The fight we showed in the 2nd half

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You were talking about clutching at straws. A tiny minority want Wilder back. That’s the definition of clutching at straws.

Again I am talking about the second half. Nothing to do with Wilder. Unless he was the manager today?

Just second half. It’s in the title of the thread.
 

Deadbat's reports have always had inaccuracies. He thought many times last season that we wouldn't get promotion
Well he seems to look very bleakly at our performances I’ll give you that!

I’m hoping yours is more accurate in that there is a little light at that tunnel exit.
 
West Ham have the money to buy better players. Everyone expected us to get a bigger thrashing
So why do fans bother to go to games?

They have more money so we lose?

So how come Luton are ahead of us in the table by your own admission it’s only about money?

Why didn’t this happen first season in PL?
 
They genuinely took their strikers off, and West Ham who never have the ball just passed it around us. All they needed to do was whack it down channel for Antonio and they were causing us havoc.

West Ham are efficient but If you think West Ham played that second half life there life depended on it they we have different views. It’s not a big deal.

I personally saw a team so comfortable at being 2-0 at home they decided to see it out nice and efficiently instead of going for 5/6 goals.
If you can show me where ive said they played that second half like there lives depended on it then fair fucks

I know what you personally saw
You saw what you wanted to see
Wonder if anyone told their defenders not to try as they threw their bodies in the way of a fair few shots for a team that was so in control
 
If you can show me where ive said they played that second half like there lives depended on it then fair fucks

I know what you personally saw
You saw what you wanted to see
Wonder if anyone told their defenders not to try as they threw their bodies in the way of a fair few shots for a team that was so in control
So you agree they weren’t playing to there maximum.

We are now claiming blocks as a win. We hit the target once.
 
If you can show me where ive said they played that second half like there lives depended on it then fair fucks

I know what you personally saw
You saw what you wanted to see
Wonder if anyone told their defenders not to try as they threw their bodies in the way of a fair few shots for a team that was so in control
everybody has different opinions frank the point i was making was that i thought west ham could have scored more goals against us than they did yes we were much better 2nd half just didnt think they were that bothered about scoring more goals they were comfortable but hecky played the wrong side today and hes putting his job in jeopardy with his naive tactics he cant play 2 strikers and mcatee and hamer in tough away games
 
Deadbat's reports have always had inaccuracies. He thought many times last season that we wouldn't get promotion

Hard work being right all the time isnt it Silent Blade

For the record I thought West Ham just coasted 2nd half and just saw out the game. It was a comfortable 2-0 win. It was not about them not trying but they changed lots of key players and just sat in a solidn shape and did what they had to. We had one proper effort all game. We never looked like coming back. The BBC report says as much.

We did our best but it was not good enough by a long way as we are mismatched at this level. I'm not sure it's as simple as whether the players are giving up/not giving up. They are just not at the level required on the evidence so far.

It's not about quitting - but being realistic. The top league was nowhere near the standard it is now for power, athleticism and skill back in 1990-91 in my opinion so hard to compare - there were some really ordinary sides back then and now a days each team is packed full of talent/deeper squads. That season we went on a big unbeaten run post Xmas and soared up the league. That is not going to happen this time.
 
How the fuck would i know im not a west ham fan
I certainly dont think they were having a cigar as you were making out


What a moronic thing to say

I don’t think debating someone with your intelligence is going to be productive for anyone. So I wish you a good night.
 
Hard work being right all the time isnt it Silent Blade

For the record I thought West Ham just coasted 2nd half and just saw out the game. It was a comfortable 2-0 win. It was not about them not trying but they changed lots of key players and just sat in a solidn shape and did what they had to. We had one proper effort all game. We never looked like coming back. The BBC report says as much.

We did our best but it was not good enough by a long way as we are mismatched at this level. I'm not sure it's as simple as whether the players are giving up/not giving up. They are just not at the level required on the evidence so far.

It's not about quitting - but being realistic. The top league was nowhere near the standard it is now for power, athleticism and skill back in 1990-91 in my opinion so hard to compare - there were some really ordinary sides back then and now a days each team is packed full of talent/deeper squads. That season we went on a big unbeaten run post Xmas and soared up the league. That is not going to happen this time.
West ham could have won 15-0 but moyes tied their shoelaces together and threw pepper in their eyes
 
Reminded me of our strong showing in the 2nd half in the 2-0 away defeat at Man U in November 1990 and then we pulled off a good run a few weeks later. Our players haven't given up this season unlike some quitters in here

I was at Old Trafford that day, didn't we concede the goals in the last 20 minutes? Also remember singing "We'll meet again" given the assumption we were heading straight back down and getting pelted by coins from the seats above the away terrace. The Beesley/Rostron nightmare was yet to come too...

Admire your optimism, long way to go and all that, but this league is way tougher than back then. With the money gap, it's like we've turned up to a gun fight with a rusty spoon.
 
West ham could have won 15-0 but moyes tied their shoelaces together and threw pepper in their eyes
they could have won by 4 or 5 frank if they had really wanted to thats the match i saw today but did think there were some positive signs in that 2nd half for us davies looked fitter than last week when he came on and has to play at fulham slimane looked useful and even saw something from brewster when he came on him and archer could be an interesting strike partnerships in home games
 

Reminded me of our strong showing in the 2nd half in the 2-0 away defeat at Man U in November 1990 and then we pulled off a good run a few weeks later. Our players haven't given up this season unlike some quitters in here
Thank you. I thought the same thing and I’m pleased I’m not going mad.
 
Good to know that if we ever have a crackpot owner there are several fans on here that will clap him to fuck no matter what.

Goes with the territory given that we are COMPLETE FUCKING SHIT at this level yet people refuse to admit it.

Anyone who thinks we’ve been unlucky so far would absolutely pay Chansiri 50 thousand quid for a match ticket
 
Good to know that if we ever have a crackpot owner there are several fans on here that will clap him to fuck no matter what.

Goes with the territory given that we are COMPLETE FUCKING SHIT at this level yet people refuse to admit it.

Anyone who thinks we’ve been unlucky so far would absolutely pay Chansiri 50 thousand quid for a match ticket
Nice rant
Complete bullshit like but nice rant
 
First half I was worried we were going to take another tonking. Second half we looked like we were playing with more freedom. I'll take that crumb of comfort and not worry about whether or not West Ham went into cruise mode - we're not in control of that.
 
Hard work being right all the time isnt it Silent Blade

For the record I thought West Ham just coasted 2nd half and just saw out the game. It was a comfortable 2-0 win. It was not about them not trying but they changed lots of key players and just sat in a solidn shape and did what they had to. We had one proper effort all game. We never looked like coming back. The BBC report says as much.

We did our best but it was not good enough by a long way as we are mismatched at this level. I'm not sure it's as simple as whether the players are giving up/not giving up. They are just not at the level required on the evidence so far.

It's not about quitting - but being realistic. The top league was nowhere near the standard it is now for power, athleticism and skill back in 1990-91 in my opinion so hard to compare - there were some really ordinary sides back then and now a days each team is packed full of talent/deeper squads. That season we went on a big unbeaten run post Xmas and soared up the league. That is not going to happen this time.
This is an unforgiving league, every time we get into the PL it is now harder for us to compete with most of the clubs (especially the London clubs) when it comes to spending power. I am fed up of reading harsh comments about our players and our coaching staff.

Yes this season is much harder than it was in 1990/91 but I thought we showed some fight in the 2nd half yesterday, it looked like the new signings are starting to know each other better and hopefully we will start to pick up points soon.

If West Ham stayed at Upton Park then they wouldnt have thrived like they have since the move to the new ground. Looking around Stratford and walking round the London stadium you see reasons why the place bring in so much money. Very different from walking through the Moor in Sheffield.
 
I’ve never seen clutching at straws like I have today.
Each to their own but I think some would call it being a supporter. i.e. positivity at all times. Personally, every match represents a ray of hope and so i start each game believing we have a chance. Unless being miserable makes you happy, I’m not sure what the point of turning up is otherwise?
 
I do wonder what our record is in recent years against Prem teams (in the cup). That's the kind of fight we need right now. Even the atmosphere against Newcastle was incredibly odd from the start.
 

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