The Stats Quiz with Sander Berge

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"Expected assists"

Ah, the rich lexicon of analytics tosspottery.

Tosspottery to one side I don't think they are stats to be proud of as it starts to highlight assists and goals you should be getting and you are not.

It's like a club being relegated and saying well we had a good XG. Doesn't change the fact they didn't score enough goals and highlights their strikers were a bag of shit.
 
Tosspottery to one side I don't think they are stats to be proud of as it starts to highlight assists and goals you should be getting and you are not.
You can’t be blamed for not getting an assist if you put it on a plate for a striker and they launch it over the bar. The point of “expected assists” is to take into account you may be playing with Billy Sharp or you may be playing with Darius Henderson; you’ve put a quality ball in the box and it should’ve been a goal, it’s not your fault that Henderson was on the end of it and not Sharp.
 
You can’t be blamed for not getting an assist if you put it on a plate for a striker and they launch it over the bar. The point of “expected assists” is to take into account you may be playing with Billy Sharp or you may be playing with Darius Henderson; you’ve put a quality ball in the box and it should’ve been a goal, it’s not your fault that Henderson was on the end of it and not Sharp.

That's my point it highlights that your strikers might be shit.
 
Makes sense to me. If there's an obvious pass that's likely to lead to a goal then the player should be making it.

But the problem is that it's unfalsifiable because it can't account for external factors such as the tempo of the game or how individual players link up together.
 



That's my point it highlights that your strikers might be shit.

No - expected assists just says what the chances were worth (irrespective of who they fall to).

The difference between expected assists and actual assists tells you whether or not your strikers are shit.
 
You can’t be blamed for not getting an assist if you put it on a plate for a striker and they launch it over the bar. The point of “expected assists” is to take into account you may be playing with Billy Sharp or you may be playing with Darius Henderson; you’ve put a quality ball in the box and it should’ve been a goal, it’s not your fault that Henderson was on the end of it and not Sharp.
Yes but I don't get it so it's fancy bollocks.
 
Yes but I don't get it so it's fancy bollocks.
If you don’t like something, just go full Luddite. If players get injured or muscle fatigue, ignore sports scientists and just say “they used to play twice a week on muddy pitches…, when I were a lad we played every day until us mums called us for tea…” blah fucking blah and clog up decent threads with old man drivel. I look at it like this, if stats don’t work, Brentford wouldn’t be in the top flight and top managers wouldn’t bother spending money on video analysts.
 
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If you don’t like something, just go full Luddite. If players get injured or muscle fatigue, ignore sports scientists and just say “they used to play twice a week on muddy pitches…, when I were a lad we played every day until us mums called us for tea…” blah fucking blah and clog up decent threads with old man drivel. I look at it like this, if stats don’t work, Brentford wouldn’t be in the top flight and top managers wouldn’t bother spending money on video analysts.
I didn't know the owners of Brighton and Brentford had worked together prior to them both buying their subsequent clubs.
This is a decent watch how both owners have a secretive stats business leading their clubs success.
 
I didn't know the owners of Brighton and Brentford had worked together prior to them both buying their subsequent clubs.
This is a decent watch how both owners have a secretive stats business leading their clubs success.

I didn’t know that either but it makes perfect sense. I know they’ve both called themselves “professional gamblers” in the past, which is a little self-demeaning, but I never made the connection.
 
If you don’t like something, just go full Luddite. If players get injured or muscle fatigue, ignore sports scientists and just say “they used to play twice a week on muddy pitches…, when I were a lad we played every day until us mums called us for tea…” blah fucking blah and clog up decent threads with old man drivel. I look at it like this, if stats don’t work, Brentford wouldn’t be in the top flight and top managers wouldn’t bother spending money on video analysts.
The All or Nothing Amazon series on Spurs and Man City really highlighted the extent of modern analytics that go into elite clubs.
 



He's Norwegian
He's our sander Berger
and along with iliman
they don't throw a transfer wobbler
out of the pram
hopefully taking us to promotion
because they're blades at heart

To the tune of "she's electric".

Time to get back in mi box.
 

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