The 14 million - Where has it gone.

[Tickhillblade]

14 Million divided by 20 players equates to an average of £13500 per player per week.

Post your thoughts as to who's on what.

Do not include Billy as he was being paid by Donny.

 

[Nick Jansky]

But you will have to include every single player we have had on loan.

 

[Blade58]

But you will have to include every single player we have had on loan.

The loans cost us £2m as confirmed by messrs Birch and McCabe.

This leaves £12m on a depleted squad.

Also, remember any long term injuries not playing eg. Naysmith. What was it £13k/week or the likes.. That's what, £650k on one player?

Paddy's another.

Then the likes of the prolific Ryan France, who played how many times?


Nevermind...................new broom........blah blah

 

[Tickhillblade]

O.k Then accourding to Soccerbase our players are as follows, this doesn't include loanees.

Including the youngsters it works out at £9500 per player per week.

There must be some taking home megabucks.

Value for money?


2 Ryan France (M)
3 Gary Naysmith (D)
4 Nick Montgomery (M)
5 Chris Morgan (D)
7 Darius Henderson (F)
9 Ched Evans (F)
11 Mark Yeates (F)
12 Lee Williamson (M)
13 Ian Bennett (G)
15 James Harper (M)
16 Andy Taylor (D)
17 Richard Cresswell (F)
18 Jamie Ward (M)
19 Jordan Stewart (M)
22 Justin Haber (G)
25 Glen Little (M)
26 Derek Geary (D)
28 Stephen Quinn (M)
29 Jordan Robertson (F)
30 Mihkel Aksalu (G)
33 Johnathan Fortune (D)
34 Matthew Lowton (D)
37 Henri Camara (F)
40 Phil Roebuck (D)
Paddy Kenny (G)

 

[DazBlade88]

I would say that Kenny, Creswell, Evans, Harper, Naysmith, Henderson, Camara and maybe Morgan are all on 5 figure wages.

Another thing you might have to take into account is appearance fees, goal bonuses etc. You'll never be able to work it out.

 

[bladesman1889]

I think that figure includes staff costs as well.

 

[H. Metal Blade]

yeah we've played vastly mroe than 20 players - and i understood the £2mil loan fee to eman that what we;ve paid to loan players,,,as a fee...not including their wages once they're here!

Plus...most if not all the loan players have been staying in a luxury pad at the copthorne hotel...bet thats been a nice bit of cash swapping!

an average of £9k p/player aint too bad considering we;ll have at least 7 players who are on above £15k p/w

 

[Bergen Blade]

I think we pay a LOT of money to players who play rather ordinary football. Bit ironic that fans seem to be wanting a lot of these players to be kept/given new contracts?

The chance of a real clear out and a carefully planned building of a new squad excites me a bit, but I won't be excited at all if what we line up in August with is something like:

Kenny
Connolly Morgan Seip Naysmith
Yeates Monty Quinn Cresswell
Henderson Sharp​

Although there would be some more signings, I feel this would mean more of the same.

 

[DuncDisorderly]

The club employs the best part of 500 people, although I guess quite a few are matchday staff.

Bergen, we'll have to see what we get over the summer. I wouldn't be completely unhappy with that team because it would be competitive in the league, but its not going to set pulses racing with flowing football. We could be using the backbone of the team we have and adding squad players. On the other hand the Chairman may be making new demands on Blackwell in terms of style as well as performance, and if he gets some money to spend, then we might be in for a pleasant surprise...

 

[alcoblade]

Does the £14M include non football staff? I suspect it does, and as Dunc says there's a lot of 'em. That said, when there's a clamour for "directors of football", we should remember that it's another £0.5M per year going up in smoke on a role with no evidence to support its' worth.

I suspect the average will be far less than initially suggested, but none the less I think many of us would choke if we saw how much we've been paying the likes of Naysmith, Morgan, Monty, Kenny etc. All good players IMO, all vastly overpaid I fear.

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[GRUMPY BLADE]

Down the pisser.

Seroiusly though the Chairman should not say the players wage bill is £14m if it includes 500 people although I've lost count of how many we had on loan so 500 may be not far off.

 

[LouTheBlade]

Interesting subject, although I think McCabe and Birch meant the playing staff when they referred to £14M because that was the question. I cant imagine that includes everyone from goalie to pot washer but I suppose its not completely unfeesible. I would guess that our top earner is probably Naysmith. I would guess he's out on his own by a good few thousand a week as well. Mainly because of the timing of signing him and being a household name.

In the second bracket I would guess Paddy, Morgan, Henderson, Evans, Camara and Harper are all on very good salaries. Possibly even creeping into 5 figures a week. Sharp would probably be in this bracket too but his wages were paid by Donny this year apparently (amazingly as well).

The third bracket would probably list Monty, Ward, Cresswell, Quinn, Yeates, Bennett, Geary and Williamson. All the other players are probably taking home fairly modest sums in football terms.

That would be my guess. Although I imagine there isnt a great deal of difference between the second and third bracket (maybe 2-3k). It wouldnt surprise me at all to see Naysmith on much more than everyone else.

 

[Linz]

A lot of the matchday staff are now not directly employed by Sheffield United... they've been outsourced to Compass.

I'm not sure but the £14mil might include agents fees as well as loan fees and wages.

 

[alcoblade]

Interesting subject, although I think McCabe and Birch meant the playing staff when they referred to £14M because that was the question. I cant imagine that includes everyone from goalie to pot washer but I suppose its not completely unfeesible. I would guess that our top earner is probably Naysmith. I would guess he's out on his own by a good few thousand a week as well. Mainly because of the timing of signing him and being a household name.

In the second bracket I would guess Paddy, Morgan, Henderson, Evans, Camara and Harper are all on very good salaries. Possibly even creeping into 5 figures a week. Sharp would probably be in this bracket too but his wages were paid by Donny this year apparently (amazingly as well).

The third bracket would probably list Monty, Ward, Cresswell, Quinn, Yeates, Bennett, Geary and Williamson. All the other players are probably taking home fairly modest sums in football terms.

That would be my guess. Although I imagine there isnt a great deal of difference between the second and third bracket (maybe 2-3k). It wouldnt surprise me at all to see Naysmith on much more than everyone else.

It's widley suggested that Naysmith earns about £17K per week ( ) . If the £14M doesn't include other staff and using simple numbers we had 28 players (surely we had less?) - that's an average of £10K per week. So Naysmith is clearly not in his own bracket. I fear the likes of Stewart wont be far behind, if at all. And yes, I meant Jordan Stewart!

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[beightonblade]

£14million...................value for money .......yer havin a laff !

 

[lenners]

Does the £14M include non football staff? I suspect it does, and as Dunc says there's a lot of 'em. That said, when there's a clamour for "directors of football", we should remember that it's another £0.5M per year going up in smoke on a role with no evidence to support its' worth.

I suspect the average will be far less than initially suggested, but none the less I think many of us would choke if we saw how much we've been paying the likes of Naysmith, Morgan, Monty, Kenny etc. All good players IMO, all vastly overpaid I fear.

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The £14m does not include other staff.
Presumably Killa wasn't on peanuts for half the season.

 

[Micalijo]

The club employs the best part of 500 people, although I guess quite a few are matchday staff.

Bergen, we'll have to see what we get over the summer. I wouldn't be completely unhappy with that team because it would be competitive in the league, but its not going to set pulses racing with flowing football. We could be using the backbone of the team we have and adding squad players. On the other hand the Chairman may be making new demands on Blackwell in terms of style as well as performance, and if he gets some money to spend, then we might be in for a pleasant surprise...

'if he gets some money to spend'. Tricky as much as said transfer fees were a thing of the past in football.

I thought there was a chill wind? Do you really think Blackwell is capable of offering pleasant surprises. We will get the slowest, weakest and least creative football in the tier again if Blackwell is in charge. He's had his chance at the big-time and has proved woefully inadequate on every count.

I'm sure it would be alot easier to sack Blackwell rather than asking him to achieve the impossible and move himself out of the dark ages. Maybe McCabe will also ask Blackwell to stop treating the fans like meaningless irritants in his post match analysis.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

The club employs the best part of 500 people, although I guess quite a few are matchday staff.

Bergen, we'll have to see what we get over the summer. I wouldn't be completely unhappy with that team because it would be competitive in the league, but its not going to set pulses racing with flowing football. We could be using the backbone of the team we have and adding squad players. On the other hand the Chairman may be making new demands on Blackwell in terms of style as well as performance, and if he gets some money to spend, then we might be in for a pleasant surprise...

That chin is amazing Dunc, were you ever a boxing world champion?

 

[LouTheBlade]

Dont forget Kyle Walker as well. When he came back on loan he had just signed a permanent contract with Spurs. I would imagine we were paying him a much bigger salary after that. Unless it was percentage based. Who knows.....

 

[Micalijo]

That chin is amazing Dunc, were you ever a boxing world champion?

It's just incredibkle isn't it? I'm worried now that I've been arguing with a pure wind-up merchant for the past year or so because nobody can say that about Blackwell/Bob and mean it can they?

 

[Micalijo]

Dont forget Kyle Walker as well. When he came back on loan he had just signed a permanent contract with Spurs. I would imagine we were paying him a much bigger salary after that. Unless it was percentage based. Who knows.....

Who knows? If the forum was owt to go by, Bob and Tricky don't - which is slightly worrying.

 

[super_pig]

heh.. kyle naughton and kyle walker were still on trainee wages when they left.. apparently :-/

 

[lenners]

heh.. kyle naughton and kyle walker were still on trainee wages when they left.. apparently :-/

We got £3m for Kyle Walker and a half-arsed loan deal which when it went tits up so did our season.
Never thought that sale made sense and it looks even more foolhardy now.

 

[Ollessendro]

People on 10k or above for a significant part of the season: Camara, Henderson, Morgan, Monty, Naysmith, Evans, Cotterill, Walker, Andrew Davies, Nosworthy and Kilgallon. You might be able to add Williamson, Harper, Yeates, Cresswell, Bunn and Quinny to that too. Players like Bartley and Kalio will have been earning a fair whack too. It's easy to see how it has added up. Although I'm amazed that it racked up to £14 million. To have such a thin squad and play such terrible football, on the 4th highest wage bill in the league is nothing short of criminal,

 

[alcoblade]

I bet between Speed (players contract still in place) and Naysmith we hemorrhaged £2M per year on players who added zero on the field. Though Blackwell isn't blameless, the damage from the Robson era is still being felt.

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