Incoming? The return of Ebanks-Landell

[Treeton Blade]

I think it all depends on their signings. If they sign 2 big names for their back four I can see them giving him the option to cancel if he wants first team football. They owe him at least the option after his service and attitude. I also think jags would want the first team football, he strikes me as a decent honest sort of player that just wants to play. He didn't have his head turned with the Arsenal and Man Utd links a few years ago, and just stuck to his job.

As far as signing for us.... I think it's unlikely, but I also wouldn't rule it out completely. He has nothing left to prove, and might just be the last of the sentimental footballers!
(On that note; interesting his odds to Cardiff have shortened significantly since him being linked with us! Back off Warnock!)

We are not the only club in for him.

Maybe Cardiff will beat us to his signature.

 

[seanbeenstattoo]

EEL,Carey , Bruce,"Chill out he's just for back up".
Think we need a couple to go straight in myself.

 

[Chali 2na]

Don't want him. Not good enough for championship. Steady league 1 player who is error prone. If Wilder signs him say goodbye to survival

It doesn't cost a fortune to add two or three players of real quality to the first team

We are not challenging for a Champions League place

Quality is ultimately paid for by maintaining your place in the division or indeed challenging to go up to a higher division
A couple of thousand extra season tickets would help as well if exciting players were purchased

Every player purchased should be potentially better than what we have so that the overall squad improves

It needn't cost millions but arguing the toss over a few quid with two teams in a lower division than us about Leonard and Holmes is pathetic

Can you think of any examples of these "players of real quality" that don't cost a fortune?

And obviously, like you said, they should be potentially better than what we have and hopefully exciting.

 

[JJBlade]

Can you think of any examples of these "players of real quality" that don't cost a fortune?

And obviously, like you said, they should be potentially better than what we have and hopefully exciting.

Holmes and Leonard
Maybe Carey

 

[Blade58]

Some pig on porktalk reckons we "ran a mile from Wolves £2.5m asking price for Ethan Ebanks-Landell."

If there's a possibility that this is remotely true, could explain the reason we are looking at Bruce

 

[Tunstall Fred]

Some pig on porktalk reckons we "ran a mile from Wolves £2.5m asking price for Ethan Ebanks-Landell."

If there's a possibility that this is remotely true, could explain the reason we are looking at Bruce

We do right to run a mile if that is the actual price quoted,however seeing as the source is a Wednesdayite,take with very large pinch of salt,and i am speaking as someone who would welcome EEL back with open arms

 

[Chali 2na]

Holmes and Leonard
Maybe Carey

So the current stock rumours then?

If they are you're preferred choices, and you don't want them to cost a fortune, don't you think it would be wise to negotiate? (Or as you eloquently put it: "arguing the toss over a few quid")

 

[Mouth of the South]

We are not the only club in for him.

Maybe Cardiff will beat us to his signature.

Cardiff are recruiting well this summer.

 

[Ricky]

Cardiff are contenders IMO. Top 8 for them at least.

They're not only recruiting well but they're keeping their best players. The CB and possibly their best player Ecuele Manga has just signed a new deal so they'll still have him and Sean Morrison at CB, which is a very solid pairing.

Warnock's recruitment seems to have got better the older he's got.

He's the main reason they're likely to do well. He's already improved their fortunes significantly and no doubt they'll kick on further this season.

I expect a similarly good season from Preston. They've got stability, solidarity and are recruiting sensibly. Possible surprise package.

 

[JJBlade]

So the current stock rumours then?

If they are you're preferred choices, and you don't want them to cost a fortune, don't you think it would be wise to negotiate? (Or as you eloquently put it: "arguing the toss over a few quid")

You asked for players that wouldn't cost a fortune
I've just given you a couple of examples

Holmes, Leonard and Carey would cost around £1,5 million for all three of them

Unless of course you think £1,5 million is too much for a Championship club to shell out on three players in which case you'd deserve League One again

 

[LJBlade]

Which IMO was purely to get a better fee for him from someone like us. Odd that they offered him a new contract and then signed 2 CB's and deemed him not good enough for the league we are in .

There's no logic in that. Why pay him more money just so you can recoup a bit more later on the off chance that someone might buy him. If you don't believe he's good enough why would you think another club would come along and pay more for him?

 

[Maidenhead]

Some pig on porktalk reckons we "ran a mile from Wolves £2.5m asking price for Ethan Ebanks-Landell."

If there's a possibility that this is remotely true, could explain the reason we are looking at Bruce

We do right to run a mile if that is the actual price quoted,however seeing as the source is a Wednesdayite,take with very large pinch of salt,and i am speaking as someone who would welcome EEL back with open arms

Hang on a minute chaps.

If he was ours he'd be worth at least £25m or we'd be giving him away.

I mean that Brooks lad that hasn't started first team game is worth a minimum £5m.

Don't you guys read these forums?

 

[seanbeenstattoo]

There's no logic in that. Why pay him more money just so you can recoup a bit more later on the off chance that someone might buy him. If you don't believe he's good enough why would you think another club would come along and pay more for him?

There isn't really another explanation for why Wolves offered him a new contract when it was almost immediately made public he wouldn't be averse to joining us permenantly. The new management haven't even looked at him before signing replacements,they don't even feel he merits squad player status. Don't you find that a bit concerning given we are in the same league?

 

[LJBlade]

There isn't really another explanation for why Wolves offered him a new contract when it was almost immediately made public he wouldn't be averse to joining us permenantly. The new management haven't even looked at him before signing replacements,they don't even feel he merits squad player status. Don't you find that a bit concerning given we are in the same league?

Maybe they think he's got potential but wasn't yet ready for their first team, hence why they loaned him out. Granted at 24 years old he's unlikely to be making major improvements. If they really didn't want him they would've sold him last season, instead of loaning him.

Every club gets it wrong about players so the fact that Wolves don't deem him good enough doesn't concern me greatly, especially if Wilder thinks that he is good enough. We've seen last season that EEL can be a very good player, at certain points he was probably our best defender. If Wilder thinks he can iron out the weak elements of his game then I trust his judgement.

 

[Boxer Blade]

I wouldn't be too bothered even if EEL came on a free, some players get the juices flowing and some, well they just don't

 

[seanbeenstattoo]

May well be bollox but theres talk Wolves want £2.5m for him. Quite plausible given the level of transfer fees paid for very average players in the championship.

 

[Chali 2na]

You asked for players that wouldn't cost a fortune
I've just given you a couple of examples

Holmes, Leonard and Carey would cost around £1,5 million for all three of them

Unless of course you think £1,5 million is too much for a Championship club to shell out on three players in which case you'd deserve League One again

You say they won't cost a fortune, and a combined fee of 'around 1.5m' - what are you basing this on? Are you privy to the negotiations?

Ultimately, what I'm trying to say is; you don't know what their asking prices are, you don't know their wages demands, you don't know the amount of our bids. I think you should exercise a little patience and allow Wilder and the club to conduct their business without having a strop.

 

[grafikhaus]

Feel the same ,he was what we needed at the time though.

I think it's what we thought we needed at the time. His first game for us was Sept. 3 away at Gillingham. This was only the sixth game of the season and - at kick-off - we stood 20th in the table. Nobody could have forseen how the season was going to pan out, but we needed somebody, anybody by then as we'd only won one game by then.

He did OK for us, finishing 34 games and chipping in with 5 goals. If we were still in the Third Division, he'd be ideal. But in the Championship, we'll need better.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

If we pay £2.5m for EEL, I will be immediately sending Wilder a commemorative medal for outstanding achievement in the field of Spunkin Moneh.

 

[I should coco]

I mean that Brooks lad that hasn't started first team game is worth a minimum £5m.

He started in the Chuckaturd against Walsall and I think in the FAC against Orient.

I'd agree a lad with only 4 appearances for us wouldn't normally be worth anything like £5m but his POTT for England has changed everything.
Given that, I'd suggest any sale has to be for a minimum of £5m with substantial add ons and there must be a sell on clause.

Ideally I'd prefer he stay for a season but for that to work for both parties, he needs to be playing.

 

[Bladeinleeds]

Well for less than £500k as a solid back up player - yes I can see it.

For £2.5m (5 times as much as we have paid for a player in the last couple of years) - no thanks

We can't be spending all that money on EEL - plenty of other options if we are going to be spending over a few mil. I'd imagine that will be well over 75% of our total budget

Just hope we aren't still desperate for a chance come August!!

 

[LJBlade]

May well be bollox but theres talk Wolves want £2.5m for him. Quite plausible given the level of transfer fees paid for very average players in the championship.

If they want £2.5m I definitely wouldn't want him but that rumour has come from a Wendy on Owlstalk hasn't it?

 

[BigBed]

We do right to run a mile if that is the actual price quoted,however seeing as the source is a Wednesdayite,take with very large pinch of salt,and i am speaking as someone who would welcome EEL back with open arms

Maybe Wendy could buy him, a fraction of the price of their incredible striker, but he can score.

 

[Bladeinleeds]

I doubt we will pay that for him - surely the power is in our hands. He's surplus to requirements at wolves so they pay him to sit around for 3 years and collect say £1.5m or cash in now.

In retrospect EEl would have been better not to sign the contract - take a juicy signing on fee at a club that will pay him.

 

[seanbeenstattoo]

If they want £2.5m I definitely wouldn't want him but that rumour has come from a Wendy on Owlstalk hasn't it?

I believe it has,although that dosen't by itself make it wrong. I did make the point in my post it may be bollox.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

There's no logic in that. Why pay him more money just so you can recoup a bit more later on the off chance that someone might buy him. If you don't believe he's good enough why would you think another club would come along and pay more for him?

I suspect they thought he was OK back up with potential to improve which is what I see him as for us. If they've since signed more CBs though, it could push him further down the pecking order.

 

[Maidenhead]

He started in the Chuckaturd against Walsall and I think in the FAC against Orient.

I'd agree a lad with only 4 appearances for us wouldn't normally be worth anything like £5m but his POTT for England has changed everything.
Given that, I'd suggest any sale has to be for a minimum of £5m with substantial add ons and there must be a sell on clause.

Ideally I'd prefer he stay for a season but for that to work for both parties, he needs to be playing.

Exactly the point I'm making.

Some people need to take off their Blades tinted specs if they think a young prospect with no league starts to his name is worth at least twice as much as an experienced league player, especially when it is the same manager making the judgements.

Wilder will do what he feels is right in both cases

I had no qualms when Adams and DCL went last summer and I will have no qualms whatever Wilder decides re the two above.

A player is worth what a buyer is willing to pay.

It's a buyers market as the players have the power and in the end the sellers have to take the best they can, which is rarely what they want.

 

[Maidenhead]

I doubt we will pay that for him - surely the power is in our hands. He's surplus to requirements at wolves so they pay him to sit around for 3 years and collect say £1.5m or cash in now.

In retrospect EEl would have been better not to sign the contract - take a juicy signing on fee at a club that will pay him.

No he wouldn't.

He undoubtedly got a pay rise and the security of a new contract which puts him in a better negotiating position with ANY potential new employer, plus if he doesn't ask for a transfer he will be due a "loyalty" bonus and a new signing on fees on top of the one he will have received when he signed his new contract.

 

[Bladeinleeds]

No he wouldn't.

He undoubtedly got a pay rise and the security of a new contract which puts him in a better negotiating position with ANY potential new employer, plus if he doesn't ask for a transfer he will be due a "loyalty" bonus and a new signing on fees on top of the one he will have received when he signed his new contract.

Depends if you want to play or not.

Any side after him now would have been able to pick him up for free - he could demand a chunk of that saved fee to sign on with them. He could also show the contract offered by wolves as a bargaining chip as to what his base contract at the new club should be - I.e wolves have offered be £10k a week - we need to be in a similar ball park for me to sign on here.

He's off the back of a promotion season and I'm sure would be picked up by as a minimum a top league 1 side and plenty in the championship if he was free.

As it is he's stuck in the bench for 3 years - at the prime of his career.

 

[Maidenhead]

Depends if you want to play or not.

Any side after him now would have been able to pick him up for free - he could demand a chunk of that saved fee to sign on with them. He could also show the contract offered by wolves as a bargaining chip as to what his base contract at the new club should be - I.e wolves have offered be £10k a week - we need to be in a similar ball park for me to sign on here.

He's off the back of a promotion season and I'm sure would be picked up by as a minimum a top league 1 side and plenty in the championship if he was free.

As it is he's stuck in the bench for 3 years - at the prime of his career.

With a guaranteed pay day for him and his family.

Where would he be had he a suffered a career ending injury in the second half of last season?

A - sat at home with an insurance payment based on his previous lesser contract.

He'd have been crackers to turn down a new contract with no other guaranteed options in the hope of a better deal elsewhere.

If he's not getting games I'm sure he will address that in due course, but in the meantime his immediate future is nicely secured.