so far and must be up there in terms of sprints and distance covered. I think 'fat, lazy Hamer who always comes off after an hour' became a thing last season even though the facts showed it wasn't true.

In the first weekend of the season, the excellent Fotmob app had physical data for all Premier League matches so you could see how far each player had run and how quickly. I would love to see that data for United games so we'd know once and for all if Gus just waddles around. I might well be mis-remembering when it was in the game but Hamer was still sprinting after a Cooper long throw long into the 2nd half. I also thought he was the catalyst for the more encouraging last 20-25 minutes and showed some character to drag us forward.

When Wilder was sacked, my main problem was the timing. In our last year of parachute payments, I thought short-term thinking was essential and we needed to go with the safest option. I did have a problem with the attacking fluidity Wilder managed to achieve and I was hopeful we'd tweak something behind the scenes to address this - whether that was the coaching staff or our approach to this element of the game. I wasn't thrilled to see us linked with the likes of Mepham but I was hopeful that we'd add some of the on-pitch nous that was so badly lacking in the last 20 minutes v Sunderland to complement what we had.

As I've reflected more, and obviously this is with the benefit of hindsight to some degree, I also now think we're a step behind in terms of what we think is the modern approach and the best way to do things. I think we're going to see more and more teams playing 4-4-2, more teams going direct at times to beat the press and we're already seeing the big number 9 coming back into fashion. I'm not saying we'd headed down that path last season because Chris Wilder is a forward thinking, football genius but I do think he'd seen a way of beating what a lot of teams (notably Bristol City) were doing and I thought there was a lot of promise in how we looked in that set up (particularly given our front two)

I also think that the vast majority of United fans would be shocked if they had an insight into the level and quality of some of the work that has been done behind the scenes at United. I think we, as a fanbase, look at two local lads in Heckingbottom and Wilder and just think it's all about passion and the United way but that's totally wrong. There were some incredibly modern thinking and approaches being used and there was an incredible depth of work in terms of player development and preparation. I read some of the stuff posted on here and on social media and the simplicity of thinking is just incredible really. A corner doesn't beat the first man so we must not work on set pieces. A striker misses a chance so the coaching is poor. I can think of one goal in particular that was the result of something the team had studied and worked on but I can pretty much guarantee that no-one (including me at the time) thought "wow, that's come from great preparation". I hope Wilder looks back with some regret on what happened after the Wednesday games and the Plymouth game because it's this sort of thing that stops him being taking as seriously as he deserves to be.

I know this sort of thing is being talked about on the highest level UEFA coaching courses and I do worry that we've jumped on a trend just as it's been found out and football is heading off in a different direction (as it always does). Of course, Selles might be thinking this and might be looking to change our style once he can get the players in - maybe he has it in him to become a modern, tactical manager who is also pragmatic like Thomas Frank. Yesterday's formation and side wasn't encouraging in that regard though.

I'd love to hear Selles explain (and maybe has somewhere, not caught up with any interviews yet) why he played Cannon on the right. I just can't see any logic or explanation as to why that might work. I wasn't pleased when we signed Cannon. Personally, I like strikers to have at least one stand-out physical attribute whether that's speed or strength or height and Cannon has none. I also struggled a bit with Billy Sharp for the same reason but he proved me wrong time and time again. Regardless of that, playing him on the right wing is just throwing him under the bus - what can he do from that position?

Our squad now looks full of holes, is lacking in both depth and quality and is horribly unbalanced. Not much that we've done has worked. When we looked to shore things up a bit at Swansea, we had no attacking threat and although yesterday we looked more balanced than we did v Bristol City, there were long spells when we were horribly poor.

I'm also struggling with the strategy of the club as a whole. If we're looking to bring in young players with potential and then sell them on for a profit, then why all the loans?

I would be against sacking Selles at this point. He's not been dealt a great hand by the board to say the least and it's early days. I also think we have had a couple of short spells in the two home games when we've looked good. I'd like him to bring in a more experienced, ex-player assistant manager but appreciate that would have to be someone he's comfortable working with and that might be difficult. I think if we end the window without a centre-back, a right winger, an athletic central midfielder and a striker coming in, we're going to continue to struggle.

I'd love the club to come out and explain the strategy but I don't think there's any obligation for them to do that - I'd just like to be reassured that there's a plan.

Very hard to think of a side which looks balanced and has the right people in the right places at the moment but I would like us to get someone up front with Campbell who looked totally isolated yesterday. 3-5-2 is completely out of fashion now although I think it would probably help a few of our players.

At this moment, it feels easier to envisage a downwards spiral than a serious promotion challenge. Some important days ahead.
I think the vast majority found last season a tough watch, but would have been happiest with Wilder sticking around but with some changes in his staff (it's harsh, but I think he should have parted with Knill a fair old while ago) and a loosening of playing style. I don't think there was any doubt that he coukd put together a very solid base. But I don't think, without outside assistance he could do much more going forward other than push another CF up there

A change is fine, but certainly agamble. A change without investment and planning is just bizarre.
 
Makes me wonder whether management style is playing a part.
Wilder was quite emotional, wore his heart on his sleeve, a good man manager and motivator.

Whereas Selles doesn’t show much emotion and has more of a monotone robot.

Maybe some players are finding the big difference in communication style to much of a culture shock
 
Ratings:



Cooper 6/10 – Made a few saves and no chance with goal. Badly exposed again and another day they could have scored a few more. His play was ok but not be surprised if a team comes for him looking at our decline – West Ham on reflection might have made a poor choice looking at the lad from Leicester’s form.



Godfrey 6/10 – Did ok. Steady debut and might have been our best outfield player – just by doing his job! Nothing amazing but defensively thought he was competent enough. Offered little going forward though not helped by the stationery Cannon of course. All the excitement of him and the Swedish lad seemed to mask the bigger issues to me. Not sure he moved the needle but today he looked savvier than Seriki. Looked bewildered a the lack of movement in front.



Burrows 4/10 – Continued his poor start to the season. Really good effort that hit the post of course but outside of this, he was sloppy in possession, and got caught out a few times. The goal he fails to react to the danger. They had a number of efforts down his side. Barry never even gets back into his own half sadly so that causes him more issues. His play on the ball has been careless but he looks slow and is getting overpowered in challenges when defending. Showing that as a left back he has real weaknesses that are being further exploited with the shape of the rest of the team,



Robinson 5/10 – He was ok. He had a few moments where he misplaced it and lost headers too much but against two bigger lads but overall thought he at least attacked the ball and won a few challenges. Not sure many others did. He may move on and may be someone we can do better from longer term but there are far bigger issues than him currently.



Bindon 3/10 – Thought he was poor and looks well below the standard required. Saw a lot defending him after the first few games but he does not win header/challenges and is weak physically. He also does not react or read things. The goal was a header he did not win and was slow again. He lost another header that nearly led to a second and ball watching on another when the lad Ivanovic should have scored. On the ball he is not great either and takes too long to do things. Just looks physically not at the level. A centre half without physicality or pace is no good at this level especially when he no anticipation. Sure, some will say others have been poor around him but I think he has been a major disappointment and just symbolises our side – passive and no character – which is harsh but he has to be able to impose himself if he wants to play this level or higher. When he went off and Godfrey came inside, we improved. Unless Tanganga signs, we may have to play Robinson and Godfrey in the middle and Seriki out wide to at least give us some size/pace in the middle that counters sides dominating us physically.



Peck 4.5/10 – Another disappointing performance but this system does not help him at all. Seems we just leave him on an island against 2-3 opponents and ask him to get on with it. He took Soumare out but then we ended up with him in the midfield and O’Hare and Hamer just showing no discipline to come back. The shape is horrible but the number of times he ran into trouble/or played a careless pass meant we never kept the ball either. Seems to have believed his own hype. If he is playing though we need a two in there as he is not good enough or disciplined to play as a lone holding midfielder. The formation is not helping but he still must be better at the work he does.



Hamer 3.5/10 – I think he has been way off it this season. One good shot saved but outside of that? A few passes across the field but he roved around and did not help the defensive side, picked up another stupid booking and sulked when the ball did not get to him. Maybe he wants to leave but his first three league performances have been not good enough. The shape and formation does not help – maybe Wilder was right to hide him on the wing – in this free role he is just roaming around but not in a way that helps us. Also, he is careless with the ball and not doing enough in games to impose his quality. If he leaves unless another Champ club signs him (maybe Brum or Ipswich might take him?) then not sure where he goes without going abroad. He is miles off Premier League standard as simply does not show the discipline (on the ball and with his conditioning)



O’Hare 5/10 – Started well and got on the ball and tried to find moments. He worked hard and always tried to get his foot in and try and make it hard for Millwall but as the game went on, he became decreasingly effective and not sure we saw much of him. I thought he would be ideal for the so-called press but we are not playing this way and teams have the ball without any pressure. He does try but when they go past him, no one else bothers a Hamer waddles into the play or Peck saunters around. Feel sorry for him at the moment but a system with him and O’Hare as free players and no midfield – poor wing options and a weak defence – means his energy is wasted.



Cannon 1/10 – Absolutely dreadful. Yes, he may not be a right winger and might have been put in a position that is not his but he is a professional footballer who should be able to do the basics of control, passing, running around, pressing when not on the ball. He has no idea where to run, has no football brain and when he has it, he just loses it as his touch is terrible or he gets outmuscled. I am amazed he even scored any goals for Preston or Stoke before or was seen as a prospect at Everton. Looks a dreadful footballer and even makes Brewster look competent. Wilder has to think what a huge mistake (forget all the bollocks about the new owners wanting him – Wilder wanted him last summer too long before they came in) he made and how it probably cost him his job (a competent centre back signed instead that does not back off like Robinson and we probably go up at Wembley). We need to just take him out of the side but with 4 years left of his contract will be stuck with him. I see nothing to suggest this guy will ever make a footballer at any kind of top level. He has no redeeming features whatsoever. The only defence is he is not winger – sadly he has been no better as a forward.



Campbell 2/10 – I have gone in on Cannon but Campbell was not much better and for the most part a total passenger. Had one headed effort but nothing outside of that. He scored opening day but the last two games he has looked lazy, immobile, and not interested. The service has been poor but look the lad Coburn for them – he threw himself around, made himself a nuisance and did not stop. Campbell’s work rate has been pathetic this season. I like the lad and showed last season he could be effective and with so many stand outs not playing well, maybe there is more to it but maybe you can see why for 3 or 4 seasons at Stoke, a number of managers did not pick him. Seems to be barely even getting out of a jog and again as much as the focus has been tactics/formation etc, if your centre forward (we often played one last year too remember) does not break sweat, you are going to struggle. He needs to wake up and fast. I know people will go in on Robinson, Cannon and the usuals but the so called big players have been awful this season. As much as the discussion maybe about how we play, if players do no run around or at least win their battles, then we are going to not win many games.



Barry 4.5/10 – Thought he showed what he has most of the season – decent to start with and got on the ball and tried to run at his men but then faded and was out of the game for long periods. He lacks strength and I feel gets crowded out a fair bit too. He had one shot saved but often I thought they crowded him out. Defensively offers nothing and leaves Burrows badly exposed. I am not sure about him so far even with a few decent runs. Seems another little, weak player who just gets run off it against physical Championship players. Some moments but at the moment for a struggling side we may have to be more pragmatic and sacrifice him and go more bodies in the middle – yes we may not be creating much but if O’Hare and Hamer plays – we cannot play all three – they give us so many issues in terms of winning battles and the midfield. I think he is a significant downgrade on Rak Sakyi who at least had pace and beat his man – Barry lack that acceleration to properly go past men.



Subs -



Brooks 5/10 – Frustrating in that he kept getting it on his left foot and moving inside and so predictable to play against. However, he at least got on it and a few things came from him. However, he takes too long to do things and the lack of a right foot means that defences just force him inside all the time. We did have a few half chances from his runs but not sure he delivered enough but in comparison to others probably did more than most! Cannot be surprised he was dropped as done nowhere near enough with his game time and looked passive. Until he had another tactic will continue to be easy to defend I feel.



One – Barely saw any of the ball really. Another who looks way off the standard we need at this point sadly.



Seriki – Taken out of the side and might be better as an outlet type sub and had a few runs but now you expect him to be in reserve for a while. Would have been better in the wide right role than Cannon who was appalling. Should have been introduced at half time for me. We were better with the back four that finished.





Manager: Selles 1/10 – Cannot give him more than 1 and that is only for the changes which at least gave us some life and we had a few moment/efforts but 0 points from 9 and 4 defeats from 4 (all deserved) means he is already in danger in terms of his position. He seemed quite calm after the game but his lack of emotion worried me as the urgency is now. He made out we played a lot better 2nd half but we did not! We were poor right up to 65-70 minutes and never looked like scoring till then. It was not as if he tore into them and they stepped up. We had a few chances as they sort of sat back but it was more chaos football/get the ball into the box than cohesive/progressive or planned attacks. He seems a bit bewildered by it all. His only other club of this size was Southampton (and that was hard in the top flight but he failed there) and the decent job he did at Reading was followed by an ok job at Hull but he go sacked.



I am not sure what United have seen him other than a few impressive interviews and a lot of talk about his philosophy. So far he has been an absolute disaster and whatever talk there is of getting rid of Wilder, irrespective of this, his appointment alongside the ousting and in isolation, is looking a dreadful decision. If we had been unlucky in games or had a plan but I cannot see anything suggests he has an idea how to get us dominating possession, controlling games, or scoring more than the opponents? This pressing football and vertical play is nowhere to be seen. He played this odd formation v Bristol with essentially Peck and we got outmatched badly in there – so went more solid v Swansea but we did not create so went back to the first home game approach which was a disaster. Once again we had none of the ball with Peck left exposed and Hamer, O’Hare and Barry just sort of floating about aimlessly and Cannon completely out of his depth. Millwall controlled the game and play and got the deserved lead. However, we have no midfield at all and teams just run through us. When we had the ball we had players miles off each other and no one was connected. The confidence of this side is shot but due to us having no athletes of note or pace, when we turn it over, our set of small players amble back but teams just break and put pressure on a defence that lacks the same pace/physicality. We looked a soft touch as we lost all the battles but the manager needs to give us a chance where we see more of the ball. He will be frustrated so called good technical players have been so careless with the ball. As I say, the chances at the end just came through getting it forward and percentage stuff really.



I worry that even this early, he is running out of time. Sacking him now seems as daft as appointing him but then good management realises mistakes and changes it quickly but I wonder where they go next if they do? Going to a Dyche/Wilder type seems to just see us doing the Slav/Hecky thing again. Many may argue it worked but I think we have seen the club want to take a different approach so they have to conviction to change the direction but if the coach/leader is not getting the best out of the players then at some point you have to acknowledge that. I think he will remain but I expect us to lose the next two as negative as that sounds and then feel they will make the change. There is an argument they may as well do it now. I really wanted it to work but seen nothing to suggest this guy has any idea – even with all the recruitment issues and lack of help. Also, giving him money to spend and bring in player a replacement may not want – seems an odd decision. He has had the worst start ever of any new United manager and in the current football climate will know if he does not get a result in the next few games – he will be gone and probably so will his career in English football in the top two divisions. He was very lucky to get the job here with a very decent squad despite the departures but he is making as big a mess of it as he could. I believe a coach that just threw them out and said enjoy it and do whatever you want might be better than this confused approach which seems to have them almost over thinking what to do.



Millwall – As last season, they came here and did what they had to but deservedly won the game. For an hour-65 minutes easily the better chances – had all the play when it mattered, more shots on and off goal and were rarely threatened. Just as easy this season as it was when they beat us under Wilder! Will not have believe how easily it was and the two front lads were a handful but the midfield also picked up all the loose bits and they won the physical stuff. They did miss a few chances that should have put the game away and then sat back a bit and would have been disappointed to concede but needed the keeper and the post to help them out. In the end despite the 3 or 4 chances we had, they will say they were value for the win for the rest of the game. The centre back who is supposedly being linked with us might leave them but surely will do whatever he can to find an alternate option after watching that and hearing the boos at the end!



Opponent Man of the Match – Benda was solid at the end making a couple of big saves. Up to that point not sure he did much. The Barry one was decent and the Hamer one very good. Cundle scored and could have had a few others. I thought Coburn was excellent and won lots of the high balls but never stopped. Showed Campbell up with his efforts in comparison.



Opponent Weak link – Ryan Leonard played right back but we did not exploit this. Barry had him one on one a few times but they did get back to help him. Millwall had a few players missing and still won the game deservedly. Sums up how bad we were.



Referee / Officials – Fine. I would have booked Hamer and Barry for petulance and dissent – maybe the Hamer foul was harsh but he is constantly gobbing off. The rest of the game – like most of ours this season – not sure we put a tackle in to allow us to discuss any controversial decisions. The other bookings were standard – Peck with a cynical pull back and Luongo with a late one from then. The game just sort of drifted to a conclusion but nothing the officials did decided the game. Some around us thought it was offside for the goal but clearly replays showed he timed his run well.



Crowd/Day Out – Atmosphere is getting bad in terms of the unrest. Not in terms of divisions or infighting (I know there is a lot of Wilder chat online etc of course) but just real frustration at the team, players, manager, and board. I felt the crowd tried to get behind the team but the boos were justified at half time and even though they tried to rouse them, the team barely got going even with that late rally. At the end, it was an unpleasant ground in terms of the boos and displeasure showed. I did not hang around to see what the team/manager did but at the end of the game I walked down to the director’s box (that is where I exit the South Stand) and there were some comment shouted towards Bettis and Shieber (finance director) but no sign of any of the owners. The reaction of the two board members was frightening as they seemed shocked at the boos and comments (nothing offensive – just asked what the hell was going on) and were quickly ushered out. The stewards seemed surprised but there were a number who made their feelings clear. It might get worse before it gets better sadly.



At the moment, those things that went against us at the key times at Wembley seems to have changed our future (maybe for a long time) in such a debilitating way that maybe none of us could have imagined. The fact our local rivals are absolutely fighting harder than our players should be damning on them and the club. We are rock bottom and lacking any kind of plan – on and off the pitch- how to turn this around and do not see any leadership from the board, manager or the side which worries me that it is going to get worse before it gets better. I thought we might not be as strong as last year and thought edge of the playoffs might be as good as we hoped but now we are genuinely not even thinking about promotion but just where the next result is coming from. Since Wembley – it is now 5 defeats and our longest losing run for a long time and so many questions but no real clarity on what we do next – even if we sack this manager, then who do we bring in – if it’s an old school type – that goes back to the same approach they seemed to go away from. They appoint another coach type then without the players and no time to implement changes, then would be in the same position. What a mess.
I've posted on the match thread
"
The elephant in the room.
Imbecilic zealots with fixed demented totally insane 'ideas' not genuine football managers
I've given everyone average or above based on their (predominantly TOTALLY MISDIRECTED) efforts.
The imbecile Selles got his deserved 1 again.
"

for example
Cannon and Brooks were stupidly played on the right side, clearly not as wing(ers)
In some sort of order of ability and experience
Hamer, Barry, Ukaki, Seriki, Marsh etc would all have done from top class down to better there, and have more attributes to play in that position
I honestly think Brooks has been instructed NOT to go down the wing, NOT to cross the ball, just pass inside.
The first person to go down the wing and cross the ball I can remember was CF One stuck on the left wing in the ****** 90th minute
(Something that Brooks should have been doing from minute 1)
That is a stat THAT MEANS SOMETHING.
 
Was a bit weird at the end as the squad did their customary lap of appreciation after all the handshakes. Fans were walking out of the ground, a few fans stayed to applaud the players but I kept hearing waves of boos as I was walking out. Not sure if they were booing anyone in particular or if some fans were patiently waiting for the squad to approach them so they could boo.
I was observing and someone was getting serious booing from.the Kop. Not sure who .
 
To get 0 you'd have to score an own goal, or get sent off or miss several open goals or do something that directly led to the defeat on top of being awful.

Cannon did pretty much nothing right but none of above so spared him the big fat duck.

I have never given a 10 or a 0. Here comes the Leon Clarke (Hull) and Jack O' Connell (Brentford) debate again!

The quest goes on for these marks! Maybe one day!
Kieffer was crap on play offs final.day and set up the winning goal. His score again..? 😃
 

Kieffer was crap on play offs final.day and set up the winning goal. His score again..? 😃

Not sure he was crap. He had a decent header just kept out and played OK first half. Second he was not great and made poor choices long before the pass at the end.

Still got more goals than the whole United team this season!
 
Was a bit weird at the end as the squad did their customary lap of appreciation after all the handshakes. Fans were walking out of the ground, a few fans stayed to applaud the players but I kept hearing waves of boos as I was walking out. Not sure if they were booing anyone in particular or if some fans were patiently waiting for the squad to approach them so they could boo.
Possibly Millwall fans booing Tanganga when he came over with their players to applaud their fans. Didn't hear anything from our fans, but only stayed while they were on John Street.
 
Not sure he was crap. He had a decent header just kept out and played OK first half. Second he was not great and made poor choices long before the pass at the end.

Still got more goals than the whole United team this season!
Right enough. At the time I defended him for his near goal that day, very early on. I forgot about it.
 
To play this formation with these players you need to start defending from the front.

The tactics rely on keeping the ball in the opposition half. The pressing should be immediate and done as a team, giving opposing defenders no simple outlet.

The premise of the tactics is that we turn over the ball, or the opposing defenders has to hit long and aimless.

If executed correctly, Peck and two switched on defenders should be able to mop up and recycle aimless punts for the next attack.

The fact that we're not pressing and allowing simple passes through the lines is leaving Peck terribly isolated and for me making him the scapegoat for the rest of the team failing to press. It's leaving him to cover an awful lot of space and track players when a well executed tactic should have him mainly gathering loose balls.

This is a simplistic overview, but if we can't get the press right, whoever takes Peck's position is on a hiding to nothing. We need to execute the tactics as they are intended or switch the formation. Seven attack minded players on the pitch is no good when you can't keep or win the ball in the opposition half.
 
The boos were 100% definitely from United fans.
I know the 'I pay my money, I can do what I want' brigade, but seriously, you hang around after the game to boo the players? I just don't get it. I stayed to applaud. My choice. I have also walked straight out after a game, as imho they didn't deserve applause. But booing? Pathetic.
Also while we're at it. Booing at half time that will really get the players playing well second half, do you think?
 
Was a bit weird at the end as the squad did their customary lap of appreciation after all the handshakes. Fans were walking out of the ground, a few fans stayed to applaud the players but I kept hearing waves of boos as I was walking out. Not sure if they were booing anyone in particular or if some fans were patiently waiting for the squad to approach them so they could boo.

Yeah I'd already left but heard that. What happened. Anyone stay in?

The players led the lap of shame, with Selles bringing up the rear. A proportion of those still in the ground clapped the players, then, when they had passed by, booed Selles.

I stayed until everyone was off the pitch, and that’s how it appeared to me, from near the front behind the home dugout anyway.
 
Apart from Selles' shortcomings, the biggest factor this season IMO is the loss of Souza in midfield. It wouldn't be so bad if Tom Davies and/or Arblaster was available. Peck tries but can't cope on his own and opposing teams will continue to run straight through us until midfield is properly shored up.
What the fcks! up with Tom Davies! Hes been out for ages again?
 
I don't see where we go if we sack Selles. IMO Wilder would probably take the job if he was offered it, but he'd want assurances on transfers etc that I doubt the board would provide. Plus, them re-appointing Wilder would be too much of an admission that they fucked up, so I doubt the board will consider it. So who to bring in? It would be a crucial decision - get it wrong and the Premier League club they thought they were buying will be in the third tier.

I'd personally give Selles time but I understand that today's football doesn't allow managers the luxury of time to get things right. I don't think Dyche or Cooper would want to get involved in a relegation scrap at the foot of the championship, and don't Immediately see any other candidates who are clearly better than Selles on paper. Rohl did get a tune out of a poor pig side, but the fans would turn on him quickly if things didn't go to plan.
I don’t think we would be in a relegation scrap if either of those two took charge especially Dyche. Us numb nuts can see what’s happening in front of us with selection,tactics etc,attitude,belief,shape,style. I hate to say it but this is only going one way,hope I’m proven wrong.
 
I don’t think we would be in a relegation scrap if either of those two took charge especially Dyche. Us numb nuts can see what’s happening in front of us with selection,tactics etc,attitude,belief,shape,style. I hate to say it but this is only going one way,hope I’m proven wrong.
I don't think we would go down with Cooper or Dyche either but they won't come to us and we can't afford them. If we replace Selles it will likely be with someone like Chalinnor at Stockport or Warne at MK Dons.
 
Agree we were dire for 70 minutes, not helped by the manager making only 1 change in this period. Wall could have won by more. You may as well have played the video of last seasons Wall win at the Lane. They did exactly the same. It was so easy. Use Coburn as a battering ram to unsettle the defenders, hit it long towards our weak area on the left. Turn us around at kick off. Kick, niggle keep it up in the air in the middle. We looked as clueless as we did last season. Do we employ any match analysts ffs.

The decision to drop Soumare handed Wall the initiative. His physicality in the middle alone would have made a difference. Selles needs to explain this although I suspect it is his intransigence in refusing to adapt and change formation that was behind his decision. We waited 80 minutes to bring on our second and third subs. No evidence throughout the game we were looking to change shape.

I try to be objective but everything about yesterdays performance tells me hes lost the players already. They're not bought into the system, if there is one. The job is too big for him. Hes not been helped by the owners inability to change the off field structure as we continue to lumber along in recruitment. If ever a manager needed a football man in the role of Sporting Director for some advice it is now.

What is alarming is the lack of desire and motivation shown by the players. Whether we like it or not players get managers the sack and this lot are doing their best to get rid of him in record time.

The fault lies solely with the Board. In taking such a crucial decision to part ways with the popular CW they should have anticipated the new man would need considerable support. That should have included bringing in a DOF to oversee the change and get hold of recruitment and contracts. It just hasnt happened and the sorry mess we are in after only 4 games is 100% down to them. We never see or hear from them as they continue to pursue their ostrich approach to communication. There will have to be a point soon where they will have to come out from behind the settee. The protests towards the Directors box will get more vociferous as will calls for them to go if we continue in this fashion.

Top class organisations make difficult decisions rapidly where reputation and revenue are affected. Ive had jobs with 2 leading companies and we have not hesitated to move on managers and directors within days when they have shown they are out of their depth. I'm afraid this is where we are heading with Rueben Selles. Better to admit the error immediately and get on with finding a suitable replacement. Its an additional cost but the cost of League 1 is far greater. Gary O'Neil come on down(said in jest but it wouldnt surprise me).
 
I know the 'I pay my money, I can do what I want' brigade, but seriously, you hang around after the game to boo the players? I just don't get it. I stayed to applaud. My choice. I have also walked straight out after a game, as imho they didn't deserve applause. But booing? Pathetic.
Also while we're at it. Booing at half time that will really get the players playing well second half, do you think?
Personally I've got no problem with people booing at half-time and full-time. I didn't do it myself, like, firstly because I'm a 55 year old bloke and secondly because I don't think there was a lack of effort from the players, but I've no problem with others doing it. Can't remember who it was, maybe Dave Bassett or Ron Atkinson who once said "We were that bad I was joining in with the boos myself at the end".
 

Ratings:



Cooper 6/10 – Made a few saves and no chance with goal. Badly exposed again and another day they could have scored a few more. His play was ok but not be surprised if a team comes for him looking at our decline – West Ham on reflection might have made a poor choice looking at the lad from Leicester’s form.



Godfrey 6/10 – Did ok. Steady debut and might have been our best outfield player – just by doing his job! Nothing amazing but defensively thought he was competent enough. Offered little going forward though not helped by the stationery Cannon of course. All the excitement of him and the Swedish lad seemed to mask the bigger issues to me. Not sure he moved the needle but today he looked savvier than Seriki. Looked bewildered a the lack of movement in front.



Burrows 4/10 – Continued his poor start to the season. Really good effort that hit the post of course but outside of this, he was sloppy in possession, and got caught out a few times. The goal he fails to react to the danger. They had a number of efforts down his side. Barry never even gets back into his own half sadly so that causes him more issues. His play on the ball has been careless but he looks slow and is getting overpowered in challenges when defending. Showing that as a left back he has real weaknesses that are being further exploited with the shape of the rest of the team,



Robinson 5/10 – He was ok. He had a few moments where he misplaced it and lost headers too much but against two bigger lads but overall thought he at least attacked the ball and won a few challenges. Not sure many others did. He may move on and may be someone we can do better from longer term but there are far bigger issues than him currently.



Bindon 3/10 – Thought he was poor and looks well below the standard required. Saw a lot defending him after the first few games but he does not win header/challenges and is weak physically. He also does not react or read things. The goal was a header he did not win and was slow again. He lost another header that nearly led to a second and ball watching on another when the lad Ivanovic should have scored. On the ball he is not great either and takes too long to do things. Just looks physically not at the level. A centre half without physicality or pace is no good at this level especially when he no anticipation. Sure, some will say others have been poor around him but I think he has been a major disappointment and just symbolises our side – passive and no character – which is harsh but he has to be able to impose himself if he wants to play this level or higher. When he went off and Godfrey came inside, we improved. Unless Tanganga signs, we may have to play Robinson and Godfrey in the middle and Seriki out wide to at least give us some size/pace in the middle that counters sides dominating us physically.



Peck 4.5/10 – Another disappointing performance but this system does not help him at all. Seems we just leave him on an island against 2-3 opponents and ask him to get on with it. He took Soumare out but then we ended up with him in the midfield and O’Hare and Hamer just showing no discipline to come back. The shape is horrible but the number of times he ran into trouble/or played a careless pass meant we never kept the ball either. Seems to have believed his own hype. If he is playing though we need a two in there as he is not good enough or disciplined to play as a lone holding midfielder. The formation is not helping but he still must be better at the work he does.



Hamer 3.5/10 – I think he has been way off it this season. One good shot saved but outside of that? A few passes across the field but he roved around and did not help the defensive side, picked up another stupid booking and sulked when the ball did not get to him. Maybe he wants to leave but his first three league performances have been not good enough. The shape and formation does not help – maybe Wilder was right to hide him on the wing – in this free role he is just roaming around but not in a way that helps us. Also, he is careless with the ball and not doing enough in games to impose his quality. If he leaves unless another Champ club signs him (maybe Brum or Ipswich might take him?) then not sure where he goes without going abroad. He is miles off Premier League standard as simply does not show the discipline (on the ball and with his conditioning)



O’Hare 5/10 – Started well and got on the ball and tried to find moments. He worked hard and always tried to get his foot in and try and make it hard for Millwall but as the game went on, he became decreasingly effective and not sure we saw much of him. I thought he would be ideal for the so-called press but we are not playing this way and teams have the ball without any pressure. He does try but when they go past him, no one else bothers a Hamer waddles into the play or Peck saunters around. Feel sorry for him at the moment but a system with him and O’Hare as free players and no midfield – poor wing options and a weak defence – means his energy is wasted.



Cannon 1/10 – Absolutely dreadful. Yes, he may not be a right winger and might have been put in a position that is not his but he is a professional footballer who should be able to do the basics of control, passing, running around, pressing when not on the ball. He has no idea where to run, has no football brain and when he has it, he just loses it as his touch is terrible or he gets outmuscled. I am amazed he even scored any goals for Preston or Stoke before or was seen as a prospect at Everton. Looks a dreadful footballer and even makes Brewster look competent. Wilder has to think what a huge mistake (forget all the bollocks about the new owners wanting him – Wilder wanted him last summer too long before they came in) he made and how it probably cost him his job (a competent centre back signed instead that does not back off like Robinson and we probably go up at Wembley). We need to just take him out of the side but with 4 years left of his contract will be stuck with him. I see nothing to suggest this guy will ever make a footballer at any kind of top level. He has no redeeming features whatsoever. The only defence is he is not winger – sadly he has been no better as a forward.



Campbell 2/10 – I have gone in on Cannon but Campbell was not much better and for the most part a total passenger. Had one headed effort but nothing outside of that. He scored opening day but the last two games he has looked lazy, immobile, and not interested. The service has been poor but look the lad Coburn for them – he threw himself around, made himself a nuisance and did not stop. Campbell’s work rate has been pathetic this season. I like the lad and showed last season he could be effective and with so many stand outs not playing well, maybe there is more to it but maybe you can see why for 3 or 4 seasons at Stoke, a number of managers did not pick him. Seems to be barely even getting out of a jog and again as much as the focus has been tactics/formation etc, if your centre forward (we often played one last year too remember) does not break sweat, you are going to struggle. He needs to wake up and fast. I know people will go in on Robinson, Cannon and the usuals but the so called big players have been awful this season. As much as the discussion maybe about how we play, if players do no run around or at least win their battles, then we are going to not win many games.



Barry 4.5/10 – Thought he showed what he has most of the season – decent to start with and got on the ball and tried to run at his men but then faded and was out of the game for long periods. He lacks strength and I feel gets crowded out a fair bit too. He had one shot saved but often I thought they crowded him out. Defensively offers nothing and leaves Burrows badly exposed. I am not sure about him so far even with a few decent runs. Seems another little, weak player who just gets run off it against physical Championship players. Some moments but at the moment for a struggling side we may have to be more pragmatic and sacrifice him and go more bodies in the middle – yes we may not be creating much but if O’Hare and Hamer plays – we cannot play all three – they give us so many issues in terms of winning battles and the midfield. I think he is a significant downgrade on Rak Sakyi who at least had pace and beat his man – Barry lack that acceleration to properly go past men.



Subs -



Brooks 5/10 – Frustrating in that he kept getting it on his left foot and moving inside and so predictable to play against. However, he at least got on it and a few things came from him. However, he takes too long to do things and the lack of a right foot means that defences just force him inside all the time. We did have a few half chances from his runs but not sure he delivered enough but in comparison to others probably did more than most! Cannot be surprised he was dropped as done nowhere near enough with his game time and looked passive. Until he had another tactic will continue to be easy to defend I feel.



One – Barely saw any of the ball really. Another who looks way off the standard we need at this point sadly.



Seriki – Taken out of the side and might be better as an outlet type sub and had a few runs but now you expect him to be in reserve for a while. Would have been better in the wide right role than Cannon who was appalling. Should have been introduced at half time for me. We were better with the back four that finished.





Manager: Selles 1/10 – Cannot give him more than 1 and that is only for the changes which at least gave us some life and we had a few moment/efforts but 0 points from 9 and 4 defeats from 4 (all deserved) means he is already in danger in terms of his position. He seemed quite calm after the game but his lack of emotion worried me as the urgency is now. He made out we played a lot better 2nd half but we did not! We were poor right up to 65-70 minutes and never looked like scoring till then. It was not as if he tore into them and they stepped up. We had a few chances as they sort of sat back but it was more chaos football/get the ball into the box than cohesive/progressive or planned attacks. He seems a bit bewildered by it all. His only other club of this size was Southampton (and that was hard in the top flight but he failed there) and the decent job he did at Reading was followed by an ok job at Hull but he go sacked.



I am not sure what United have seen him other than a few impressive interviews and a lot of talk about his philosophy. So far he has been an absolute disaster and whatever talk there is of getting rid of Wilder, irrespective of this, his appointment alongside the ousting and in isolation, is looking a dreadful decision. If we had been unlucky in games or had a plan but I cannot see anything suggests he has an idea how to get us dominating possession, controlling games, or scoring more than the opponents? This pressing football and vertical play is nowhere to be seen. He played this odd formation v Bristol with essentially Peck and we got outmatched badly in there – so went more solid v Swansea but we did not create so went back to the first home game approach which was a disaster. Once again we had none of the ball with Peck left exposed and Hamer, O’Hare and Barry just sort of floating about aimlessly and Cannon completely out of his depth. Millwall controlled the game and play and got the deserved lead. However, we have no midfield at all and teams just run through us. When we had the ball we had players miles off each other and no one was connected. The confidence of this side is shot but due to us having no athletes of note or pace, when we turn it over, our set of small players amble back but teams just break and put pressure on a defence that lacks the same pace/physicality. We looked a soft touch as we lost all the battles but the manager needs to give us a chance where we see more of the ball. He will be frustrated so called good technical players have been so careless with the ball. As I say, the chances at the end just came through getting it forward and percentage stuff really.



I worry that even this early, he is running out of time. Sacking him now seems as daft as appointing him but then good management realises mistakes and changes it quickly but I wonder where they go next if they do? Going to a Dyche/Wilder type seems to just see us doing the Slav/Hecky thing again. Many may argue it worked but I think we have seen the club want to take a different approach so they have to conviction to change the direction but if the coach/leader is not getting the best out of the players then at some point you have to acknowledge that. I think he will remain but I expect us to lose the next two as negative as that sounds and then feel they will make the change. There is an argument they may as well do it now. I really wanted it to work but seen nothing to suggest this guy has any idea – even with all the recruitment issues and lack of help. Also, giving him money to spend and bring in player a replacement may not want – seems an odd decision. He has had the worst start ever of any new United manager and in the current football climate will know if he does not get a result in the next few games – he will be gone and probably so will his career in English football in the top two divisions. He was very lucky to get the job here with a very decent squad despite the departures but he is making as big a mess of it as he could. I believe a coach that just threw them out and said enjoy it and do whatever you want might be better than this confused approach which seems to have them almost over thinking what to do.



Millwall – As last season, they came here and did what they had to but deservedly won the game. For an hour-65 minutes easily the better chances – had all the play when it mattered, more shots on and off goal and were rarely threatened. Just as easy this season as it was when they beat us under Wilder! Will not have believe how easily it was and the two front lads were a handful but the midfield also picked up all the loose bits and they won the physical stuff. They did miss a few chances that should have put the game away and then sat back a bit and would have been disappointed to concede but needed the keeper and the post to help them out. In the end despite the 3 or 4 chances we had, they will say they were value for the win for the rest of the game. The centre back who is supposedly being linked with us might leave them but surely will do whatever he can to find an alternate option after watching that and hearing the boos at the end!



Opponent Man of the Match – Benda was solid at the end making a couple of big saves. Up to that point not sure he did much. The Barry one was decent and the Hamer one very good. Cundle scored and could have had a few others. I thought Coburn was excellent and won lots of the high balls but never stopped. Showed Campbell up with his efforts in comparison.



Opponent Weak link – Ryan Leonard played right back but we did not exploit this. Barry had him one on one a few times but they did get back to help him. Millwall had a few players missing and still won the game deservedly. Sums up how bad we were.



Referee / Officials – Fine. I would have booked Hamer and Barry for petulance and dissent – maybe the Hamer foul was harsh but he is constantly gobbing off. The rest of the game – like most of ours this season – not sure we put a tackle in to allow us to discuss any controversial decisions. The other bookings were standard – Peck with a cynical pull back and Luongo with a late one from then. The game just sort of drifted to a conclusion but nothing the officials did decided the game. Some around us thought it was offside for the goal but clearly replays showed he timed his run well.



Crowd/Day Out – Atmosphere is getting bad in terms of the unrest. Not in terms of divisions or infighting (I know there is a lot of Wilder chat online etc of course) but just real frustration at the team, players, manager, and board. I felt the crowd tried to get behind the team but the boos were justified at half time and even though they tried to rouse them, the team barely got going even with that late rally. At the end, it was an unpleasant ground in terms of the boos and displeasure showed. I did not hang around to see what the team/manager did but at the end of the game I walked down to the director’s box (that is where I exit the South Stand) and there were some comment shouted towards Bettis and Shieber (finance director) but no sign of any of the owners. The reaction of the two board members was frightening as they seemed shocked at the boos and comments (nothing offensive – just asked what the hell was going on) and were quickly ushered out. The stewards seemed surprised but there were a number who made their feelings clear. It might get worse before it gets better sadly.



At the moment, those things that went against us at the key times at Wembley seems to have changed our future (maybe for a long time) in such a debilitating way that maybe none of us could have imagined. The fact our local rivals are absolutely fighting harder than our players should be damning on them and the club. We are rock bottom and lacking any kind of plan – on and off the pitch- how to turn this around and do not see any leadership from the board, manager or the side which worries me that it is going to get worse before it gets better. I thought we might not be as strong as last year and thought edge of the playoffs might be as good as we hoped but now we are genuinely not even thinking about promotion but just where the next result is coming from. Since Wembley – it is now 5 defeats and our longest losing run for a long time and so many questions but no real clarity on what we do next – even if we sack this manager, then who do we bring in – if it’s an old school type – that goes back to the same approach they seemed to go away from. They appoint another coach type then without the players and no time to implement changes, then would be in the same position. What a mess.
Just wanted to add one of your best to date DB. Shame you cant post it on the Club website like you used to. It needs to be read by the owners.
 

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