Teams leaving players out of 25 man squads

[jt64]

Doyle, who you mention, is a case in point. He's never going to be good enough to hold a place in City's team. On the other hand they could have received a fee for him after his loan at Cardiff.

The question is though:

• Does it help City to have to sell him a year before they actually did do (for what seems like an artificially low fee)?
• Does it help Doyle to have to move out to a likely worse club than he has done on less money a year earlier than he would have had to?
• Does it help SUFC not having had Doyle on loan last season as we wouldn't have done under your rules?

The answer to all those is no. Forcing players out at an arbitrary age doesn't help anyone. Heck, in Doyle's case, do City even pick him up in their academy in the first place, or is he needing to go to somewhere worse?

If a player is desperate to play, they will find a way to do so, someone choosing to move to a club where they know they are going to be a marginal player for more money doesn't have the right to cry about not having game time if the club buys in players who are clearly better than him. Either pick a better club for your career development, or stay at your current club where you know you are getting playing time.

 

[gordoncharles]

The question is though:

• Does it help City to have to sell him a year before they actually did do (for what seems like an artificially low fee)?
• Does it help Doyle to have to move out to a likely worse club than he has done on less money a year earlier than he would have had to?
• Does it help SUFC not having had Doyle on loan last season as we wouldn't have done under your rules?

The answer to all those is no. Forcing players out at an arbitrary age doesn't help anyone. Heck, in Doyle's case, do City even pick him up in their academy in the first place, or is he needing to go to somewhere worse?

If a player is desperate to play, they will find a way to do so, someone choosing to move to a club where they know they are going to be a marginal player for more money doesn't have the right to cry about not having game time if the club buys in players who are clearly better than him. Either pick a better club for your career development, or stay at your current club where you know you are getting playing time.

We might have had Doyle under contract last season for all you know. Would that have been better for us?

 

[jt64]

We might have had Doyle under contract last season for all you know. Would that have been better for us?

If you think that we were paying what City would have wanted for Doyle last summer then that's hilarious

 

[gordoncharles]

If you think that we were paying what City would have wanted for Doyle last summer then that's hilarious

In my hypothetical world Manchester City would have had to sell him or include him in their 25 man squad, or risk having his contract annulled this summer.

Players in the last year of their contract are in a buyers market.

 

[Barney Rubble]

I broadly agree with the principle of clubs being limited to a squad of 25 senior professionals.

However allowances would need to be made for injured players. Take JOC barely played in our last 3 seasons and it would be wrong to have insisted that he must be part of our 25 man squad throughout that period.

The second issue would be what will happen to the released players. Presumably they'd mostly be sat on their backsides for months on end, because all the other clubs will have already filled their 25 man roster. (Although the Prince might argue that it's best to wait until the window closes because that's when all the bet bargains are available!)

 

[MadDad38]

In my hypothetical world Manchester City would have had to sell him or include him in their 25 man squad, or risk having his contract annulled this summer.

Players in the last year of their contract are in a buyers market.

Then surely all that happens is that City may have to sell him for less and his agent demands more per week as a result. Either way he’d have been out of our pruce range.

 

[Champagneblade]

I broadly agree with the principle of clubs being limited to a squad of 25 senior professionals.

However allowances would need to be made for injured players. Take JOC barely played in our last 3 seasons and it would be wrong to have insisted that he must be part of our 25 man squad throughout that period.

The second issue would be what will happen to the released players. Presumably they'd mostly be sat on their backsides for months on end, because all the other clubs will have already filled their 25 man roster. (Although the Prince might argue that it's best to wait until the window closes because that's when all the bet bargains are available!)

I think most would accept that leaving long term injured players out of the 25 man squad would be a legitimate reason.

But leaving able bodied, ready to play, professionals out doesn't sit well, especially when it's clear you could have let them out on loan or perm, but were unhelpful in doing so, in the case of Wednesday.

 

[WORKSOPBLADE]

It’s out. All our injured players on the list !!

https://x.com/nathanh79/status/1701998445223915863?s=46&t=4W2bnGSZvKs3BnpR3zdk7g

 

[Lord Eddard Muir]

Best thing about this is learning everyone's middle names. Some corkers in there.

 

[Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou]

Best thing about this is learning everyone's middle names. Some corkers in there.

DESMOND

 

[Lord Eddard Muir]

DESMOND

And the only Greek to be named Ivor in that nation's long and illustrious history.

 

[Nick Jansky]

And the only Greek to be named Ivor in that nation's long and illustrious history.

Surprised the Welsh didn’t try to nab him if they’d spotted that. It’s probably enough.

 

[Carlton Blade]

Jackson Stylianou Blaize. Nice

 

[Carlton Blade]

We’ve got 25 senior salaries on the books and they’ve all been named. I imagine every £ is debated and Fleck/Osborn new deals took any budget for frees other than Tom Davies

 

[IOM Blade]

Interesting to see the list of players left out by other teams. Imagine there's a fair few who would walk into our first 11.

 

[dsr-burnley]

If it's a middle names competition, Jack Frank Porteous Cork is Burnley's (long undefeated) nomination.