Underwhelmed

[zablade]

Well I will be the one to stand in front of the guns and say it, I am not enthused by the appointment of Chris Wilder.

I don't for one second belive he would have been on the radar if he hadn't been a Blade, he has had a couple of good season's at Northampton, but a decade or so at Halifax and Oxford not really doing much.

I would on balance have given Adkins another season beyond any other realistic appointment, (apart from perhaps Warnock) The only way I can see us making a challenge for promotion next season is with a serious investment in six or seven quality signings, but that has been already ruled out and we are looking towards the academy, frees and the current squad.

I want to be wrong and maybe I am in an alcohol fuled maudlin mood, but I don't see us progressing in the near future at all.

 

[sheffielder]

Couldn't you just have zero enthusiasm like robbiez666 ?

 

[Harry's Game]

Well I will be the one to stand in front of the guns and say it, I am not enthused by the appointment of Chris Wilder.

I don't for one second belive he would have been on the radar if he hadn't been a Blade, he has had a couple of good season's at Northampton, but a decade or so at Halifax and Oxford not really doing much.

I would on balance have given Adkins another season beyond any other realistic appointment, (apart from perhaps Warnock) The only way I can see us making a challenge for promotion next season is with a serious investment in six or seven quality signings, but that has been already ruled out and we are looking towards the academy, frees and the current squad.

I want to be wrong and maybe I am in an alcohol fuled maudlin mood, but I don't see us progressing in the near future at all.

Would you have posted this is Wednesday had not won tonight?

It's depressing our current plight and I would also have given Adkins another chance but let's not down the new regime too early.

It might just be the start of a Bassett like revival.

 

[Bladesman]

Would you have posted this is Wednesday had not won tonight?

It's depressing our current plight and I would also have given Adkins another chance but let's not down the new regime too early.

It might just be the start of a Bassett like revival.

That involved a relegation first.

 

[Harry's Game]

That involved a relegation first.

Yeah..
... Thanks for that

 

[zablade]

Would you have posted this is Wednesday had not won tonight?
.

Yes.



....No.




......maybe



Fuck it I'm off to bed.

 

[Higgo's Belly]

I couldn't be happier, as I believe the board have made an inspired appointment. They have appointed a manager on the up, unlike Adkins, a manager who is well past his sell by date. Not only has Wilder just managed a team to win their league as champions, but he is a Sheffiled lad and also a fan and ex-player. He gets what the fans expect, from his previous spells with the club.
At some point a manager is going to be the right one and I'm convinced it will be Wilder. He will have the advantage over anybody else who may have taken over, because as a fan, he will know all about the players. This will be a great advantage when doing the retained list. Adkins was not only useless as a manger, but was arrogant enough to think he could get away with slagging of the fans. Wilder is one of us, not a plastic, waffling excuse of a manger, like Adkins. Could not be happier.

 

[Harry's Game]

Fuck it I'm off to bed.

Sweet dreams

 

[Rodley]

Disappointed you didn't shoehorn in another "this side could easily get relegated next year".

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

I don't for one second believe he would have been on the radar if he hadn't been a Blade, he has had a couple of good season's at Northampton, but a decade or so at Halifax and Oxford not really doing much.

Never sacked and I bet he gets drinks bought at the bar when he goes back to both clubs.

Alfreton Town
Wilder began his career in management at Alfreton Town. He took over at the club in late October 2001 and in the 27 weeks he was in charge won four trophies: the Northern Counties (East) League Premier Division, the League Cup, the President's Cup and the Derbyshire Senior Cup.

Halifax Town
Wilder returned to Halifax Town as manager on 2 July 2002. He replaced caretaker manager Neil Redfearn, who had in turn replaced Alan Little (who left on 8 April after falling ill with appendicitis in March). Halifax had been relegated to the Conference at the end of the season.

Wilder was in charge at Halifax for more than 300 games until the club went into liquidation on 30 June 2008, and he decided to join former Halifax defender Alan Knill, as the assistant manager of Bury.

Oxford United
After less than six months at Gigg Lane, Wilder was appointed as the manager of Conference National club Oxford United on 21 December 2008, where he only just missed out on a play-off place in his first season. Wilder's first full season in charge of Oxford began successfully and by mid-season they were top of the Conference table by five points with a game in hand. However, Oxford were overtaken by Stevenage Borough, who would go on to win the title and take the automatic promotion place, consigning the Us to the playoffs with Luton Town, Rushden & Diamonds and York City. They defeated Rushden & Diamonds to reach the play-off final, and gained promotion to the Football League by beating York City 3–1.

In their first season back in the Football League in four years, Wilder guided Oxford to mid-table safety. The team finished 12th, in the top half of the table, their highest finish in seven years. The next season Oxford finished ninth, after poor form late in the season led to the team dropping out of the play-off position they had occupied for most of the year. Oxford's chairman Kelvin Thomas gave Wilder his backing, meaning he would remain manager for the 2012–13 season. Despite failing to achieve a play-off place again in Oxford's third season back in the League, and intense speculation about his future at the club, Wilder was offered and accepted a further one-year contract for the 2013–14 season.

On 26 January 2014 he resigned as Oxford manager with the intention of joining League Two rivals Northampton Town as their manager.

Northampton Town
On 27 January 2014 Wilder was appointed manager of Northampton Town, signing a three-and-a-half year contract. Wilder successfully battled imminent relegation to the Conference, after taking over the club in the relegation zone in League 2. He led the side to a mid-table finish in 2014–15, and then to the Football League Two title the following season with 99 points.

 

[Barney]

They've done well in sacking Adkins and getting in Wilder so quickly.

But all the early signs are bad ones and worrying ones unfortunately.

 

[Harry's Game]

But all the early signs are bad ones and worrying ones unfortunately.

We won't really know until mid July.

 

[alcoblade]

They've done well in sacking Adkins and getting in Wilder so quickly.

But all the early signs are bad ones and worrying ones unfortunately.

That's how we like it Barney. See if you can beat last season's 4 week grace period.

UTB

 

[Pedro Verde]

But all the early signs are bad ones and worrying ones unfortunately.

Drama Queen / Premature ejaculation alert

 

[Barney]

We won't really know until mid July.

Comments about a reduced budget and the retained list aren't good.

I'd say we won't ultimately see until the start of the season with the former.

Hopefully very soon the latter.

 

[Ricky]

Usually the budget gets smaller even when they say it won't.

Admitting it's going to be smaller straight away makes you think we'll spend nothing at all.

 

[Harry's Game]

Usually the budget gets smaller even when they say it won't.

Admitting it's going to be smaller straight away makes you think we'll spend nothing at all.

If anything is worrying it's the total lack of silence from the HRH camp regarding the appointment. This looks another McCabe directed decision.

He doesn't have a good record previously to say the least.

 

[TJB.]

On paper, it sounds like he needs time to get a squad together and build something to achieve success.

I don't believe he's going to get that here.

Perhaps we see improvement this season in one form or another but fall just short of our goal of promotion. McCabe has already said Wilder will be working with a smaller budget than previous managers, so it's a possibility that he won't be adequately backed.

If that happens and Wilder is sacked, and I'm only thinking this might happen based on prior form, we need to bump heads and figure out a way to get McCabe out. It really is shit or bust now, because I'm sick of this blame-shifting short-termist strategy which is getting us nowhere.

 

[Sheffsteel]

Reduced budget yes but still the biggest budget in the league.
Surely any manger worth his salt would love that.

Also his budget will be the highest he's ever had in his managerial career.
He's never really had a budget but still managed success.

 

[Finn Keane o' Balmaqueen]

This looks another McCabe directed decision.

That's what I thought too.

 

[sheffielder]

If anything is worrying it's the total lack of silence from the HRH camp regarding the appointment. This looks another McCabe directed decision.

He doesn't have a good record previously to say the least.

Didn't the prince have a say in clough or Adkins then? He was even around the scenes for Weir.

 

[Pedro Verde]

Hopefully the reduced budget will mean we will not be signing underferforming players on large wages circa Hammond on allegedly £17k per week and Sammon on £12k a week nearly £30 k there that we didnt get any value from whatsoever
We could sign 7 young hungry players on £3k a week and still reduce the budget

 

[Sheffsteel]

Don't think people understand just how ambitious McCabe is.
He won't accept failure.

He's given each manager a top 2 budget, so he expects a top 2 finish
Or at least an improved playing style etc.

I think he also listens to the fans, watches attendances and season ticket sales.

Feedback after the Scunthorpe game showed that the vast majority of fans had no enthusiasm for next season. The team showed no sign of improvement over a full season and worse still they lacked tactics and effort. At least now we have a chance and have renewed hope.

 

[Revolution]

Don't think people understand just how ambitious McCabe is.
He won't accept failure.

He's given each manager a top 2 budget, so he expects a top 2 finish
Or at least an improved playing style etc.

I think he also listens to the fans, watches attendances and season ticket sales.

Feedback after the Scunthorpe game showed that the vast majority of fans had no enthusiasm for next season. The team showed no sign of improvement over a full season and worse still they lacked tactics and effort. At least now we have a chance and have renewed hope.

An ambitious chairman wouldn't sell his best players every year.

 

[PeteBlade]

Reduced budget yes but still the biggest budget in the league.
Surely any manger worth his salt would love that.

Also his budget will be the highest he's ever had in his managerial career.
He's never really had a budget but still managed success.

I've seen nothing to suggest we'll have the biggest budget in the league.
A bit like the false statement that Adkins had the second biggest.

As for others, they're that delighted at getting rid of Adkins, they think that things like "he's a Blade so he'll understand the retained list better" make the slightest bit of sense.

 

[PeteBlade]

Don't think people understand just how ambitious McCabe is.
He won't accept failure.

He's given each manager a top 2 budget, so he expects a top 2 finish
Or at least an improved playing style etc.

I think he also listens to the fans, watches attendances and season ticket sales.

Feedback after the Scunthorpe game showed that the vast majority of fans had no enthusiasm for next season. The team showed no sign of improvement over a full season and worse still they lacked tactics and effort. At least now we have a chance and have renewed hope.

You're fooling no one, Kevin.

 

[DronnieBlade]

Never sacked and I bet he gets drinks bought at the bar when he goes back to both clubs.

Alfreton Town
Wilder began his career in management at Alfreton Town. He took over at the club in late October 2001 and in the 27 weeks he was in charge won four trophies: the Northern Counties (East) League Premier Division, the League Cup, the President's Cup and the Derbyshire Senior Cup.

Halifax Town
Wilder returned to Halifax Town as manager on 2 July 2002. He replaced caretaker manager Neil Redfearn, who had in turn replaced Alan Little (who left on 8 April after falling ill with appendicitis in March). Halifax had been relegated to the Conference at the end of the season.

Wilder was in charge at Halifax for more than 300 games until the club went into liquidation on 30 June 2008, and he decided to join former Halifax defender Alan Knill, as the assistant manager of Bury.

Oxford United
After less than six months at Gigg Lane, Wilder was appointed as the manager of Conference National club Oxford United on 21 December 2008, where he only just missed out on a play-off place in his first season. Wilder's first full season in charge of Oxford began successfully and by mid-season they were top of the Conference table by five points with a game in hand. However, Oxford were overtaken by Stevenage Borough, who would go on to win the title and take the automatic promotion place, consigning the Us to the playoffs with Luton Town, Rushden & Diamonds and York City. They defeated Rushden & Diamonds to reach the play-off final, and gained promotion to the Football League by beating York City 3–1.

In their first season back in the Football League in four years, Wilder guided Oxford to mid-table safety. The team finished 12th, in the top half of the table, their highest finish in seven years. The next season Oxford finished ninth, after poor form late in the season led to the team dropping out of the play-off position they had occupied for most of the year. Oxford's chairman Kelvin Thomas gave Wilder his backing, meaning he would remain manager for the 2012–13 season. Despite failing to achieve a play-off place again in Oxford's third season back in the League, and intense speculation about his future at the club, Wilder was offered and accepted a further one-year contract for the 2013–14 season.

On 26 January 2014 he resigned as Oxford manager with the intention of joining League Two rivals Northampton Town as their manager.

Northampton Town
On 27 January 2014 Wilder was appointed manager of Northampton Town, signing a three-and-a-half year contract. Wilder successfully battled imminent relegation to the Conference, after taking over the club in the relegation zone in League 2. He led the side to a mid-table finish in 2014–15, and then to the Football League Two title the following season with 99 points.

If folks can't see that this is the CV of a bloke who can genuinely provide positive influence, then I'm a monkey's uncle. That's impressive, albeit at lower levels.

It's hardly surprising Wilder was a wanted man this summer.

The fact that the success has been at the lower levels is much more a positive than a negative, as it suggests working well with severe financial constraints, and that Wilder can mould a team to work as a team, something we have lacked for some time.

Forget the Bladey Blade bollocks that has been bandied around. It's nonsense mostly coming from the multitude of the negative brigade that love the sound of their own voices.

If Wilder fails or succeeds it will have nothing to do with him being a Blade. Just a good (or bad) manager.

Time will tell.

UTB

 

[DaleHillBlade]

Forget the Bladey Blade bollocks that has been bandied around. It's nonsense mostly coming from the multitude of the negative brigade that love the sound of their own voices.

Not entirely, I've read a few times that as a Blade he will have the fans passion, and that's fantastic. (more importantly, his record at non-league and League 2 also suggests this is the right move for him and us).

I think a bit of self-indulgent Bladey McBladey BladeFace wallowing is justified after last season of disappointment, and the mass exodus at full time last Sunday typifies the apathy and persuaded me that there was something rotten in the state of the Boardroom/Managers office.

But it will fade away once the hard work starts in August, with a stark realism of another season in League 1.

 

[Blade56]

Well I will be the one to stand in front of the guns and say it, I am not enthused by the appointment of Chris Wilder.

I don't for one second belive he would have been on the radar if he hadn't been a Blade, he has had a couple of good season's at Northampton, but a decade or so at Halifax and Oxford not really doing much.

I would on balance have given Adkins another season beyond any other realistic appointment, (apart from perhaps Warnock) The only way I can see us making a challenge for promotion next season is with a serious investment in six or seven quality signings, but that has been already ruled out and we are looking towards the academy, frees and the current squad.

I want to be wrong and maybe I am in an alcohol fuled maudlin mood, but I don't see us progressing in the near future at all.

You could stand Jose (the special one not the white liner) in front of me with a £25M war chest and I still wouldn't be confident of promotion from this agricultural league.

However, something had to change after the latest 2 'high prophile' appointments. The Wilder appointment has relive my BladeyBladness fuse when I was dreading a summer of idiotic signings, cliches and a stupid grinning face telling me how Hammond was going to lead us to the promised land.

Whatever your allegiances to #N1/2 it is a fact the club was going backwards when everything says it should have been storming this division and not losing to Bury, port vale, Gillingham et al.

The ownership ain't gonna change when the club is a millstone so we have to find the right leader, and that's what we lacked in #N1/2, a leader like Warnock or Basset.

Not sure if the credentials of being a Blade or a local lad or an ex player is a positive and it does smell of bladeybladness but somehow it seems right this time, not hype, just right. I like the cut of his cloth, he sounds the part, he has a good cv and he comes across as a no nonsense bloke. No famous dad, no Sun Zu handbook just an honest bloke with fire in his belly.

I'm in and hopeful he is our special one if not the one.

COYRAWW. Chris Wilders red and white striped army.

 

[Blade56]

Didn't the prince have a say in clough or Adkins then? He was even around the scenes for Weir.

One things for sure McCabe and HRH must be talking and agreeing things at the top level regardless of reports of a fallout