The enigma that is Didsy

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From the pig end said:
You dont simply go out and find a player that has all the attributes of McGoldrick but with the finishing of Sharp.
There are very few in the world, even less in our price range.
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They don’t need the finishing of Billy. Someone who can score more than 0 will do.
 

Akinbiyi said:
They don’t need the finishing of Billy. Someone who can score more than 0 will do.
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That made me laugh.
It's a bit simplistic though, if you're going off 'zero goals' then you must think that we would be in the same position whoever we had up top? Salmon wouldnt have scored yet either but if he started for us every game still we wouldnt be half as good as we are.
 
From the pig end said:
That made me laugh.
It's a bit simplistic though, if you're going off 'zero goals' then you must think that we would be in the same position whoever we had up top? Salmon wouldnt have scored yet either but if he started for us every game still we wouldnt be half as good as we are.
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No exactly. I couldn’t agree more. That’s why I’ve said we have to try and find a similar style of player with all his attributes. McGoldrick was going on a free, he needed a trial in order to get a contract here, let’s not pretend that it’s mission impossible
 
All this is so harsh on Goldy- without him this year we would be languishing at the bottom- hes the best player we have by a mile.

He brings so much to our game, he is the main reason we are doing so well this year.

Thats not saying the rest aren't good they are - today with just a bit more luck we'd have won. Against a Wolves team that are also brilliant- All the players have stepped up but Goldy is on a different level.

The talk of upgrading him in January - you'd have to be off your rocker to consider such madness- or you'd have about 60 million in your back pocket.

All I can say is thank God for Goldy- you make this team tick -(along with Norwod / Lunny / Enda / Flecky/ Baldock/ Jack/ Hendo/ Deano / Mousse and unbelievably Bash)
 
Scored a goal at where was it now, mmm oh yes fuckin Tottenham
 
Dizzy is brilliant on the ball until he gets in the box.
He is integral to our style, but he can't hit a cows arse with a banjo. He might possibly be one of the worst strikers we have ever had in terms of goals per chance. At the same time we look far weaker without him playing.
I have no idea how to solve this conundrum and suspect we cant afford a player who could fill the role he is expected to play. We should have won today but lack of firepower let us down. blaming didzy for this is totally wrong, he is trying to play two roles as far as I can see.
 
Trafford said:
And that’s the enigma. Unfortunately he also cost us a goal today by letting their player drift past him and plant a free header into the net.
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blademark said:
Totally missing the point if you don't mind me saying. We don't have a better alternative currently, so yes, we are better with him in the team. Doesn't mean he can't be improved upon in in future.
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No I think you're all missing the point. The point is that certainly since the Arsenal game which was the first time that we started with Mousset and Didzy as the front two, or at least as a 9 and a 10, the whole team looks better balanced and has created more chances. Does it matter who puts the ball in the net? If you watch our play recently, Fleck and Lundstram are sometimes further forward than Didzy, it's gives the defenders difficult decisions to make about who they are marking and both Fleck and Lundstram have been in the goals. Ok so Didzy has missed a few, he knows it, Wilder knows it, but they both also know that he will score, because he keeps getting in the right positions, if he wasn't that would be more concerning. Yeah we could look at improvements, but you could say that about any position, I personally think it would be very difficult to find someone in our price range that does what Didzy does for us. As Wilder said a couple of weeks ago, he's like a magician. And apparently today he let his man go and they score, so on that basis, we're going to throw him under the bus - fucking unbelievable some of our fans. The man is a proper fucking baller and we're lucky to have him. You should try to enjoy him while you can.
 
coaxingstar71 said:
No I think you're all missing the point. The point is that certainly since the Arsenal game which was the first time that we started with Mousset and Didzy as the front two, or at least as a 9 and a 10, the whole team looks better balanced and has created more chances. Does it matter who puts the ball in the net? If you watch our play recently, Fleck and Lundstram are sometimes further forward than Didzy, it's gives the defenders difficult decisions to make about who they are marking and both Fleck and Lundstram have been in the goals. Ok so Didzy has missed a few, he knows it, Wilder knows it, but they both also know that he will score, because he keeps getting in the right positions, if he wasn't that would be more concerning. Yeah we could look at improvements, but you could say that about any position, I personally think it would be very difficult to find someone in our price range that does what Didzy does for us. As Wilder said a couple of weeks ago, he's like a magician. And apparently today he let his man go and they score, so on that basis, we're going to throw him under the bus - fucking unbelievable some of our fans. The man is a proper fucking baller and we're lucky to have him. You should try to enjoy him while you can.
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Good points mate. I do enjoy him, we don't have anybody better, he makes us play better etc etc.
If he could only cut out the glaring misses.
 
SuperBobbyHatton said:
he is trying to play two roles as far as I can see.
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Very good point.
That said, a few of our players are, that's one of our strengths.
We could use Freeman as a number 10 instead, but (even with McGoldrick's current goalscoring record) we would be less of a goal threat.
 
blademark said:
Not so outlandish really. All Managers are constantly looking to upgrade, but Didzy, much as we love him, is currently a glaring weak link, at least in the goal scoring department. We can't rely on Mousset alone. Imagine if he had taking just half of the glaring misses, we could be 2 or 3 places higher.
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🤦🏽‍♂️
 
Stick McGoldrick in the “Duffy role” against Newcastle with McBurnie and Mousset as the front two. We’ve looked an unbelievable side playing that system in the last three years so I think it’s time to go back to it now we have some winnable games coming up.
 
Didzy’s all round contribution to the team is immense but I also agree he is poor in front of goal. The problem I see is he doesn’t strike the ball cleanly enough. When he is in a pressure situation (as in a clear goal opportunity) his foot doesn’t seem to go smoothly through the ball - usually scuffing it or miss placing it.

Love him all the same !

UTB.
 

he is hugely important to how we play. he creates so much for example if mcgoldrick doesnt make that run mousset doesnt make it 2-0 v man utd & stat i said few months ago bergkamp is considered 1 of premier leagues greatest players but as striker hes not even in the 100 club & outscored by Heskey, Crouch & Darren bent

but he is going to need to chip in at times. but he has to stay in the team. preferably as a no 10. but then that affects the 3 great in the midfield
 
blade too long said:
Mc Goldrick is irreplaceable
He plays we don't lose
Goal scoring .... he cost us nothing
Arsenal paid 60m for Pepe
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I just made a poem out of that with adding a new last line.

McGoldrick is irreplaceable
He plays we don't lose
Goal scoring...he cost us nothing
He leaves that job to Moose.
 
From the pig end said:
Very good point.
That said, a few of our players are, that's one of our strengths.
We could use Freeman as a number 10 instead, but (even with McGoldrick's current goalscoring record) we would be less of a goal threat.
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Totally agree mate, Didzy's movement seems to cause problems in opposition defence which leaves gaps for our other striker. His assist stats are low but he usually as a hand in creating space . It's really a dilemma. He contributes much more than his stats suggest.
 
Is he a good player? No. He’s better than that. He’s sublime. A wonderful footballer who is so good on the ball, linking up play. His movement and skill are superb.

Is he what we need up front? Afraid not. He is just not clinical enough. Not at this level.

Should we replace him? No. Definitely not. Just play him in the 10 role where he is at his best but get a partner for Mousset who has pace and can finish. He doesn’t have to have all McGoldricks other attributes. McGoldrick will still be in the team to offer that. But we need to be more ruthless in front of goal.
 
Cerberus Blade said:
Is he a good player? No. He’s better than that. He’s sublime. A wonderful footballer who is so good on the ball, linking up play. His movement and skill are superb.

Is he what we need up front? Afraid not. He is just not clinical enough. Not at this level.

Should we replace him? No. Definitely not. Just play him in the 10 role where he is at his best but get a partner for Mousset who has pace and can finish. He doesn’t have to have all McGoldricks other attributes. McGoldrick will still be in the team to offer that. But we need to be more ruthless in front of goal.
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Ooh, that post was full of suspense!

In ll seriousness, I think the midfield will be overrun if we play McGoldrick and two strikers.
 
Akinbiyi said:
But he’s a striker, we simply can’t afford to carry a striker who doesn’t score goals.
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The fact we are where we are, without Didzy scoring suggests that's not true.

On the subject of finding a replacement, I look at all the "strikers" in the PL and think; who has link-up play on a par with McGoldrick but can actually score goals? Beyond Firminio, and perhaps Son, I dont think there are any.
 
crucialkneeligaman said:
At championship level like Didzy did last season but reasonable suggestion.
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Point taken, although Bowen scored 22 to Didzy's 15 (in a promotion winning side). Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of Didzy and the way he plays, I was merely suggesting an alternative who may bring the excellent link up play but more of a goal threat, with consideration to who might be available within our likely budget.
 
Do we think perhaps (and sorry if someone has made the same point) he's just too relaxed? I refuse to believe that the man who is so incredible on the ball and has such a good level of composure, does not have the ability to pop it in from 6 yards repeatedly.

Flight a difficult ball to him on the edge of the box with two men all over him, and he'll bring it down, twist the oppo inside out and lay it off with ease. Move him towards goal with an easy header he only has to put slightly to the left of the keeper for a goal and he'll put it down the middle. Genuinely odd.
 
YES Blade said:
Stick McGoldrick in the “Duffy role” against Newcastle with McBurnie and Mousset as the front two. We’ve looked an unbelievable side playing that system in the last three years so I think it’s time to go back to it now we have some winnable games coming up.
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This is a good idea. Let's have a Reyt go. McGoldrick would feel less pressure to score (so he probably would) as an out n out striker and link up play superbly (as he does every game).
That gives the Moose to play off McBurnies knock downs and Didzys approach play.
Winner winner Adam Reach another dinner
 
Guesty said:
Ooh, that post was full of suspense!

In ll seriousness, I think the midfield will be overrun if we play McGoldrick and two strikers.
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Hmmm! 🤔

Not sure I agree that we'd get overrun in midfield by playing McGoldrick in a 10. However, it's all about opinions. My view is that this midfield/team will evolve over the next 12 months. I think we'll see several new faces as we "upgrade" from where we are now. And I think these will come from all areas of the team - defence, midfield, attack. I'd like to see us sign a winger who can dribble and take players on. I realise this will provoke responses of "Wilder doesn't play wingers". A bit like when I said last season that we need to sign a striker with pace I got responses of, "We don't need pace". I'm talking about what I think are great qualities for any team to have. Another would be a bone-crushing, enforcer, in midfield. I think we could do with one of those. We could also do with some competition for Norwood in the creativity department.

Chris will see all these things. Whether he will have the investment to allow him to do something about them, we don't know. I hope so though because, good team though we are, the team needs to constantly evolve and that costs money.
 
McGoldrick is a Rolls Royce of a player.

I’ve seen very few footballers blessed with his intelligence, instinct and spatial awareness of what is going on around him. It is fucking criminal he wasted 5 years of his career at Ipswich chasing aimless hoofs down the flanks under Barnsley Mick when he is such a complete footballer,

I’m also fairly willing to state unequivocally that last season Sharp wouldn’t have scored as many as he did without McGoldrick alongside him linking up the play with all the delicacy and touch of an artist creating a masterpiece whilst all around him played with the all the bruising intensity of horde of buffalo rampaging across the plains of North America
 

He scored at Tottenham. Didn't miss any chances v manu. Yesterday Came within a gnats nadger with a great header on less than a half a chance. Hit the target with two others but goal keeper well positioned. What about the screaming sitter that grealish of England missed ? Thank god that wasn't Didsy. Focusssing on this misses the wonderful reality that after a tricky 10 game start United have found a strike partnership that is tearing a new one in prem defences. Hat trick for Didsy v geordies.
 
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