The missing 2/3 thousand.

[snootyfenooty]

Mate...some people dont understand the concept of empathy. So long as they can afford to go its fck other people.

What you're getting at is that you see football as an entitlement and should be provided by "someone else" along with the NHS, armed forces, police, schools and so on at little to no cost to you. What you don't understand is that United's 25k attendees represent 5% of Sheffield's population, that is, the other 95% don't give a shit about them. If you're going on a populism crusade, then at least pick on something that has popular appeal. Your posts smack of selfishness as you're only concerned about something with minority appeal of which you are one of the participants. I don't think you would have the same "empathy" if theatre goers started bleating about admission costs.

 

[essexblade73]

What you're getting at is that you see football as an entitlement and should be provided by "someone else" along with the NHS, armed forces, police, schools and so on at little to no cost to you. What you don't understand is that United's 25k attendees represent 5% of Sheffield's population, that is, the other 95% don't give a shit about them. If you're going on a populism crusade, then at least pick on something that has popular appeal. Your posts smack of selfishness as you're only concerned about something with minority appeal of which you are one of the participants. I don't think you would have the same "empathy" if theatre goers started bleating about admission costs.

What you dont understand is that there are many people priced out of watching a fookin football match. No point continuing this shit..bet you thought Thatcher was a beacon of social equality. Im not talking about giving tickets away...rather keep the price reasonable..20 quid is enough..fckin hell some people really boil my piss

 

[Maidenhead]

Good point. Last season when we played at Barnsley, I got talking to a Barnsley fan in the pub the day after. 'Did you go?' he asked. I told him 'No' and that, back in the day, I'd have rang round a few mates on the morning of the match, a few pints in Sheffield and get the bus or train to Barnsley. A few quid to get in the match and repeat. Now it's just too much bollocks. Loyalty points, herded like animals and £36 to get in. No thanks.

Same reasons I didn't go to Barnsley

 

[Maidenhead]

After 2 games? There will be 28k plus at the Villa game and attendances won't be far off last year's average. You stick to your red button (thousand quid a year?).

I won't be there as I'm away on holiday but I will be counted in the attendance as I have a season ticket

 

[alcoblade]

They made a sketch about you pal

Lovely.

Get beck to your crochet.

 

[alcoblade]

What you're getting at is that you see football as an entitlement and should be provided by "someone else" along with the NHS, armed forces, police, schools and so on at little to no cost to you. What you don't understand is that United's 25k attendees represent 5% of Sheffield's population, that is, the other 95% don't give a shit about them. If you're going on a populism crusade, then at least pick on something that has popular appeal. Your posts smack of selfishness as you're only concerned about something with minority appeal of which you are one of the participants. I don't think you would have the same "empathy" if theatre goers started bleating about admission costs.

Nailed it.

 

[Cappy]

Jesus Christ.......this thread

 

[derfblade.3]

Blame the twat who started the thread Cappy........oh!

 

[Drunk blade]

What you dont understand is that there are many people priced out of watching a fookin football match. No point continuing this shit..bet you thought Thatcher was a beacon of social equality. Im not talking about giving tickets away...rather keep the price reasonable..20 quid is enough..fckin hell some people really boil my piss

A quote from a chairman that knows what he's doing:

"We have to care about a football club's social responsibility," Rummenigge says. "We have expensive tickets, in the lounge and business areas, and thanks to those we can still sell standing tickets at around €7.50 per match, cheaper than it costs to go to the cinema in Munich. A poor guy, maybe without work, we want him to be able to go and watch football. That is our obligation.

"I believe this is part of the Bundesliga's success story; every club is careful not to charge too much; and if you watch the game on television, you see it sold out, a wonderful atmosphere, fans singing and dancing. I think many fans in England are very close to the Bundesliga for that reason because they like this kind of culture still alive in Germany."

McCabes philosophy: we have category a*, a and b. A* is so we can screw as much as possible out of the fans ... but it's all the prince's fault ...

 

[Sean Thornton]

A quote from a chairman that knows what he's doing:

"We have to care about a football club's social responsibility," Rummenigge says. "We have expensive tickets, in the lounge and business areas, and thanks to those we can still sell standing tickets at around €7.50 per match, cheaper than it costs to go to the cinema in Munich. A poor guy, maybe without work, we want him to be able to go and watch football. That is our obligation.

"I believe this is part of the Bundesliga's success story; every club is careful not to charge too much; and if you watch the game on television, you see it sold out, a wonderful atmosphere, fans singing and dancing. I think many fans in England are very close to the Bundesliga for that reason because they like this kind of culture still alive in Germany."

McCabes philosophy: we have category a*, a and b. A* is so we can screw as much as possible out of the fans ... but it's all the prince's fault ...

McCabes charging policy has seen gates increase even in L1. I suspect the Prince has been in on it as well.

 

[snootyfenooty]

A quote from a chairman that knows what he's doing:

"We have to care about a football club's social responsibility," Rummenigge says. "We have expensive tickets, in the lounge and business areas, and thanks to those we can still sell standing tickets at around €7.50 per match, cheaper than it costs to go to the cinema in Munich. A poor guy, maybe without work, we want him to be able to go and watch football. That is our obligation.

"I believe this is part of the Bundesliga's success story; every club is careful not to charge too much; and if you watch the game on television, you see it sold out, a wonderful atmosphere, fans singing and dancing. I think many fans in England are very close to the Bundesliga for that reason because they like this kind of culture still alive in Germany."

McCabes philosophy: we have category a*, a and b. A* is so we can screw as much as possible out of the fans ... but it's all the prince's fault ...

There's so much bollocks talked about Bundesliga ticket prices it's untrue. Bayerm Munich sell tickets at 15 euros but there's not many available and the equivalent of our SS costs 70 euros. That would go down well wouldn't it if we were to copy their model? Take a look for yourself, the average ticket price is about 50 euros, more than most of our premier league clubs.

https://fcbayern.com/binaries/conte...ting/price-list-16_17_englisch-bundesliga.pdf

 

[Nick Jansky]

I have no doubt whatsoever that on the happy day that we finally cease to finance the youngest of my 5 kids she will make whatever sacrifices she can to get to matches, thanks to the absolute obsession with the Blades that her £60 a year season ticket has facilitated. Ticketing policy for kids is something that United have got very right indeed.

 

[super_pig]

on holiday also cats not counted due to new FIFA directive

 

[grafikhaus]

And my point is that football shouldnt be so abhorrently expensive..its become a luxury when it should be part of the simple pleasures of working class lives..going to the pub has gone the same way

And that's the point. The average person has far more disposable income than in the 60s and 70s but their choice of where to spend it has also expanded. Many years ago, going to the pub was an escape from spending time at home - usually in a hovel. That's why there were/are so many pubs on London Road/areas like Attercliffe etc.. A pub had a roaring fire, company and liveliness which simply wasn't there at home - a place to forget the drudgery of a manual job. As people's income increased, so did pub prices - and that's what football is cashing in on. Football - and going to the pub - are no longer 'simple pleasures of working class lives' and haven't been for many years. There are too many obstacles in attending a football match that discourage the 'walk up' attendee.

Society has changed, and not always for the better. Whereas a few years ago a pub would be packed for a live football match, those days have gone. It's surely better to watch it at home on your full-HD telly than being surrounded by a load of half-pissed know-nowts and pay through the nose for a drink? Nowadays, millions of people sit glued to the TV on a Saturday night for their weekly fix of 'bread and circuses' - the lottery and fucking X-Factor. You pays yer money etc. After the Norwich match last Saturday, I joined hundreds of people walking through St. Mary's underpass. Around half of them had glazed expressions and were bumping into people - unable to walk in a straight line. Were they on Spice? Monkey Dust? No, they were glued to their fucking mobiles (an as-yet undiagnosed mental illness). I see plenty of people while the match is going on, gawping at their phones. Why do they bother going? So regardless of entertainment, ticket prices, hanging on to Brooks etc. some people will always find other ways to entertain their goldfish-like minds.

It could be worse. Maybe on porktalk they have a similar thread to this one titled 'The missing 20/30 thousand'?

 

[Camden Blade]

FOOTBALL ,crowds mean less and less with every passing season , a recent report says 50 per cent of the championship clubs can run with games behind closed doors , such does tv revenue count in clubs finances,
Crowds are there for one thing , atmosphere these days
big new grounds are more statements of status than to accomodate fans

Spurs wanted a look at us we can build a 64000 seat stadium to match Arsenal , not to get more fans in
tv revenue is ten tiimes what ticket income is even with 60 k gates

thats why prem clubs can offer 20 quid away fan tickets, its not philanthropic , its another statement that they are getting loads of money in from tv

It's a cliche now but it's still as true as it ever was. Football without supporters is nothing. Crowds maybe less important financially nowadays. But emotionally the crowd is all important. Take the passion out of football and what's left? How many people would continue watching games on TV played in empty stadiums? Football would die without the fans. Some football people know that others are too blinkered to see it.

 

[snootyfenooty]

It's a cliche now but it's still as true as it ever was. Football without supporters is nothing. Crowds maybe less important financially nowadays. But emotionally the crowd is all important. Take the passion out of football and what's left? How many people would continue watching games on TV played in empty stadiums? Football would die without the fans. Some football people know that others are too blinkered to see it.

Not sure what you're getting at there. Apart from a brief period post WW2 when the country was entertainment-starved, football attendances are at an all time high. For example, football league gates have doubled in the last 25 years. The articles you refer to were illustrating a hypothetical situation where gate money is almost an irrelevance compared with the Sky money and so on. There was nothing in them to suggest this was where football was heading, so maybe you should read it again (with your blinkers off).

 

[davidblade]

Maybe because I was happy posting on another board that has died a death recently

Read what was going on here but was happy posting elsewhere

So you’ve always been a sad piggy and have now you’ve decided to post your propaganda on here.
Well don’t bother go back to porktalk

 

[Topplayersleave]

So you’ve always been a sad piggy and have now you’ve decided to post your propaganda on here.
Well don’t bother go back to porktalk

Awww diddums
Does somebody have a different opinion to you

Never mind,
When you reach adulthood you'll find it happening more and more

 

[Camden Blade]

Not sure what you're getting at there. Apart from a brief period post WW2 when the country was entertainment-starved, football attendances are at an all time high. For example, football league gates have doubled in the last 25 years. The articles you refer to were illustrating a hypothetical situation where gate money is almost an irrelevance compared with the Sky money and so on. There was nothing in them to suggest this was where football was heading, so maybe you should read it again (with your blinkers off).

I was responding to a post that seemed to suggest crowds are irrelevant to football now because gate money is insignificant. I agree in part though. The old days were best football is rubbish today line gets a bit tiring. Football's changed and in some ways for the better and money has enabled that progressive change. It's about finding the right balance between football's popular working class roots, keeping faith with the people, the supporters that back the clubs and rewarding loyalty on one hand and the business money side on the other. Blades have done this well I think compared to some clubs.