The players, management and staff

[Birdwell Blade]

There’s been a lot of understandable negativity towards the management team and players since Friday. It was a poor performance against a local rival and of course we are all disappointed with it.

I think a lot of the squad will have been affected badly by the George Baldock news and we shouldn’t forget that. Remember how we all felt upon hearing the news. Then imagine how the players and staff must have felt having worked with, played with and befriended him for years.

I’m not blaming the tragic loss of George or using it as an excuse for Fridays defeat, I’m just urging anyone who reads this to keep at the forefront of their minds the impact this must have had on everyone at SUFC.

The players are all young lads in their 20s and many of them won’t have ever lost someone they were close to. There will also be a lot going on this Saturday to remember George at Bramall Lane, so again I think it’ll be a tough one and minds are elsewhere. Many of the them will also attend his funeral I would think, which might take some time under the circumstances, so again it will all be on their minds for some time to come.

I urge everyone to keep supporting the players, in the stands and online, on social media and on sites like this one. It will mean a lot to them.

Let’s support them through this tough period. It wasn’t just the Leeds game, it will affect them for some time to come and I think it may unfortunately reflect in some of their performances for more games yet.

Yes they may be paid daft money to do a job most of us dream of, but they are young human beings who feel the same feelings as all of us.

Keep the faith, stay positive, remember what a good start we’ve had to the season and back the staff and players.

UTB

 

[TJ blade]

There’s been a lot of understandable negativity towards the management team and players since Friday. It was a poor performance against a local rival and of course we are all disappointed with it.

I think a lot of the squad will have been affected badly by the George Baldock news and we shouldn’t forget that. Remember how we all felt upon hearing the news. Then imagine how the players and staff must have felt having worked with, played with and befriended him for years.

I’m not blaming the tragic loss of George or using it as an excuse for Fridays defeat, I’m just urging anyone who reads this to keep at the forefront of their minds the impact this must have had on everyone at SUFC.

The players are all young lads in their 20s and many of them won’t have ever lost someone they were close to. There will also be a lot going on this Saturday to remember George at Bramall Lane, so again I think it’ll be a tough one and minds are elsewhere. Many of the them will also attend his funeral I would think, which might take some time under the circumstances, so again it will all be on their minds for some time to come.

I urge everyone to keep supporting the players, in the stands and online, on social media and on sites like this one. It will mean a lot to them.

Let’s support them through this tough period. It wasn’t just the Leeds game, it will affect them for some time to come and I think it may unfortunately reflect in some of their performances for more games yet.

Yes they may be paid daft money to do a job most of us dream of, but they are young human beings who feel the same feelings as all of us.

Keep the faith, stay positive, remember what a good start we’ve had to the season and back the staff and players.

UTB

Sorry, but with due respect I don't buy into this regarding the sad passing of George Baldock, affecting the players, if anything it should have wound them up to put on a display for him, like it did with The Greek national team, who were obviously going for it in there 2 matches, only my opinion but as been said in previous threads, it was the tactics, and team selections what affected the performance. Mr Wilder turned into Warnock! Which is worrying.

 

[Koh Samui Blade]

CW can't win can he?
One minute he is called a "One Trick Poney", then it's"No Plan B".
When he tries something different, re system, according to the recent silent minority,he's shit again.

If he doesn't try these different systems, how's he going to know if they are going to work.
If we meet Leeds in the Play offs, he now has some answers to his questions.

 

[Birdwell Blade]

I didn’t want my post to be taken as me excusing the performance, or to start another debate on the tactics/system/selection.

It was to appeal to the human side of the forum to remember what everyone at the club must be feeling and to support them as best we can.

 

[DronnieBlade]

I didn’t want my post to be taken as me excusing the performance, or to start another debate on the tactics/system/selection.

It was to appeal to the human side of the forum to remember what everyone at the club must be feeling and to support them as best we can.

There isn’t much of one.

Hardly the emotional intelligence hotbed of the internet. Is it ?

Nice try though .

UTB

 

[JayGreen17]

CW can't win can he?
One minute he is called a "One Trick Poney", then it's"No Plan B".
When he tries something different, re system, according to the recent silent minority,he's shit again.

If he doesn't try these different systems, how's he going to know if they are going to work.
If we meet Leeds in the Play offs, he now has some answers to his questions.

But why change a team formation and enough players to disrupt how we have been playing and that got us to the top of the league, it’s actually quite unbelievable. The players have been getting used to and having success with a new system to then change it is so that players are now trying to work with a new system against a good team, mind blowing….

Will Wilder have learnt from this, probably not, he’s too pig headed.

 

[Mendi]

 

[dexter101]

100% with you on the intention.

I think different people respond differently to these circumstances. Thinking about our Billy scoring after his little one passed away. For others, it wouldn't be the same.

We all move on to the next game and hopefully the squad and Wilder will too.

 

[bakeblade]

CW can't win can he?
One minute he is called a "One Trick Poney", then it's"No Plan B".
When he tries something different, re system, according to the recent silent minority,he's shit again.

If he doesn't try these different systems, how's he going to know if they are going to work.
If we meet Leeds in the Play offs, he now has some answers to his questions.

You tend to try a different system if the first one isn't working. The phrase 'if it ain't broke don't fix it' perfectly summed up Fridays debacle

 

[VonBrysonsExpress]

Two things can be true at the same time, wilder got the team & tactics wrong and many at the club are still in a state of shock and/or mourning. We can criticise the first whilst acknowledging the second

 

[shorehamview]

Sorry, but with due respect I don't buy into this regarding the sad passing of George Baldock, affecting the players, if anything it should have wound them up to put on a display for him, like it did with The Greek national team, who were obviously going for it in there 2 matches, only my opinion but as been said in previous threads, it was the tactics, and team selections what affected the performance. Mr Wilder turned into Warnock! Which is worrying.

People react differently when emotions are involved. Some people get fired up, some retreat into themselves. To suggest that everyone should react in the same way is naive at best.

 

[Bell4]

Sorry, but with due respect I don't buy into this regarding the sad passing of George Baldock, affecting the players, if anything it should have wound them up to put on a display for him, like it did with The Greek national team, who were obviously going for it in there 2 matches, only my opinion but as been said in previous threads, it was the tactics, and team selections what affected the performance. Mr Wilder turned into Warnock! Which is worrying.

This - totally agree

 

[ATL Recs]

There’s been a lot of understandable negativity towards the management team and players since Friday. It was a poor performance against a local rival and of course we are all disappointed with it.

I think a lot of the squad will have been affected badly by the George Baldock news and we shouldn’t forget that. Remember how we all felt upon hearing the news. Then imagine how the players and staff must have felt having worked with, played with and befriended him for years.

I’m not blaming the tragic loss of George or using it as an excuse for Fridays defeat, I’m just urging anyone who reads this to keep at the forefront of their minds the impact this must have had on everyone at SUFC.

The players are all young lads in their 20s and many of them won’t have ever lost someone they were close to. There will also be a lot going on this Saturday to remember George at Bramall Lane, so again I think it’ll be a tough one and minds are elsewhere. Many of the them will also attend his funeral I would think, which might take some time under the circumstances, so again it will all be on their minds for some time to come.

I urge everyone to keep supporting the players, in the stands and online, on social media and on sites like this one. It will mean a lot to them.

Let’s support them through this tough period. It wasn’t just the Leeds game, it will affect them for some time to come and I think it may unfortunately reflect in some of their performances for more games yet.

Yes they may be paid daft money to do a job most of us dream of, but they are young human beings who feel the same feelings as all of us.

Keep the faith, stay positive, remember what a good start we’ve had to the season and back the staff and players.

UTB

Yes You are using it as an excuse to gloss over a poor tactical approach and bemused performances but against a much better team player for player

if anything the loss of a professional colleague and close friend should galvanise you to go a bit further

 

[ATL Recs]

People react differently when emotions are involved. Some people get fired up, some retreat into themselves. To suggest that everyone should react in the same way is naive at best.

Professional sports people don’t compete if they are not emotionally right

 

[Stretch]

A very well intentioned OP and it's hard to argue with the sentiment. I just wonder though whether recent events meant that the worst possible approach was to disrupt the team further, when it might have been best just to let them go out and play in a style and formation that they are comfortable in?

Yes there is always a job to do, but how is that best achieved when dealing with something else that is so difficult? Do you mix things up, or keep things as they were?

At the end of the day Chris knows the players and we don't. He thought he could get it to work on Friday and it failed badly which he needs to take responsibility for. Hopefully the lads can quickly put this behind them and do the business tomorrow. You'd hope that game will be a bit easier, both as a competition and emotionally, as things settle down a bit. Admittedly emotion will be running high again at the Stoke game.

 

[billyblademan]

I think Heckingbottom came out a while after the Newcastle game, and said in retrospect the club weren't ready for the match after Maddy's death, and should have asked for a postponement. I wondered at the time of George's passing whether we may have wanted to do the same here. Yes, it was over a week until matchday, but given the players would have had time off/internationals, they wouldn't have come together to grieve until the middle of last week.

Countering that, I'm sure George would be the guy in the squad who'd be geeing people up wanting the match to go ahead, and we may have got some stick from the press, but its maybe its something that should have been considered (or considered harder, given we had a similar situation last year).

 

[s20Blade]

Cooper for me. It'll be very interesting if we go up how we copes with being absolutely peppered and how much that knocks his confidence.