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It is now four games and four defeats for Ruben Selles whose Sheffield United side remain marooned at the foot of the table of the Championship as they continued their disastrous start to the new season. Luke Cundle’s first half strike saw the Lions deservedly lead and in truth the visitors could have been out of sight, long before a late rally from the home side. Millwall keeper Benda made a save from Hamer, Campbell had an effort cleared off the line and Burrows hit the post but in truth, the away side were good value for the win as they repeated their success and scoreline of last season. They had more efforts (on and off target), a higher XG and more touches inside their opponents’ box, as for long spells they controlled the game. The Blades had a go towards the end but overall the performance was lacking any kind of plan, authority, or domination. Manager Selles is now under huge pressure only three league games in and knows with two tough games at Boro and Ipswich to come; if he does not fashion any kind of performance and result quickly then his tenure at the Lane will be one of the briefest in Sheffield United’s long history.



United brought in new signing Ben Godfrey, who began at right back and also started with Tom Cannon – with the forward starting in an unfamiliar wide position. Soumare and Seriki dropped out. Japhet Tanganha did not feature for Millwall, with speculation over the centre back’s future at the Den- with United being strongly linked with a possible transfer.



The game began with the visitors turning United around and making them kick towards the Kop in the first half. Millwall settled better and were winning many of the loose 50-50 balls before putting United under pressure. Ivanovic was causing problems for Bindon with his physicality and Coburn was winning the aerial balls. United were struggling to find anything of note in an offensive sense and the game was mired in midfield where the Blades were once again getting overrun. Leonard had an effort wide and Neghli then nearly got in as United dithered allowing the Lions to move into the last third. Campbell was seeing little of the ball and whilst there were glimpse for O’Hare and Barry, the home side had created nothing at all from an attacking perspective.



Burrows pulled an effort well off target before Coburn flicked on leading to confusion at the back as Millwall won a few set plays as they continued in the ascendancy. The lack of intensity from the home team saw so many challenges won by the away side and in turn they forced the Blades back. Cundle had an effort parried away from Cooper but the same man was celebrating soon after. The ball was turned forward and Millwall won the header and CUNDLE was not followed by Peck, and beat the offside trap and smartly turned past Cooper into the far corner. It had been a well-deserved lead for the away side who had been the far better side so far.



After this the side started to get frustrated and Coburn’s dipping effort was tipped over before hearty boos came from the Blades fans showing their frustration at another tepid performance with not a single effort registered on goal (indeed anywhere near) the visiting goal.



After the break, United tried to play at a higher intensity in terms of engaging their opposition but Millwall continued to look the more likely of the sides to score again. Cundle had another effort and then Ivanovic should have double the lead but pulled it wide as the boos again rang out around Bramall Lane. Brooks came on for the plan was for the Blades to get back into the game. Barry had an effort saved down low as United finally had an effort on target and then Peck’s header was cleared away inside the box. Neghli and Hamer were both cautioned but the game was drifting away and even though Millwall were sitting back more, there was not really any concerted pressure on their goal. O’Hare’s shot was not too far off target as United at least showed some life in the final 20 minutes.



Hamer came inside and hit a sot that was tipped around the post in United’s best effort before they were unfortunate not to level when Burrows hit a rasping shot that bounced off the post and away. Campbell then a header blocked away near the line. It seemed like it would not be United’s day and as the game ticked into 5 additional minutes, the terraces started to empty. The Blades could not test Benda again and the final whistle came with loud boos from those that remained inside the Lane. I am not sure anyone would have envisaged such a dreadful start despite the managerial change but the Blades look a complete mess at the moment and the fact they have lost to three sides not even tipped to be frontrunners sums up how bad the opening has been.



United – You can watch the highlights and see the chances at the end from Hamer, Peck, Burrows and Campbell and think we may have been unlucky not to get anything and maybe on good chances over the game, this could be an argument you could make? However, for an hour to 70 minutes, the Blades were absolutely dire. We deservedly went behind and could and should have been 2 or 3 behind long before the late efforts. We may have huffed and puffed and the keeper made a save and we hit the post but I am not sure it was really structured play or cohesive football/pressure that led. Millwall just sat back after not putting the game they controlled for most of the contest to bed. Then at 0-1, inevitable pressure may come. It was hardly wave after wave but on another day, we maybe could have nicked a draw but the reality is we did not score and this should not excuse what we saw long before this.



For a long time, we were dreadful with no real plan, shape or idea of how we were playing. The structure of the side is completely unbalanced and we are making some decent players look crap – they aren’t helping themselves mind! There was no pressing, front foot football or this vertical play Selles discussed. We looked weak and timid off the ball and when we had it, completely passive and with no plan how to launch concerted attacks or try and fashion a chance. We seemed to have big gaps all over the side -both without the ball and when we had it. So many of our big players who we counted on last season were appalling at keeping the ball (Hamer, O’Hare, Campbell and Peck) and as a result it kept coming back at us. The defence were not able to impose themselves on two physical forwards. Robinson has got pelters all season and seems to be identified as the main weak link at the back but Bindon and Burrows were worse than him. I thought Peck was left isolated but also was so careless on the ball and we ended up with lots of little weak players (Peck, Barry, Hamer, O’Hare, Barry) that just got shrugged off it so easily. We lost all the 50-50 stuff and as a result never had the ball or could maintain a spell of possession. The few times we did keep it, the play was slow and predictable. Cannon just looked completely out of his depth (people may say it is not his position but has he shown anything at centre forward either?). Campbell barely moved and as much as people will go in on Cannon (and rightly as he has been a dreadful signing and has no positive qualities whatsoever) then Campbell has looked like a totally disinterested player. I get he needs service but look at the two Millwall lads who ran around and won the knocks ons and never stopped. Individually we looked like a side who were all feeling sorry for themselves but collectively there was no cohesion/interplay and lots were just stood. We have wingers who are predictable. A striker isolated and midfielders with no structure. Lots of players miles apart and the defence put under pressure constantly but the team is stagnant with no movement/interplay whatsoever. We had so many set plays where no one moved. We just stood waiting. I thought Barry and O’Hare tried early on to get on it but they faded and quickly got snuffed out. Millwall just swept up the loose stuff and the only side who looked like creating much and they had chances before finally scoring. The goal came as the ball was knocked forward and Burrows and Bindon just waited and then Peck did the same and they won the first and second balls and took the goal well.



They could have had more goals at the end of the first half and to start the second half. There was one moment, where we just stood there and they won three balls from a cross and should have scored. Our players just stood and watched and the body language was really poor. Noone seemed to be getting the team together, moving them up the field or trying to get them motivated. They just seemed to be going through the motions. Brooks at least tried to get on the ball but his one footed tactic made it easy for them to read. We did have chances near the end but most of them were long rangers (Hamer, O’Hare, Burrows) rather than great build up and a draw would have massively flattered us. The side seemed to completely lack belief and in the end the visitors were good value for their win having been much the better side for well over an hour.



The end of the game saw the predictable boos. There will be a lot of focus on Selles and rightly so. He is in charge and for all the recruitment issues, I have no idea of how we are playing, the formation seems to limit us with an without the ball and we look really boring to watch. It is a nothing sort of approach. Passive with and without the ball. Weak, little players and everyone scared to take chances. The side looks a set of cowards at the moment. We have players who should be doing so much better and Hamer, O’Hare, Burrows, Peck, Campbell (to name 5) all have been dreadful to start the season. However, the buck stops with the manager and at the moment the players look totally demotivated, lacking in confidence and no idea what the plan is (they should take more responsibility but the narrative will be many of these were very good last season and now are playing terribly and the only change has been the manager/tactics). We have lost three games and deserved to lose all three. We are bottom and now play some better teams. I cannot see us getting anything from the next two either sadly. We have given him some defenders but Godfrey is a steady eddy type and the Swedish lad won’t be thrown into things surely? We have brought in some youngsters who look a way off top end Championship (Bindon, Barry, Ukaki) but the holdover players are not helping these at all. The board have made a total mess of recruitment but even with defensive changes (which we have started to make and will continue) the forward side and midfield you would not anticipate would or should change from the end of last season. All of these look woeful in this system and the manager is somehow making players who were stand outs look really poor.



Not sure what we do now? I do not think they will sack him after they made the big change – they would look even more stupid than they were in making the change but I cannot see anything but more defeats and then say we lost the next two – then they probably have to make the change. Then what? It won’t be Wilder despite all the talk of a return but say we go to a Dyche or that type -that goes back against the change of philosophy. They would have to go for another Selles type (European young manager – Danny Rohl?). I did not agree with the Wilder change but could see the reasoning long-term moving away from that type of manager but to not overhaul the backroom (bring in a director of football/football board) was bizarre. Maybe they just picked the wrong guy. Selles has achieved little so far as a manager and it was odd they seemed to so convinced he was the man with no interview process at all? I am not sure where we go from here. I think we will lose the next two and then if they keep him for Charlton after the break – the Lane could be even more toxic. Promotion to me is already off the table as obvious as that sounds and now it’s about not being in a relegation battle and just somehow having a season where we can build for next season (Burnley lost 2 all last season – we have already lost 3!) which is crazy after three games but the lack of character in the side is telling and you worry what happened with Luton last year. We might have to see what we can get for Hamer now (not sure anyone will pay big money but 20 million we would have to take it with us in the final year of parachute payments) and even Peck and look to just try and maximise the money we can bring in. We are not going to be close to a promotion contender so may have to see what we can do now to maximise funds – when you look at what is happening across the city. It may seem a negative take but the decision the board has taken and the start today means we are probably going to be a long way from the Premier League for a while now and our trajectory may be more like Norwich/WBA for a period. No issues with that but let us have a plan – get in some football experience on the board and have a strategy with recruitment/coaching that sees if we did go up in the next 4-5 years we can maybe stay there.
 

Ratings:



Cooper 6/10 – Made a few saves and no chance with goal. Badly exposed again and another day they could have scored a few more. His play was ok but not be surprised if a team comes for him looking at our decline – West Ham on reflection might have made a poor choice looking at the lad from Leicester’s form.



Godfrey 6/10 – Did ok. Steady debut and might have been our best outfield player – just by doing his job! Nothing amazing but defensively thought he was competent enough. Offered little going forward though not helped by the stationery Cannon of course. All the excitement of him and the Swedish lad seemed to mask the bigger issues to me. Not sure he moved the needle but today he looked savvier than Seriki. Looked bewildered a the lack of movement in front.



Burrows 4/10 – Continued his poor start to the season. Really good effort that hit the post of course but outside of this, he was sloppy in possession, and got caught out a few times. The goal he fails to react to the danger. They had a number of efforts down his side. Barry never even gets back into his own half sadly so that causes him more issues. His play on the ball has been careless but he looks slow and is getting overpowered in challenges when defending. Showing that as a left back he has real weaknesses that are being further exploited with the shape of the rest of the team,



Robinson 5/10 – He was ok. He had a few moments where he misplaced it and lost headers too much but against two bigger lads but overall thought he at least attacked the ball and won a few challenges. Not sure many others did. He may move on and may be someone we can do better from longer term but there are far bigger issues than him currently.



Bindon 3/10 – Thought he was poor and looks well below the standard required. Saw a lot defending him after the first few games but he does not win header/challenges and is weak physically. He also does not react or read things. The goal was a header he did not win and was slow again. He lost another header that nearly led to a second and ball watching on another when the lad Ivanovic should have scored. On the ball he is not great either and takes too long to do things. Just looks physically not at the level. A centre half without physicality or pace is no good at this level especially when he no anticipation. Sure, some will say others have been poor around him but I think he has been a major disappointment and just symbolises our side – passive and no character – which is harsh but he has to be able to impose himself if he wants to play this level or higher. When he went off and Godfrey came inside, we improved. Unless Tanganga signs, we may have to play Robinson and Godfrey in the middle and Seriki out wide to at least give us some size/pace in the middle that counters sides dominating us physically.



Peck 4.5/10 – Another disappointing performance but this system does not help him at all. Seems we just leave him on an island against 2-3 opponents and ask him to get on with it. He took Soumare out but then we ended up with him in the midfield and O’Hare and Hamer just showing no discipline to come back. The shape is horrible but the number of times he ran into trouble/or played a careless pass meant we never kept the ball either. Seems to have believed his own hype. If he is playing though we need a two in there as he is not good enough or disciplined to play as a lone holding midfielder. The formation is not helping but he still must be better at the work he does.



Hamer 3.5/10 – I think he has been way off it this season. One good shot saved but outside of that? A few passes across the field but he roved around and did not help the defensive side, picked up another stupid booking and sulked when the ball did not get to him. Maybe he wants to leave but his first three league performances have been not good enough. The shape and formation does not help – maybe Wilder was right to hide him on the wing – in this free role he is just roaming around but not in a way that helps us. Also, he is careless with the ball and not doing enough in games to impose his quality. If he leaves unless another Champ club signs him (maybe Brum or Ipswich might take him?) then not sure where he goes without going abroad. He is miles off Premier League standard as simply does not show the discipline (on the ball and with his conditioning)



O’Hare 5/10 – Started well and got on the ball and tried to find moments. He worked hard and always tried to get his foot in and try and make it hard for Millwall but as the game went on, he became decreasingly effective and not sure we saw much of him. I thought he would be ideal for the so-called press but we are not playing this way and teams have the ball without any pressure. He does try but when they go past him, no one else bothers a Hamer waddles into the play or Peck saunters around. Feel sorry for him at the moment but a system with him and O’Hare as free players and no midfield – poor wing options and a weak defence – means his energy is wasted.



Cannon 1/10 – Absolutely dreadful. Yes, he may not be a right winger and might have been put in a position that is not his but he is a professional footballer who should be able to do the basics of control, passing, running around, pressing when not on the ball. He has no idea where to run, has no football brain and when he has it, he just loses it as his touch is terrible or he gets outmuscled. I am amazed he even scored any goals for Preston or Stoke before or was seen as a prospect at Everton. Looks a dreadful footballer and even makes Brewster look competent. Wilder has to think what a huge mistake (forget all the bollocks about the new owners wanting him – Wilder wanted him last summer too long before they came in) he made and how it probably cost him his job (a competent centre back signed instead that does not back off like Robinson and we probably go up at Wembley). We need to just take him out of the side but with 4 years left of his contract will be stuck with him. I see nothing to suggest this guy will ever make a footballer at any kind of top level. He has no redeeming features whatsoever. The only defence is he is not winger – sadly he has been no better as a forward.



Campbell 2/10 – I have gone in on Cannon but Campbell was not much better and for the most part a total passenger. Had one headed effort but nothing outside of that. He scored opening day but the last two games he has looked lazy, immobile, and not interested. The service has been poor but look the lad Coburn for them – he threw himself around, made himself a nuisance and did not stop. Campbell’s work rate has been pathetic this season. I like the lad and showed last season he could be effective and with so many stand outs not playing well, maybe there is more to it but maybe you can see why for 3 or 4 seasons at Stoke, a number of managers did not pick him. Seems to be barely even getting out of a jog and again as much as the focus has been tactics/formation etc, if your centre forward (we often played one last year too remember) does not break sweat, you are going to struggle. He needs to wake up and fast. I know people will go in on Robinson, Cannon and the usuals but the so called big players have been awful this season. As much as the discussion maybe about how we play, if players do no run around or at least win their battles, then we are going to not win many games.



Barry 4.5/10 – Thought he showed what he has most of the season – decent to start with and got on the ball and tried to run at his men but then faded and was out of the game for long periods. He lacks strength and I feel gets crowded out a fair bit too. He had one shot saved but often I thought they crowded him out. Defensively offers nothing and leaves Burrows badly exposed. I am not sure about him so far even with a few decent runs. Seems another little, weak player who just gets run off it against physical Championship players. Some moments but at the moment for a struggling side we may have to be more pragmatic and sacrifice him and go more bodies in the middle – yes we may not be creating much but if O’Hare and Hamer plays – we cannot play all three – they give us so many issues in terms of winning battles and the midfield. I think he is a significant downgrade on Rak Sakyi who at least had pace and beat his man – Barry lack that acceleration to properly go past men.



Subs -



Brooks 5/10 – Frustrating in that he kept getting it on his left foot and moving inside and so predictable to play against. However, he at least got on it and a few things came from him. However, he takes too long to do things and the lack of a right foot means that defences just force him inside all the time. We did have a few half chances from his runs but not sure he delivered enough but in comparison to others probably did more than most! Cannot be surprised he was dropped as done nowhere near enough with his game time and looked passive. Until he had another tactic will continue to be easy to defend I feel.



One – Barely saw any of the ball really. Another who looks way off the standard we need at this point sadly.



Seriki – Taken out of the side and might be better as an outlet type sub and had a few runs but now you expect him to be in reserve for a while. Would have been better in the wide right role than Cannon who was appalling. Should have been introduced at half time for me. We were better with the back four that finished.





Manager: Selles 1/10 – Cannot give him more than 1 and that is only for the changes which at least gave us some life and we had a few moment/efforts but 0 points from 9 and 4 defeats from 4 (all deserved) means he is already in danger in terms of his position. He seemed quite calm after the game but his lack of emotion worried me as the urgency is now. He made out we played a lot better 2nd half but we did not! We were poor right up to 65-70 minutes and never looked like scoring till then. It was not as if he tore into them and they stepped up. We had a few chances as they sort of sat back but it was more chaos football/get the ball into the box than cohesive/progressive or planned attacks. He seems a bit bewildered by it all. His only other club of this size was Southampton (and that was hard in the top flight but he failed there) and the decent job he did at Reading was followed by an ok job at Hull but he go sacked.



I am not sure what United have seen him other than a few impressive interviews and a lot of talk about his philosophy. So far he has been an absolute disaster and whatever talk there is of getting rid of Wilder, irrespective of this, his appointment alongside the ousting and in isolation, is looking a dreadful decision. If we had been unlucky in games or had a plan but I cannot see anything suggests he has an idea how to get us dominating possession, controlling games, or scoring more than the opponents? This pressing football and vertical play is nowhere to be seen. He played this odd formation v Bristol with essentially Peck and we got outmatched badly in there – so went more solid v Swansea but we did not create so went back to the first home game approach which was a disaster. Once again we had none of the ball with Peck left exposed and Hamer, O’Hare and Barry just sort of floating about aimlessly and Cannon completely out of his depth. Millwall controlled the game and play and got the deserved lead. However, we have no midfield at all and teams just run through us. When we had the ball we had players miles off each other and no one was connected. The confidence of this side is shot but due to us having no athletes of note or pace, when we turn it over, our set of small players amble back but teams just break and put pressure on a defence that lacks the same pace/physicality. We looked a soft touch as we lost all the battles but the manager needs to give us a chance where we see more of the ball. He will be frustrated so called good technical players have been so careless with the ball. As I say, the chances at the end just came through getting it forward and percentage stuff really.



I worry that even this early, he is running out of time. Sacking him now seems as daft as appointing him but then good management realises mistakes and changes it quickly but I wonder where they go next if they do? Going to a Dyche/Wilder type seems to just see us doing the Slav/Hecky thing again. Many may argue it worked but I think we have seen the club want to take a different approach so they have to conviction to change the direction but if the coach/leader is not getting the best out of the players then at some point you have to acknowledge that. I think he will remain but I expect us to lose the next two as negative as that sounds and then feel they will make the change. There is an argument they may as well do it now. I really wanted it to work but seen nothing to suggest this guy has any idea – even with all the recruitment issues and lack of help. Also, giving him money to spend and bring in player a replacement may not want – seems an odd decision. He has had the worst start ever of any new United manager and in the current football climate will know if he does not get a result in the next few games – he will be gone and probably so will his career in English football in the top two divisions. He was very lucky to get the job here with a very decent squad despite the departures but he is making as big a mess of it as he could. I believe a coach that just threw them out and said enjoy it and do whatever you want might be better than this confused approach which seems to have them almost over thinking what to do.



Millwall – As last season, they came here and did what they had to but deservedly won the game. For an hour-65 minutes easily the better chances – had all the play when it mattered, more shots on and off goal and were rarely threatened. Just as easy this season as it was when they beat us under Wilder! Will not have believe how easily it was and the two front lads were a handful but the midfield also picked up all the loose bits and they won the physical stuff. They did miss a few chances that should have put the game away and then sat back a bit and would have been disappointed to concede but needed the keeper and the post to help them out. In the end despite the 3 or 4 chances we had, they will say they were value for the win for the rest of the game. The centre back who is supposedly being linked with us might leave them but surely will do whatever he can to find an alternate option after watching that and hearing the boos at the end!



Opponent Man of the Match – Benda was solid at the end making a couple of big saves. Up to that point not sure he did much. The Barry one was decent and the Hamer one very good. Cundle scored and could have had a few others. I thought Coburn was excellent and won lots of the high balls but never stopped. Showed Campbell up with his efforts in comparison.



Opponent Weak link – Ryan Leonard played right back but we did not exploit this. Barry had him one on one a few times but they did get back to help him. Millwall had a few players missing and still won the game deservedly. Sums up how bad we were.



Referee / Officials – Fine. I would have booked Hamer and Barry for petulance and dissent – maybe the Hamer foul was harsh but he is constantly gobbing off. The rest of the game – like most of ours this season – not sure we put a tackle in to allow us to discuss any controversial decisions. The other bookings were standard – Peck with a cynical pull back and Luongo with a late one from then. The game just sort of drifted to a conclusion but nothing the officials did decided the game. Some around us thought it was offside for the goal but clearly replays showed he timed his run well.



Crowd/Day Out – Atmosphere is getting bad in terms of the unrest. Not in terms of divisions or infighting (I know there is a lot of Wilder chat online etc of course) but just real frustration at the team, players, manager, and board. I felt the crowd tried to get behind the team but the boos were justified at half time and even though they tried to rouse them, the team barely got going even with that late rally. At the end, it was an unpleasant ground in terms of the boos and displeasure showed. I did not hang around to see what the team/manager did but at the end of the game I walked down to the director’s box (that is where I exit the South Stand) and there were some comment shouted towards Bettis and Shieber (finance director) but no sign of any of the owners. The reaction of the two board members was frightening as they seemed shocked at the boos and comments (nothing offensive – just asked what the hell was going on) and were quickly ushered out. The stewards seemed surprised but there were a number who made their feelings clear. It might get worse before it gets better sadly.



At the moment, those things that went against us at the key times at Wembley seems to have changed our future (maybe for a long time) in such a debilitating way that maybe none of us could have imagined. The fact our local rivals are absolutely fighting harder than our players should be damning on them and the club. We are rock bottom and lacking any kind of plan – on and off the pitch- how to turn this around and do not see any leadership from the board, manager or the side which worries me that it is going to get worse before it gets better. I thought we might not be as strong as last year and thought edge of the playoffs might be as good as we hoped but now we are genuinely not even thinking about promotion but just where the next result is coming from. Since Wembley – it is now 5 defeats and our longest losing run for a long time and so many questions but no real clarity on what we do next – even if we sack this manager, then who do we bring in – if it’s an old school type – that goes back to the same approach they seemed to go away from. They appoint another coach type then without the players and no time to implement changes, then would be in the same position. What a mess.
 
We had the most perfunctory of goodbyes from Jack Robinson and RND at the end, and I'm genuinely gutted for both that they're looking likely to leave us on that abject note.

I think the rating for Cannon is generous, genuinely one of the worst performances I've watched in a Blades shirt. Think you're very generous to Peck too, that first half was truly awful. The criticisms of him for passing sideways have been done to death, but so many potential first half attacks were snuffed out thanks to his indecision today.

Selles loses that one point for his post match interview too. He watched that first half and didn't tell them to change anything at all? WTA fucking F?
 
Bindon was the pick of the defence. Won a lot of headers.
I thought he was weak and lacking in the big moments. Again. He might have won a few incidental headers but the goal and a few other chances they had - he was second and shrank from commuting himself. A centre back who avoids physical contact is a worry.
 
I rarely give the other team credit as they rarely have to show anything special to beat us. Same today, Millwall are a mid table team with average players but get organised against us and it's pretty easy. I did think Coburn was excellent for them though. He clattered Robinson early in the game and for the rest of the game our defence were shit scared of him. We're weak, we lack character and we lack heart. Basically, we're a bunch of fucking Nancy boys.
 
Ratings:



Cooper 6/10 – Made a few saves and no chance with goal. Badly exposed again and another day they could have scored a few more. His play was ok but not be surprised if a team comes for him looking at our decline – West Ham on reflection might have made a poor choice looking at the lad from Leicester’s form.



Godfrey 6/10 – Did ok. Steady debut and might have been our best outfield player – just by doing his job! Nothing amazing but defensively thought he was competent enough. Offered little going forward though not helped by the stationery Cannon of course. All the excitement of him and the Swedish lad seemed to mask the bigger issues to me. Not sure he moved the needle but today he looked savvier than Seriki. Looked bewildered a the lack of movement in front.



Burrows 4/10 – Continued his poor start to the season. Really good effort that hit the post of course but outside of this, he was sloppy in possession, and got caught out a few times. The goal he fails to react to the danger. They had a number of efforts down his side. Barry never even gets back into his own half sadly so that causes him more issues. His play on the ball has been careless but he looks slow and is getting overpowered in challenges when defending. Showing that as a left back he has real weaknesses that are being further exploited with the shape of the rest of the team,



Robinson 5/10 – He was ok. He had a few moments where he misplaced it and lost headers too much but against two bigger lads but overall thought he at least attacked the ball and won a few challenges. Not sure many others did. He may move on and may be someone we can do better from longer term but there are far bigger issues than him currently.



Bindon 3/10 – Thought he was poor and looks well below the standard required. Saw a lot defending him after the first few games but he does not win header/challenges and is weak physically. He also does not react or read things. The goal was a header he did not win and was slow again. He lost another header that nearly led to a second and ball watching on another when the lad Ivanovic should have scored. On the ball he is not great either and takes too long to do things. Just looks physically not at the level. A centre half without physicality or pace is no good at this level especially when he no anticipation. Sure, some will say others have been poor around him but I think he has been a major disappointment and just symbolises our side – passive and no character – which is harsh but he has to be able to impose himself if he wants to play this level or higher. When he went off and Godfrey came inside, we improved. Unless Tanganga signs, we may have to play Robinson and Godfrey in the middle and Seriki out wide to at least give us some size/pace in the middle that counters sides dominating us physically.



Peck 4.5/10 – Another disappointing performance but this system does not help him at all. Seems we just leave him on an island against 2-3 opponents and ask him to get on with it. He took Soumare out but then we ended up with him in the midfield and O’Hare and Hamer just showing no discipline to come back. The shape is horrible but the number of times he ran into trouble/or played a careless pass meant we never kept the ball either. Seems to have believed his own hype. If he is playing though we need a two in there as he is not good enough or disciplined to play as a lone holding midfielder. The formation is not helping but he still must be better at the work he does.



Hamer 3.5/10 – I think he has been way off it this season. One good shot saved but outside of that? A few passes across the field but he roved around and did not help the defensive side, picked up another stupid booking and sulked when the ball did not get to him. Maybe he wants to leave but his first three league performances have been not good enough. The shape and formation does not help – maybe Wilder was right to hide him on the wing – in this free role he is just roaming around but not in a way that helps us. Also, he is careless with the ball and not doing enough in games to impose his quality. If he leaves unless another Champ club signs him (maybe Brum or Ipswich might take him?) then not sure where he goes without going abroad. He is miles off Premier League standard as simply does not show the discipline (on the ball and with his conditioning)



O’Hare 5/10 – Started well and got on the ball and tried to find moments. He worked hard and always tried to get his foot in and try and make it hard for Millwall but as the game went on, he became decreasingly effective and not sure we saw much of him. I thought he would be ideal for the so-called press but we are not playing this way and teams have the ball without any pressure. He does try but when they go past him, no one else bothers a Hamer waddles into the play or Peck saunters around. Feel sorry for him at the moment but a system with him and O’Hare as free players and no midfield – poor wing options and a weak defence – means his energy is wasted.



Cannon 1/10 – Absolutely dreadful. Yes, he may not be a right winger and might have been put in a position that is not his but he is a professional footballer who should be able to do the basics of control, passing, running around, pressing when not on the ball. He has no idea where to run, has no football brain and when he has it, he just loses it as his touch is terrible or he gets outmuscled. I am amazed he even scored any goals for Preston or Stoke before or was seen as a prospect at Everton. Looks a dreadful footballer and even makes Brewster look competent. Wilder has to think what a huge mistake (forget all the bollocks about the new owners wanting him – Wilder wanted him last summer too long before they came in) he made and how it probably cost him his job (a competent centre back signed instead that does not back off like Robinson and we probably go up at Wembley). We need to just take him out of the side but with 4 years left of his contract will be stuck with him. I see nothing to suggest this guy will ever make a footballer at any kind of top level. He has no redeeming features whatsoever. The only defence is he is not winger – sadly he has been no better as a forward.



Campbell 2/10 – I have gone in on Cannon but Campbell was not much better and for the most part a total passenger. Had one headed effort but nothing outside of that. He scored opening day but the last two games he has looked lazy, immobile, and not interested. The service has been poor but look the lad Coburn for them – he threw himself around, made himself a nuisance and did not stop. Campbell’s work rate has been pathetic this season. I like the lad and showed last season he could be effective and with so many stand outs not playing well, maybe there is more to it but maybe you can see why for 3 or 4 seasons at Stoke, a number of managers did not pick him. Seems to be barely even getting out of a jog and again as much as the focus has been tactics/formation etc, if your centre forward (we often played one last year too remember) does not break sweat, you are going to struggle. He needs to wake up and fast. I know people will go in on Robinson, Cannon and the usuals but the so called big players have been awful this season. As much as the discussion maybe about how we play, if players do no run around or at least win their battles, then we are going to not win many games.



Barry 4.5/10 – Thought he showed what he has most of the season – decent to start with and got on the ball and tried to run at his men but then faded and was out of the game for long periods. He lacks strength and I feel gets crowded out a fair bit too. He had one shot saved but often I thought they crowded him out. Defensively offers nothing and leaves Burrows badly exposed. I am not sure about him so far even with a few decent runs. Seems another little, weak player who just gets run off it against physical Championship players. Some moments but at the moment for a struggling side we may have to be more pragmatic and sacrifice him and go more bodies in the middle – yes we may not be creating much but if O’Hare and Hamer plays – we cannot play all three – they give us so many issues in terms of winning battles and the midfield. I think he is a significant downgrade on Rak Sakyi who at least had pace and beat his man – Barry lack that acceleration to properly go past men.



Subs -



Brooks 5/10 – Frustrating in that he kept getting it on his left foot and moving inside and so predictable to play against. However, he at least got on it and a few things came from him. However, he takes too long to do things and the lack of a right foot means that defences just force him inside all the time. We did have a few half chances from his runs but not sure he delivered enough but in comparison to others probably did more than most! Cannot be surprised he was dropped as done nowhere near enough with his game time and looked passive. Until he had another tactic will continue to be easy to defend I feel.



One – Barely saw any of the ball really. Another who looks way off the standard we need at this point sadly.



Seriki – Taken out of the side and might be better as an outlet type sub and had a few runs but now you expect him to be in reserve for a while. Would have been better in the wide right role than Cannon who was appalling. Should have been introduced at half time for me. We were better with the back four that finished.





Manager: Selles 1/10 – Cannot give him more than 1 and that is only for the changes which at least gave us some life and we had a few moment/efforts but 0 points from 9 and 4 defeats from 4 (all deserved) means he is already in danger in terms of his position. He seemed quite calm after the game but his lack of emotion worried me as the urgency is now. He made out we played a lot better 2nd half but we did not! We were poor right up to 65-70 minutes and never looked like scoring till then. It was not as if he tore into them and they stepped up. We had a few chances as they sort of sat back but it was more chaos football/get the ball into the box than cohesive/progressive or planned attacks. He seems a bit bewildered by it all. His only other club of this size was Southampton (and that was hard in the top flight but he failed there) and the decent job he did at Reading was followed by an ok job at Hull but he go sacked.



I am not sure what United have seen him other than a few impressive interviews and a lot of talk about his philosophy. So far he has been an absolute disaster and whatever talk there is of getting rid of Wilder, irrespective of this, his appointment alongside the ousting and in isolation, is looking a dreadful decision. If we had been unlucky in games or had a plan but I cannot see anything suggests he has an idea how to get us dominating possession, controlling games, or scoring more than the opponents? This pressing football and vertical play is nowhere to be seen. He played this odd formation v Bristol with essentially Peck and we got outmatched badly in there – so went more solid v Swansea but we did not create so went back to the first home game approach which was a disaster. Once again we had none of the ball with Peck left exposed and Hamer, O’Hare and Barry just sort of floating about aimlessly and Cannon completely out of his depth. Millwall controlled the game and play and got the deserved lead. However, we have no midfield at all and teams just run through us. When we had the ball we had players miles off each other and no one was connected. The confidence of this side is shot but due to us having no athletes of note or pace, when we turn it over, our set of small players amble back but teams just break and put pressure on a defence that lacks the same pace/physicality. We looked a soft touch as we lost all the battles but the manager needs to give us a chance where we see more of the ball. He will be frustrated so called good technical players have been so careless with the ball. As I say, the chances at the end just came through getting it forward and percentage stuff really.



I worry that even this early, he is running out of time. Sacking him now seems as daft as appointing him but then good management realises mistakes and changes it quickly but I wonder where they go next if they do? Going to a Dyche/Wilder type seems to just see us doing the Slav/Hecky thing again. Many may argue it worked but I think we have seen the club want to take a different approach so they have to conviction to change the direction but if the coach/leader is not getting the best out of the players then at some point you have to acknowledge that. I think he will remain but I expect us to lose the next two as negative as that sounds and then feel they will make the change. There is an argument they may as well do it now. I really wanted it to work but seen nothing to suggest this guy has any idea – even with all the recruitment issues and lack of help. Also, giving him money to spend and bring in player a replacement may not want – seems an odd decision. He has had the worst start ever of any new United manager and in the current football climate will know if he does not get a result in the next few games – he will be gone and probably so will his career in English football in the top two divisions. He was very lucky to get the job here with a very decent squad despite the departures but he is making as big a mess of it as he could. I believe a coach that just threw them out and said enjoy it and do whatever you want might be better than this confused approach which seems to have them almost over thinking what to do.



Millwall – As last season, they came here and did what they had to but deservedly won the game. For an hour-65 minutes easily the better chances – had all the play when it mattered, more shots on and off goal and were rarely threatened. Just as easy this season as it was when they beat us under Wilder! Will not have believe how easily it was and the two front lads were a handful but the midfield also picked up all the loose bits and they won the physical stuff. They did miss a few chances that should have put the game away and then sat back a bit and would have been disappointed to concede but needed the keeper and the post to help them out. In the end despite the 3 or 4 chances we had, they will say they were value for the win for the rest of the game. The centre back who is supposedly being linked with us might leave them but surely will do whatever he can to find an alternate option after watching that and hearing the boos at the end!



Opponent Man of the Match – Benda was solid at the end making a couple of big saves. Up to that point not sure he did much. The Barry one was decent and the Hamer one very good. Cundle scored and could have had a few others. I thought Coburn was excellent and won lots of the high balls but never stopped. Showed Campbell up with his efforts in comparison.



Opponent Weak link – Ryan Leonard played right back but we did not exploit this. Barry had him one on one a few times but they did get back to help him. Millwall had a few players missing and still won the game deservedly. Sums up how bad we were.



Referee / Officials – Fine. I would have booked Hamer and Barry for petulance and dissent – maybe the Hamer foul was harsh but he is constantly gobbing off. The rest of the game – like most of ours this season – not sure we put a tackle in to allow us to discuss any controversial decisions. The other bookings were standard – Peck with a cynical pull back and Luongo with a late one from then. The game just sort of drifted to a conclusion but nothing the officials did decided the game. Some around us thought it was offside for the goal but clearly replays showed he timed his run well.



Crowd/Day Out – Atmosphere is getting bad in terms of the unrest. Not in terms of divisions or infighting (I know there is a lot of Wilder chat online etc of course) but just real frustration at the team, players, manager, and board. I felt the crowd tried to get behind the team but the boos were justified at half time and even though they tried to rouse them, the team barely got going even with that late rally. At the end, it was an unpleasant ground in terms of the boos and displeasure showed. I did not hang around to see what the team/manager did but at the end of the game I walked down to the director’s box (that is where I exit the South Stand) and there were some comment shouted towards Bettis and Shieber (finance director) but no sign of any of the owners. The reaction of the two board members was frightening as they seemed shocked at the boos and comments (nothing offensive – just asked what the hell was going on) and were quickly ushered out. The stewards seemed surprised but there were a number who made their feelings clear. It might get worse before it gets better sadly.



At the moment, those things that went against us at the key times at Wembley seems to have changed our future (maybe for a long time) in such a debilitating way that maybe none of us could have imagined. The fact our local rivals are absolutely fighting harder than our players should be damning on them and the club. We are rock bottom and lacking any kind of plan – on and off the pitch- how to turn this around and do not see any leadership from the board, manager or the side which worries me that it is going to get worse before it gets better. I thought we might not be as strong as last year and thought edge of the playoffs might be as good as we hoped but now we are genuinely not even thinking about promotion but just where the next result is coming from. Since Wembley – it is now 5 defeats and our longest losing run for a long time and so many questions but no real clarity on what we do next – even if we sack this manager, then who do we bring in – if it’s an old school type – that goes back to the same approach they seemed to go away from. They appoint another coach type then without the players and no time to implement changes, then would be in the same position. What a mess.
I worry that Campbell only played 60 minutes in games because that's all he can do if he has to run around. He hides next to a big defender a lot of the time. We have 3 strikers and not one seems good enough to play 90 minutes most games.
 
Each and every human responsibile for sending this sack of shit out disgusts me.

Backbone man will be on in a bit to snark at our weak fan base, but the real culprits earn tens of thousanda a week and do that.

Wakners.
 
Copper .. 7. Kept the score respectable first half.

Burrows . 3. I said he was Mr. Bang average last season.. would kill to see him being Average at the moment, looks lost in this set up
Robinson. 5. Probably his last game for us, never been a fan but our best CB so far this season.
Bidon. 3. Looks a poor signing, not quite Nosworthy levels more Jay Mceverly .. needs taking out of the side.
Godfrey 6. Our best defender today looked solid.

Peck 2. Totally out of place in this formation.. very poor for 4th time in a row.
Hamer 3. Bar one great effort produced very little, good chance it was his last appearance for us at Home.
O’Hare 5. Tried his best, put the effort in but as per usual nothing came off.

Cannon.. 0. Looks an awful footballer, I know people say he was played out of position today but he’s looked dreadful wherever he’s played for us.
Campbell. 1. Almost as bad as Cannon, looks disinterested and makes me wonder if he’s been tapped up.
Barry. 4. Some promising moments and a great effort on goal 2nd half.. but everyone knows what he’s going to do when on the ball.


Subs

Brooks. 4 looked better than Cannon, Would be hard Not to do so… think he’d be good in League one, not sure he’s Championship level.
One’. 2 never could get involved
Seriki 2 same as One’

Selles. 0. Awful team selection.. Cannon on the right (or on the pitch) Was a boarder line sackable offence. Can’t see him turning it around
 
Each and every human responsibile for sending this sack of shit out disgusts me.

Backbone man will be on in a bit to snark at our weak fan base, but the real culprits earn tens of thousanda a week and do that.

Wakners.

Yeah! Fucking Wakners 😂😂😂. Made me laugh that, and if owt can raise a smile after that fucking debacle I'll take it.
 

In terms of team selection I think Selles hoped a return to the basis of the Bristol City team, helped by added experience at the back, would make us create chances again, while also avoiding leaking goals.

The thinking behind Cannon taking Brooks' position may have been to get another finisher included.

But Godfrey isn't as good going forward as Seriki. And Cannon was poor again. Meaning we had a right hand side which was completely ineffective.

With the rest of the team looking uninspired, it was easy to stop us first half.

I wished we had brought both Brooks and Seriki on at the break, if not sooner. Brooks got more involved, but there are always so small margins with him, even more so if he hasn't got an overlapping full back supporting him.

Defensively the midfield trio of O'Hare, Peck and Hamer is not strong enough. There are potential attacking benefits, but in the Championship you often have to earn the right to play and that midfield isn't ideal for that.

Obviously there may be transfers in and out this week. If there was none before Middlesbrough I would play something like:

Cooper
Seriki Godfrey Robinson Burrows
Brooks Peck Soumare Hamer Barry
Campbell

An attempt to make the midfield tighter, more competitive and stop teams waltzing through us.
 
We can argue on the merits and performances of individuals but collectively we were absolute shite for 70 minutes and little better in the last 20 when we sort of had a go. I was all for giving Séllés a chance but my misgivings on his appointment have been proven to be valid this club is way above his level. On the players brought in most look the same level as the manager mid table league one. We are in a real mess probably due to relying on loan players for the last few years, when they go back there is not a lot left. Relegation beckons.
 
I thought Millwall managed the game well, throughout. They were organised and didnt leave any space for us to exploit although I thought we were poor at trying to create any space.
They also worked well at stopping any momentum growing from us with niggly fouls and some debatable "injuries" to slow the game down.
Other than the last 20 minutes or so, we looked devoid of any attacking threat/ideas. I thought Cannon was more effective that Campbell as, at least he actually showed for the ball. Admittedly, he did nothing with it, but Campbell was static throughout the game, made no attempt to run into space/channels and looked totally disinterested. I'm 45 and at least 10kg overweight but would have been able to mark him out of the game myself.
 
Good report.

I have a bit of sympathy for the team as they were a little unlucky not to score. Benda made good saves from Barry and Hamer and Burrows was unfortunate that his shot did not go in. Campbell was also a tad unlucky though I felt that unlike the others he should have scored anyway (incidentally, kudos to One and Seriki for creating that chance, One putting in the only good cross of the day).

It was perhaps not a coincidence that, with the exception of the Barry shot, all of that happened after the wretched Cannon was substituted. Just when I think he's hit bottom, he turns in a worse performance.

Having said all that, I don't think we deserved anything.

If anyone still had any hope that Selles does in fact know what he is doing and it's all going to come together, I suspect those notions were blown apart by that first half performance. I said to Revo Jr at half time that it was like walking football. Nobody attempted to stretch the play or move with any urgency. There was this ponderous build up from short goal kicks that, if it did not break down in our own half, ended when some pointless little triangle of possession broke down just over the halfway line. We won loads of free kicks but they all went sideways or backwards, and the cycle began again. The only high press I saw was the one they inflicted on us. We were so deep - no one within 20 yards of Campbell, again.

They aren't really hoof merchants and yet they could do in 3 passes what we could not do in 15.

A few comments on the players:

There seems to be a debate about the quality of Peck as a player, and he lost his man for the goal for the second week running, but what I think everyone (bar the manager) can see is that he needs help. he is completely overmatched in the centre of the park. We have to have another player in there. Why our new centre midfielder, the only player we have signed who looks anything like comfortable, was not used yesterday baffles me, but then again a lot of things Selles does baffles me.

When we put another player in the middle (and we will, because if Selles doesn't do it his successor will) someone has to go from up top. I like his industry, but O'Hare for me should be sacrificed at the moment, because we need end product, and he doesn't look like he's going to produce any.

I feel sorry for Campbell because he is on a hiding to nothing, but then I see what their CF did to our defenders, and I wonder whether he might actually put a little more effort in.

Barry is so one footed that he's got to release the ball earlier, or shoot earlier, or do something different, because this running straight into defenders is getting us nowhere. I hate wingers on the wrong side. More modern bollocks, like vertical transition or, as it's also known, hospital balls to Peck with 3 men on him.

At one point Hamer and Selles were screaming at each other and Hamer told Selles to Fuck off. I know how Hamer feels.

Bindon is soft as shite. Selling Robinson before we get a big, strong CB (And that is not Zetterstrom) is insane.

Godfrey looks ok but he's not going to be much better than ok.

Some of the players need to take a long hard look at themselves but all 3 defeats have to a certain extent been caused by tactical nonsense. Selles has given no indication that he can deal with this set of players. this job is far too hard for him. If there is not better recruitment that what we have seen so far, and he stays in the job, we are heading to league one.
 
I didn’t expect anyone above a 5/10 so was pleasantly surprised by some marks.
 
Absolutely spot on report Deadbat

I think everything I've thought about the game has already been said and I particularly echo the comments by Bergen Blade and Revolution . You can't set up with a midfield three with Hamer and O'Hare in it. If we are to play 4-3-3 then we should be playing those two as part of the front three with (presumably) Campbell in the middle so we'd play two out of Barry, Hamer and O'Hare. With our current playing squad, we'd be better playing Brooks in the central three with Peck and Soumare, as Brooks did play more centrally in the Premier League when Wilder first started playing him and he did quite well there. The point being we need more physicality and athleticism in the middle, or at least players who are disciplined and will run around and compete. All our problems, for me, stem from this, as they say, if you lose the midfield then you will lose the game. Because of our weakness in this area, teams are just running through us and running directly at our defence. Maybe Peck has been loose in possession but he's under immediate pressure every time he receives the ball and clearly needs help in there.

Speaking of help, it's noticeable how we are allowing our players to be isolated. Too often the ball gets passed to a player and then he's left to deal with the situation on his own and there's a lack of support from team mates. You could tell Godfrey was exasperated by this in the first half as the only times Cannon actually got the ball, he played the ball back to Godfrey and then just left him to it. It wasn't just Cannon that was guilty of it though.

I think everything that needs to be said about Cannon's 'performance' has been said, but at the moment he shouldn't be anywhere near the team and I blame Selles as much for picking him as much as Wilder for signing him. He couldn't do anything right, his touch is awful, he's weak on the ball, he can't control it and he appears to have no idea where to be or where to go in any situation. It was like playing with 10 men, but actually worse than that because he gave the ball away or lost it so much.
 
Was a bit weird at the end as the squad did their customary lap of appreciation after all the handshakes. Fans were walking out of the ground, a few fans stayed to applaud the players but I kept hearing waves of boos as I was walking out. Not sure if they were booing anyone in particular or if some fans were patiently waiting for the squad to approach them so they could boo.
 
Great report Deadbat, pretty much bang on, though normally I think you can be a tad on the harsh side for marks, I think you've been overly generous with Cannon. I'm struggling to see what he did to earn a mark. Surely our worst ever signing?
To get 0 you'd have to score an own goal, or get sent off or miss several open goals or do something that directly led to the defeat on top of being awful.

Cannon did pretty much nothing right but none of above so spared him the big fat duck.

I have never given a 10 or a 0. Here comes the Leon Clarke (Hull) and Jack O' Connell (Brentford) debate again!

The quest goes on for these marks! Maybe one day!
 
Was a bit weird at the end as the squad did their customary lap of appreciation after all the handshakes. Fans were walking out of the ground, a few fans stayed to applaud the players but I kept hearing waves of boos as I was walking out. Not sure if they were booing anyone in particular or if some fans were patiently waiting for the squad to approach them so they could boo.

Yeah I'd already left but heard that. What happened. Anyone stay in?
 
Great report Deadbat. Why Soumare wasnt playing i dont know and Godfrey should have played CB. We so desperately need a dominating CB and if Godrey isnt it Selles has now brought 3 CBs in none of whom can currently physically compete at this level.

We also need to replace Moore. Campbell is way of it at the minute, One isnt ready to lead the line and the less said about Cannon the better.

I think we need to go 3 st the back and assuming Tanganga is signing and Robbo staying thst wd be Godfrey Tanganga Robinson. We can then play Seriki and Burrows in their more natural wing back positions with Soumare playing the Souza role.
 
Great report Deadbat. As you say, decent players haven't become poor overnight, there's obviously something wrong.

Tactics are clearly poor for all to see, Selles looks well out of his depth. I think possibly a bigger factor though is that they don't look happy. The body language does not look good at all and hasn't all season.

It must have been a shock for them to see Wilder sacked, who by all accounts the players enjoyed working for. That's already knocked their duck off and then things have been compounded by a shocking start, and the very real possibility that some of them don't think Selles is up to it. You can understand why they would be unhappy/annoyed/disillusioned.

When you get a combination of the above with poor performances, tactics and of course results, it usually only ends one of two ways. Sack the manager or get relegated.
 
We had no shape whatsoever looked like 11 strangers out there with no clear pattern of how to build an attack from anywhere , no leaders out & no battle , lost every second ball & looked weak as piss . First half was fkg abysmal without a shot on target & the manager counters this by …. Changing absolutely fuck all & continuing with a small 3 man midfield that is getting overrun game after game .

This short pass goal kick routine is now becoming laughable , usually 15 passes gain ten yards then either lose it within deep in our own half or hoof it aimlessly long up the field to frontline that minus a target man to hold the ball up & that puts us right back under pressure .

The manager looks out of his depth and I think the players know it too . MOTM & was struggling to find one was Robbo for me , the only player that remotely showed some grit yesterday . Cannon & Peck were shocking & for fucks sake will somebody remind the current & previous manager Andre Brooks doesn’t possess a right foot & not to play him on the right , he breaks up more attacks than the opposition full backs do , sideways or backwards when there’s 40 yards of space in front of him.

This week and the remainder of the transfer window could have a massive bearing on the future direction of this club .. get the recruitment wrong & we are gonna be in deep shit , I can’t say even if we get that right in terms of recruitment that we have the right man in place to manage them , he looks completely out his depth at the moment .
 
I don't see where we go if we sack Selles. IMO Wilder would probably take the job if he was offered it, but he'd want assurances on transfers etc that I doubt the board would provide. Plus, them re-appointing Wilder would be too much of an admission that they fucked up, so I doubt the board will consider it. So who to bring in? It would be a crucial decision - get it wrong and the Premier League club they thought they were buying will be in the third tier.

I'd personally give Selles time but I understand that today's football doesn't allow managers the luxury of time to get things right. I don't think Dyche or Cooper would want to get involved in a relegation scrap at the foot of the championship, and don't Immediately see any other candidates who are clearly better than Selles on paper. Rohl did get a tune out of a poor pig side, but the fans would turn on him quickly if things didn't go to plan.
 
Yeah I'd already left but heard that. What happened. Anyone stay in?
I just saw the squad applaud John Street and then walk towards the Kop. Jack Robinson led the squad and walked several yards in front of them. I would say maybe 1 in 10 of the crowd stood and applauded them, presumably "Thanks for having a go" and "Thanks for coming to applaud us. We're all together" type of thing. Others just used the opportunity to boo. I just carried on walking out with the odd look around to see if anything of note happened.
 

Great report as always.
With no coaching or tactics this squad is good enough to win matches. They know what they want to do and seem frustrated that in order to play the managers way they have to hold back. Is there such a thing as a low press? If we don’t get close, tackle and turn the ball over we are sitting ducks.
Why play Cannon and One wide? They are both centre forwards who 1. feed on scraps and stuff thrown to the ducks with short quick movement. 2. Muscle to create bits of space to shoot in.
If passing leads to nothing what is the point? They are not picking other teams apart or creating gaps to pass through.
I have said before, the mood and relationships all seem wrong and players are shutting down. Sporadic effort to show willing isn't the same as 100% commitment.
The sudden effort from nowhere and chances created at the end are something to cling onto.
 

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