Steve Davies.

[jt64]

Just seen this elsewhere, would seem to be a no brainer pickup assuming he doesn't take the piss with wages

 

[Revolution]

I would regard this as a certainty unless we are also in for O'Grady.

My prediction if he signs: 30 odd games, single figure goals.

 

[Lane Ender]

I would regard this as a certainty unless we are also in for O'Grady.

My prediction if he signs: 30 odd games, single figure goals.

And thats not acceptable for a striker or a target man

 

[Grecian2000]

Are you predicting a nice tan as well Rev?

 

[Worksop_Blade]

And thats not acceptable for a striker or a target man

Sounds bang on for a Nigel Clough centre forward.

 

[Revolution]

Are you predicting a nice tan as well Rev?

Hell yes.

 

[Bergen Blade]

I would regard this as a certainty unless we are also in for O'Grady.

My prediction if he signs: 30 odd games, single figure goals.

8 goals in 33 games for us and Blackpool last season. I think he can do better in a good team, though he may become second choice if O'Grady comes.

 

[alcoblade]

Reed and Doyle. Give Reed his head. Baxter and Scougall are not box to box players with enough energy.

BTW I really do think we need to inspire Reed now. He has been away with the England squad and he will realise more than ever just how good he is. That's not to say I don't think Clough has not done very well with Reed's development, he has, but we need Reed more than he needs us at this stage of the season.

Holt? No thanks.

His performances will need to be an awful lot better than a they were at the end of last season.

Reed needs to prove himself to us, not the other way around.


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[Going up]

After a big miss in the first leg, showed strength of character to play a big game and get a goal was n the second leg.

With a firing Flynn and Murphy, he will score and he seems to link up well with Done too.

Wants to play for our club and repay the faith Nigel put in him.

A no brainer, if we can afford him.

 

[wizadry]

Reed and Doyle. Give Reed his head. Baxter and Scougall are not box to box players with enough energy.

but we need Reed more than he needs us at the moment.

Only just seen this thread, you think Scougall is not a player with enough energy yet you'd have played Doyle, that's a strange one

And the Reed comment is just ludicrous.

 

[Putney Blade]

S Davies is this years donkey we have signed post Jan that won't score following in the footsteps of Paynter, Forte, Beattie, Bent......

and, Porter, Higdon etc - totally agree, but NC won't see this and buy the Blackpool 'donkey'...

 

[sitwell]

and, Porter, Higdon etc - totally agree, but NC won't see this and buy the Blackpool 'donkey'...

You've not seen him play have you , to label him a donkey and put him in the same category as porter and Higdon ,is just stupid.

 

[Deadbat]

I like Davies. Decent in the air, holds the ball up, fairly mobile and decent with both feet BUT if we do not play two up front then not sure he/we would score enough goals. Do think if Done gets fit and those 2 were able to play a run of games, they would scored a lot next season but have a feeling Clough still is convinced we will sign O'Grady. I would prefer O'Grady but unsure the difference between the two is that great.

 

[Going up]

I like Davies. Decent in the air, holds the ball up, fairly mobile and decent with both feet BUT if we do not play two up front then not sure he/we would score enough goals. Do think if Done gets fit and those 2 were able to play a run of games, they would scored a lot next season but have a feeling Clough still is convinced we will sign O'Grady. I would prefer O'Grady but unsure the difference between the two is that great.

With Done, Che, McNulty and Murphy, I believe that Davies would be very effective and we would score plenty of goals.

The difference, between O'Grady and Davies is merely in the likelihood of picking up injuries. As Nigel knows very well, Steve is a good player, but can pick up an injury at any moment.

Ideally, we have both. I doubt that there would be any stopping us, with a good back gour and that firepower up front.

 

[Revolution]

I like Davies. Decent in the air, holds the ball up, fairly mobile and decent with both feet BUT if we do not play two up front then not sure he/we would score enough goals. Do think if Done gets fit and those 2 were able to play a run of games, they would scored a lot next season but have a feeling Clough still is convinced we will sign O'Grady. I would prefer O'Grady but unsure the difference between the two is that great.

In the league last year. O'Grady managed 1 goal in 4 games for us...and 1 goal in 28 games for Brighton (15 starts) last season.

Deadbat is right - if we play with one of these guys up front on his own we aren't going to get enough goals.

It is also a dumb idea to play 1 up front when we have players (Done, McNulty, maybe Adams) who can feed off another forward. If we are aiming for the top 2 we must be more ambitious and make good use of the striking resources we have.

I think Davies is more likely to sign than O'Grady on the basis that he is free and O'Grady is under contract. I wouldn't sign him because I don't trust him to stay fit, given his past track record.

The signing of both of them would be a dumb move in my opinion as you further marginalise players like Done who actually have scored goals in numbers recently.

 

[Woodwardfan]

Only just seen this thread, you think Scougall is not a player with enough energy yet you'd have played Doyle, that's a strange one

And the Reed comment is just ludicrous.

Bit historic this Wiz but as you raise it:

It's about playing partnerships in the various areas of the field. Central midfield in a 4-4-2 is hard to man. I'd play Doyle in any system for his positional sense, leadership and organisation of others and his tenacity and concentration. Reed complements him in that he can do the yards but can keep possession of the ball in all areas of the field, including forward passing.

Doyle/ Basham - not enough going forward.

Doyle/ Coutts - not enough anything, Coutts too limited to play with Doyle, the only case for him would have been instead of Doyle

Doyle/ Baxter - Jose doesn't keep the pot boiling enough.

Doyle/Scougall -Scougs doesn't have enough in his locker .

 

[Woodwardfan]

His performances will need to be an awful lot better than a they were at the end of last season.

Reed needs to prove himself to us, not the other way around.


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Without reading all posts, can I ask why my post on 1st April is suddenly attracting attention? ( You and Wiz) Have I missed something?

Looking back though I have to say it was an excellent OP!

 

[Revolution]

Without reading all posts, can I ask why my post on 1st April is suddenly attracting attention? ( You and Wiz) Have I missed something?

Looking back though I have to say it was an excellent OP!

Because Steve Davies, with his modest scoring record and poor injury record, has been released by Blackpool and knowing our manager will be a Blades player shortly...

 

[Woodwardfan]

Because Steve Davies, with his modest scoring record and poor injury record, has been released by Blackpool and knowing our manager will be a Blades player shortly...

I think Davies would be a good signing ONLY IF he was one of a four strong strike-force AND if we intend to play 4-4-2.

I would be happy to start the season with O'Grady and Done up front with Davies vying for O'Grady's position and somebody of Done's ilk vying with him but whether McNulty fits that bill is doubtful to me as I am a big believer in pace and mobility in that position.

No O'Grady and McNulty as back up to Davies? - still not good enough IMO. However if we find an Afobe type as No.1 striker to play alongside Done then Davies No.3 striker and McNulty No.4 striker looks good enough to me. Heaven in fact.

Whichever way Clough goes the strike-force has to be an emphatic statement of intent, no dithering and making do. Like last year he has all summer and not to have it sorted again until the end of the January Transfer window some 8 months later would be insulting to everybody connected to the club. Looking at it like that bothers me all over again but I am in my own mind trying to give Clough a fresh start honestly.

 

[BushBlade]

8 goals in 33 games for us and Blackpool last season. I think he can do better in a good team, though he may become second choice if O'Grady comes.

Better team and in a lower league. A strike force of Davies, O'Grady, Done and McNulty would be decent.

 

[jt64]

Sigh, it's descended into a 4-4-2 discussion again. Most teams have moved on from this relic of the twentieth century - have you all picked out the two new CMs that we're going to buy who are good enough to play against an extra man?

 

[super_pig]

Sigh, it's descended into a 4-4-2 discussion again. Most teams have moved on from this relic of the twentieth century - have you all picked out the two new CMs that we're going to buy who are good enough to play against an extra man?

yeah they 've gone 4-3-3 now get with the program (see barcelona) or 4 2 1 3 or whatever.. for the front three i'd like to see big bloke up front who can score goals.. two nippy players in behind .. read suarez.. messi.. neymar.. or benzema.. bale .. ronaldo.. so whoever.. done.. adams at this level

 

[Kenilworth]

Sigh, it's descended into a 4-4-2 discussion again. Most teams have moved on from this relic of the twentieth century - have you all picked out the two new CMs that we're going to buy who are good enough to play against an extra man?

Bournemouth play with 2 up top - figure that one out.
Their midfield still contribute but they play with a pair of front men

 

[jt64]

Bournemouth play with 2 up top - figure that one out.
Their midfield still contribute but they play with a pair of front men

On occasions they do when they're starting Pitman, but they have very, very good midfielders behind them and very, very good centre backs that play week in week out giving them the best spine in the division, so they can get away with it. When they're playing Kermogant it's clearly not a 4-4-2, he's an attacking midfielder/#10

 

[alcoblade]

Without reading all posts, can I ask why my post on 1st April is suddenly attracting attention? ( You and Wiz) Have I missed something?

Looking back though I have to say it was an excellent OP!

Fair point. I think the thread was revived and I noticed the date after typing. I nearly deleted but then considered that the point still holds. Reed still had a lot to prove. I'm sure you agree.

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[Woodwardfan]

Fair point. I think the thread was revived and I noticed the date after typing. I nearly deleted but then considered that the point still holds. Reed still had a lot to prove. I'm sure you agree.

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I think Reed has two years or more to prove anything but I also think he has proved he can have a brilliant future.

Other players in our midfield choices on 1st April had proved to me that they are simply not good enough and BTW Doyle was not one of those.

 

[Kenilworth]

On occasions they do when they're starting Pitman, but they have very, very good midfielders behind them and very, very good centre backs that play week in week out giving them the best spine in the division, so they can get away with it. When they're playing Kermogant it's clearly not a 4-4-2, he's an attacking midfielder/#10

Not when I have watched Kermit on the box he isn't - he's been part of the two up front and very much the give to and go guy - laying it off for the midfielders to run onto, or his strike partner, Wlison.
You might have drawn your conclusion because of the movement between them - but it's not Kermit behind Wilson, it's often Kermit as the focus and Wilson peeling off.
But, hey, if you see it differently then so be it - not a criticism just an alternative view.

 

[wizadry]

Without reading all posts, can I ask why my post on 1st April is suddenly attracting attention? ( You and Wiz) Have I missed something?

Looking back though I have to say it was an excellent OP!

The reason i only just raised the point is in the first line of my post. I have only just seen the thread, otherwise i'd have raised it earlier wwf. Out of the faults Scouggs has one of them isn't a lack of energy, that's all i wanted to say and i would still say that in 3 years time or back on the 1st of April.

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

I like Davies. Decent in the air, holds the ball up, fairly mobile and decent with both feet BUT if we do not play two up front then not sure he/we would score enough goals. Do think if Done gets fit and those 2 were able to play a run of games, they would scored a lot next season but have a feeling Clough still is convinced we will sign O'Grady. I would prefer O'Grady but unsure the difference between the two is that great.

Steve Davies is a good player and hope he becomes a permanent signing . No player seems to hit the ground running , even in the premiership . The bloke needs time to get bedded in , but signs were there at the end of the season , of a decent , unselfish forward , who will score and create goals for others . I prefer Davies to COG , from a effort and loyalty aspect . OK , he is not a out and out goal scorer , but certainly a good asset if we get him,

We need 4no good forwards in the squad , with Davies being one of them with Done .

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[alcoblade]

I think Reed has two years or more to prove anything but I also think he has proved he can have a brilliant future.

Other players in our midfield choices on 1st April had proved to me that they are simply not good enough and BTW Doyle was not one of those.

He's looked good at time and shit at others. Age is on his side (though size isn't) and I hope he makes it. I wouldn't be overly surprised if he didn't.

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