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1st half was nothing short of a disgrace and it would've been a travesty if we'd got to half time at 0-0.

I'm getting used to us wasting the first half of games through starting a bit slowly but this was on a whole different level.

The formation didn't work whether it was 4-5-1, 4-3-3 or even 4-2-3-1. Forte and Murphy played wide but were isolated and didn't get the ball enough. Robson floated around without really affecting anything. Kitson was totally ineffectual. The back 4 seemed reluctant to tackle and Doyle gave the ball away too easily.

Sometimes you can get through poor halves through workrate and desire but we showed neither of those things. It was just a rank bad half of football from us, a total non-performance and inexcusable from a side in a promotion battle.

Walsall weren't brilliant but they were lively and caused us loads of problems.

Although we improved instantly with Porter's introduction, we were still allowing Walsall loads of chances at the start of the 2nd half and Brandy must be gutted to have not scored today.

The upturn in performance stepped up a level when McFadzean came on for Robson. All of a sudden we no longer looked overrun and the whole dynamic of the game changed as we started to put Walsall on the back foot.

Credit to Porter for the goal even though it was from very close range. He was in the right place, he wanted to get there first and his overall performance deserved a goal.

A shame we couldn't get the second. Forte's turn and shot probably the closest we came, it can't have missed by more than a few inches.

From being in the depths of the despair at half time, I came away from the game with some encouragement. It's time for DW to be brave though - he HAS to leave Robson out on Tuesday and I'd like him to leave Kitson out as well. We're not mobile enough, we're not working hard enough and we haven't been causing defences enough problems. I think Porter and McFadzean can help address these problems.

Hill did OK overall today playing out of position so I'd keep him in the team on Tuesday but move him to left back and leave Higginbotham out for Westlake. We also need to play with a proper front 2, both playing in 'normal' positions - not in a free/deeper role.

Positive performances, other than the 2 subs, came from Long (got a hand on their goal but couldn't quite keep it out but made other crucial saves and stood up well to a bit of physical stuff) and McDonald who is starting to look a bit more like and is showing more desire than most in my opinion. When's the 10 yellow card cut off? I'm not sure we can achieve automatic if he gets his 10th yellow before then (please, please, please don't let it be a needless one if he does get it).

We have to win on Tuesday and I think we can if we pick the right team and, most importantly, the players apply themselves properly.
 



For me the formation is fine away although clearly hasn't worked well of late. We're faltering far too often. I'm not sure it's actually the formation. I think it's certain players in said formation.

Robson and Kitson for example. A bit of pace and youth might ruffle the feathers more in the run in. Give Kitson Tuesday night off and bring him ON against Swindon. Then if he's worth it, back in vs Beentford.

Robson. Give him the month off. Clearly experienced player but not fast enough to play on the flanks. Definately not a supporting striker
 
For me the formation is fine away although clearly hasn't worked well of late. We're faltering far too often. I'm not sure it's actually the formation. I think it's certain players in said formation.

Robson and Kitson for example. A bit of pace and youth might ruffle the feathers more in the run in. Give Kitson Tuesday night off and bring him ON against Swindon. Then if he's worth it, back in vs Beentford.

Robson. Give him the month off. Clearly experienced player but not fast enough to play on the flanks. Definately not a supporting striker

Maybe it was just how bad we were that confused things but it looked slightly different to me today. Murphy, Forte, McDonald and Doyle didn't line up as a straight line of 4 across the middle I didn't think. It was a bit like a triangle in the middle with Forte and Murphy either side but further forward than McDonald and Doyle. Regardless, it was shite.

We're trying to play Robson in the hole but Kitson's stood with him at times and it gets very deep and very congested
 
1st half we didn't have a clue. Robson seemed to be playing as a target man? Kitson was always on the left wing for some reason? No movement up front at all, and with two very defensive full backs we simply had to take people on up top but they all seemed waiting for someone else to do something. Was awful, awful, awful.

Fair play to Porter - he has his limitations but used in the right way is a weapon and he had the heart which others didn't today. Callum simply has to start against Crawley doesn't he? In the relegation season Adams threw the youngsters in when nothing else worked - and with Maguire and Slew we started winning. Wilson should take a similar gamble with Callum at least.
 
Having had a bit of time to digest the performance a little more, I can't really disagree with cooperblade's assessment.

That 1st half was simply horrendous. Pedestrian, devoid of direction - it was worse than at Stevenage when we had the ball. Luckily, defensively we weren't quite as bad - save for the goal.

A few other points...

- I don't want to keep labouring the point about just how much including Barry Robson in the team is one of the central problems for us at the minute. Yesterday I likened the decision on whether to drop him to one NW had to come to accept re: Akinbiyi and how the overall team would improve with HMS back in. It isn't a perfect comparison, because Ade did actually make some notable positive contributions for some of our wins. This should really then be a much easier decision for Danny.

- just how poor was Higginbotham with the ball first half? I'm not sure he hit anything that didn't sail into touch. I was all for including him over Westlake, who seems defensively shaky. Based on yesterday, I'm pretty sure Westlake can offer us more defensively and offensively if Higginbotham puts in many more performances like that.

- in the lead up to the goal, I believe it was Collins at the halfway line that collected the ball following Higginbotham's free-kick into the wall, who swept a lovely right-footed pass over to McDonald. Unexpected, but most welcome.

- I thought Hill and Maguire had particularly good games defensively. Hill was particularly unlucky with a long-range effort that went narrowly wide.

- though perhaps slightly suspect on the goal, Long kept us in it 2nd half. A great save one-on-one couple with a couple of really good diving saves

- Andy Taylor got a bit of a rough reception, which surprised me (I was actually surprised to see him playing, as I'd missed them signing him). Yes, he was fairly average for us, and missed a crucial penalty, but he was always hard-working and didn't leave under a cloud. Cheering his injury and subsequent substitution seemed harsh. Poorer players for us that have left less quietly have had better receptions.

- the shape of the 4 in midfield and 2 up front that ended the game seemed far more comfortable. Going forward we played better with them than we have done with any other combination for weeks. Murphy looked happier, K-Mac & Doyle started to click, McFadzean offered genuine width, Forte seemed to be involved more. DW was rightly very angry with the first half - I think we'll all be justifiably angry if those 6 don't line-up Tuesday night from the start in a 4-4-2
 
Robson out, Robson out. Are you listening Danny?
Its not that he is a bad player - put him on the bench if you want but there is no fluidity in the team when he is playing. I don't like his attitude either. I think he seriously overrates himself, he's brussen.
 
Completely agree with assessment of Robson, thinks he is some sort of superstar as he has played for the green and white. I understand why Wilson brought him in, i understand why he feels experience is vital. But cant help but think he has unsettled the side with how he always seems to be in the way of any meaningful attacking move.

Any news on when Flynn might be back fit?
 
I don't like his attitude either. I think he seriously overrates himself, he's brussen.

I've deliberately not commented on this as I don't think whether we 'like' someone or not is particularly relevant to what they bring to the team. It can also cloud the way we judge their ability.

However, Robson does appear to be a bit of a dick.

Evidence for the prosecution 1 - stupidly kicks the ball over the hoardings when we should be busting a gut to take a corner. Then proceeds to blame the steward for not fetching him the ball back quickly enough and have a pop back at the United fans who are questioning what the fuck he was playing at.

Evidence for the prosecution 2 - as the team goes off after warming up on Saturday, he demands a ball from the lad collecting them all up who is just finishing. Whacks said ball over the bar and into the stand and jogs off.

Hopefully he gets on with the other players and isn't like he comes across. I think our team spirit has looked, from the outside, to be pretty good over the last couple of seasons and it would be a shame if he upset that as well as the team shape.

Maybe I just don't like B Robsons?

(PS - struggling to warm to McMahon either)
 
I've deliberately not commented on this as I don't think whether we 'like' someone or not is particularly relevant to what they bring to the team. It can also cloud the way we judge their ability.

However, Robson does appear to be a bit of a dick.

Evidence for the prosecution 1 - stupidly kicks the ball over the hoardings when we should be busting a gut to take a corner. Then proceeds to blame the steward for not fetching him the ball back quickly enough and have a pop back at the United fans who are questioning what the fuck he was playing at.

Evidence for the prosecution 2 - as the team goes off after warming up on Saturday, he demands a ball from the lad collecting them all up who is just finishing. Whacks said ball over the bar and into the stand and jogs off.

When I saw him at Stevenage, the came across as someone that thought he should be captaining the team - one moment in particular where he seemed to berate Doyle for something that seemed to be Robson's fault. On Saturday he raised an apologetic hand to Forte as he just stopped tracking back his man, and then as soon as said player made his assist with ease, immediately started half-heartedly having a go at the linesman, for some reason.

Perhaps he's frustrated by Doyle's lack of leadership - who isn't? But he seems to be a moaner rather than a motivator. A give-it-to-me type that can't be arsed (or isn't physically able) to compensate for his own errors when he makes them. On a frequent basis. Which in his mind, probably aren't his errors.

Remember when Danny Cullip came in and there was a bit of a power battle from the outset with Morgs? He struck me as a bit of a dick too.
 
We cant lose our shape as we dont have one, unless its a christmas tree formation , where the needles have all fallen and the fairy has fell off the top, the midfields needed a kick up the harris as its meandered through the motions , up to the second half at walsall , where a much needed game of catch the tea cups ensued in the away dressing room at half time .
Danny needs to forcefully engage in dialogue of a similar nature preCrawley
 
He shouldn't have to - Any player wearing red and white stripes tonight should be wanting to go out there and demolish the opposition
Tonight will be a defining night for the team and Mr Wilson - if we are relying on Mr Wilson to be forceful then I do worry!
 
Only one exclaimation mark, I worry too.....
 

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