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Hiya good folks of Sheffield United.

I wonder if there is a Blade who fancies giving their views on the 1st leg of our League Cup semi-final at (I nearly put The Lane but remembered you play at The Lane too) White Hart Lane,

We always like to feature the view of an opposition fan on our site. We are not the kind of site that simply slags off the opposition. That said, it would be good to have a Sheffield United fan who speaks from their red and white heart.

We are looking for your views on how your season has gone so far and how you see it panning out? Your thoughts on reaching the semi final and being just one tie away from the final?

Maybe a little bit on what you think of Spurs generally. If you hate us no problem. Just tell it how you see it.

Finally, how you see the 1st leg going with a score prediction?

I will put a couple of sample articles up from our recent games against Palace and Newcastle fans

Palace fan:

http://www.thfclatest.com/2015/01/09/crystal-palace-fans-view-on-spurs/.

Newcastle fan's view of league Cup quarter final clash

http://www.thfclatest.com/2014/12/16/newcastle-fans-view-on-spurs-cup-tie/

Any article will be fully credited to whoever writes it and the s24su.com forum.

Anyone interested just pm me and I'll pop back over the next few days.

Cheers.
 

As a Blade who grew up in the 80's when we were awful, the only early memory is of a pre-season game at Bramall Lane which was won easily by a Spurs team featuring Garth Crooks, Glenn Hoddle, Steve Perryman et al.
My dad always considered Blades and Spurs to be equals in terms of size, stature, fan base, history etc (beating us in the 1901 Cup Final) and having lived through the 60's & 70's when we were both mostly in the top flight. In fact we hadn't finished below halfway of the second tier until the end of the 70's when we slipped down to the 4th division. My early years saw the rise back up the leagues until we came face to face again in the early 90's as a bone-fide top flight team under Dave 'Harry' Bassett.
Our first meeting ended in a 4-0 win for Spurs with Paul Walsh being the main destroyer but we fared much better after that, winning at White Hart Lane through a Kevin Gage goal and memorable games at the proper Lane including a 2-0 trouncing (you were never in it) as Brian Deane got both as Gary Lineker hardly had a touch and of course the 6-0 demolition in 1993 (which should have been 7 as Alan Cork had a perfectly good goal disallowed late on).
Up until this point I had no real dislike towards Spurs. I was a massive Hoddle fan and of course the Gascoigne & Lineker team were terrific to watch (mainly because of Gazza, who absolutely bossed a League Cup tie at Bramall Lane in the early 90's that Spurs won).
However my dislike of Spurs started in 1994, after we were relegated on the last day of the season when an injury time Mark Stein goal at Chelsea and an unlikely combination of results elsewhere (including Everton coming from 2-0 behind to beat Wimbledon 3-2 in a game which was later named in the match-fixing scandal implicating Dons keeper Hans Segers) relegated us. Spurs were also in the shake-up for relegation that season and if it hadn't been for a Keith Scott equiliser at White Hart Lane a few games earlier, Spurs would have gone down instead of us.
It then transpired that Spurs had been found guilty of financial irregularities and were fined and deducted 6 points, which would have meant relegation and saved The Blades. Alan Sugar sweet-talked the FA into making it a £1.5m fine instead, and the directions the two clubs took from there changed for the next 13 years, until we got to the top flight again in 2007. Our first away game that season saw an easy 2-0 win for Spurs whilst revenge was had at Bramall Lane with a 2-1 win for The Blades. However due to 'the Tevez saga' we were once again cheated out of our place in the top flight (spooky echoes of 13 years earlier) and due to shocking management decisions (by both board and managers) and shocking bad luck (two play-off final defeats, one on penalties after amassing 91 league points and not conceding in 300 minutes of football) we find ourselves languishing in League One with absolutely no prospect in the near future of getting out of it.
When it comes to London clubs Spurs are by no means the least liked (obviously West Ham, but also Chelsea, Millwall and QPR liked less) but the impression I have of Spurs fans (after living in London for the past 12 years) is that the fans expectations far exceed what is actually feasible. Spurs are not a Champions League team in the Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea & Arsenal mould (as fans of those clubs can reasonably expect to be in the top 4) but are in the bunch of teams below that group who should be expecting to finish top half but outside the top 4. I though Martin Jol was a terrific manager and successive sixth place finish was a magnificent effort, and that you'd be more successful if you stopped chopping and changing managers who haven't actually done that badly (we can also take a leaf from this book!).
This semi-final is a bit of a bonus for us. We do not expect to win over two legs (a one-off tie at Bramall Lane would have been interesting), I think the best we can hope for is a one-goal defeat just to keep the second leg alive. What will happen is a big following and a lot of noise. The fans are still Premier League class even if the team aren't! Nevertheless, we hope you win the final!


(Posted on S24SU forum so other posters can correct any inaccuracies as this is written straight from memory - which sometimes fails!)
 
I was at Bramall Lane in the mid-seventies when we played Spurs in the 2nd division, there was a big crowd for those days, I think we drew 1-1 or was it 2-2? Spurs were top of the league and went back up. Must've been January because we played Arsenal the week after in the Cup and lost 5-0 I seem to remember. It was all over by half-time, Arsenal had the great team of MacDonald, Nelson, Jennings (the great Arsenal keeper!)and above all the magical Liam Brady. (they'd call him 'mercurial' now, I don't really know why.)

Spurs was Perryman possibly a young Hoddle (but I doubt it) did Spurs wear that funny Strip with Admiral® logos running down little navy sort of 'braces' either side of the neck hole? or was that some other time?

Another early memory of Spurs at the same sort of time, I was in the Scout band playing at half-time at the Hawthorns and Spurs fans mounted a pitch invasion around us , I suppose they didn't like my bugling? all good fun, what larks......
 
vorpal blade said:
I was at Bramall Lane in the mid-seventies when we played Spurs in the 2nd division, there was a big crowd for those days, I think we drew 1-1 or was it 2-2? Spurs were top of the league and went back up.
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2nd January 1978. After a scoreless 1st half, goals from John Duncan and Peter Taylor gave Spurs a 2-0 lead before a header from Keth Edwards and a low left footed shot from the edge of the penalty box from Gary Hamson levelled the score
 
Thank you very much lads. Very much appreciated. I'll get a mixture of the article and comments up on our site nearer the game.
 
Given a bit more notice, I'd have knocked something up for ya. I'm aspiring to be a football writer so I'd have relished the opportunity. But I don't really have the time before Wednesday. (He says, while sipping coffee and watching the football on Sky)

What I will say though, is that Spurs are one of the few London clubs I actually like. There's a lot of class and history there, and the fans don't have that entitled dickheadish attitude that Arsenal and Chelsea fans have. We're routinely beating upper league sides at the moment, and we have beaten better this season already, so I doubt Spurs will destroy us. I saw Spurs away at Leicester on Boxing day, and noted the lack of width in their game, which actually plays right into our hands, as QPR found out to their cost the other week. I do think though, that Spurs have a lot of pace on the break, and that will ultimately be our undoing across 2 legs. If you do beat us, then I will be fully behind you to beat Chelsea in the final. The only London club worse than them is Arsenal.
 
Remember Jason Dozzell being instrumental in getting us relegation in 1993-94? In the home game (drew 2-2, Littlejohn getting both our goals) in September, he elbowed Alan Kelly in the face but the ref, Kelvin Morton, waved play on and Spurs then scored their 2nd goal while Kelly was lying on the ground in a daze (he had to be carried off and replaced by Tracey). In the away game (another 2-2 draw, Gayle and Blake scored) in March, Dozzell got the equaliser in injury time
 
SE1Blade said:
As a Blade who grew up in the 80's when we were awful, the only early memory is of a pre-season game at Bramall Lane which was won easily by a Spurs team featuring Garth Crooks, Glenn Hoddle, Steve Perryman et al.
My dad always considered Blades and Spurs to be equals in terms of size, stature, fan base, history etc (beating us in the 1901 Cup Final) and having lived through the 60's & 70's when we were both mostly in the top flight. In fact we hadn't finished below halfway of the second tier until the end of the 70's when we slipped down to the 4th division. My early years saw the rise back up the leagues until we came face to face again in the early 90's as a bone-fide top flight team under Dave 'Harry' Bassett.
Our first meeting ended in a 4-0 win for Spurs with Paul Walsh being the main destroyer but we fared much better after that, winning at White Hart Lane through a Kevin Gage goal and memorable games at the proper Lane including a 2-0 trouncing (you were never in it) as Brian Deane got both as Gary Lineker hardly had a touch and of course the 6-0 demolition in 1993 (which should have been 7 as Alan Cork had a perfectly good goal disallowed late on).
Up until this point I had no real dislike towards Spurs. I was a massive Hoddle fan and of course the Gascoigne & Lineker team were terrific to watch (mainly because of Gazza, who absolutely bossed a League Cup tie at Bramall Lane in the early 90's that Spurs won).
However my dislike of Spurs started in 1994, after we were relegated on the last day of the season when an injury time Mark Stein goal at Chelsea and an unlikely combination of results elsewhere (including Everton coming from 2-0 behind to beat Wimbledon 3-2 in a game which was later named in the match-fixing scandal implicating Dons keeper Hans Segers) relegated us. Spurs were also in the shake-up for relegation that season and if it hadn't been for a Keith Scott equiliser at White Hart Lane a few games earlier, Spurs would have gone down instead of us.
It then transpired that Spurs had been found guilty of financial irregularities and were fined and deducted 6 points, which would have meant relegation and saved The Blades. Alan Sugar sweet-talked the FA into making it a £1.5m fine instead, and the directions the two clubs took from there changed for the next 13 years, until we got to the top flight again in 2007. Our first away game that season saw an easy 2-0 win for Spurs whilst revenge was had at Bramall Lane with a 2-1 win for The Blades. However due to 'the Tevez saga' we were once again cheated out of our place in the top flight (spooky echoes of 13 years earlier) and due to shocking management decisions (by both board and managers) and shocking bad luck (two play-off final defeats, one on penalties after amassing 91 league points and not conceding in 300 minutes of football) we find ourselves languishing in League One with absolutely no prospect in the near future of getting out of it.
When it comes to London clubs Spurs are by no means the least liked (obviously West Ham, but also Chelsea, Millwall and QPR liked less) but the impression I have of Spurs fans (after living in London for the past 12 years) is that the fans expectations far exceed what is actually feasible. Spurs are not a Champions League team in the Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea & Arsenal mould (as fans of those clubs can reasonably expect to be in the top 4) but are in the bunch of teams below that group who should be expecting to finish top half but outside the top 4. I though Martin Jol was a terrific manager and successive sixth place finish was a magnificent effort, and that you'd be more successful if you stopped chopping and changing managers who haven't actually done that badly (we can also take a leaf from this book!).
This semi-final is a bit of a bonus for us. We do not expect to win over two legs (a one-off tie at Bramall Lane would have been interesting), I think the best we can hope for is a one-goal defeat just to keep the second leg alive. What will happen is a big following and a lot of noise. The fans are still Premier League class even if the team aren't! Nevertheless, we hope you win the final!


(Posted on S24SU forum so other posters can correct any inaccuracies as this is written straight from memory - which sometimes fails!)
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Think that's the sort of response the OP was after
 
Could ask BM's Len or Brian the Blade from Radio Pig to submit one
 

The greatest match ever against Spurs in my lifetime 1968 TC's debut and debut goal under the lights at BDTBL where we won 3-2 against the superstars of North London containing Jennings, Chivers, Mullery, Venables, Kinnear and Greavesy.
How the mighty have fallen......... us not not them :(:(:(:(:(:(
 
ghandi said:
The greatest match ever against Spurs in my lifetime 1968 TC's debut and debut goal under the lights at BDTBL where we won 3-2 against the superstars of North London containing Jennings, Chivers, Mullery, Venables, Kinnear and Greavesy.
How the mighty have fallen......... us not not them :(:(:(:(:(:(
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Love to know who got United's goals that day?

Sheffield United 3 Tottenham Hotspur 2 (Martin Chivers & Jimmy Greaves)

Goalkeeper Pat Jennings
Defender/Right back Joe Kinnear
Defender Cyril Knowles
Defender Phil Beal
Defender/Centre back Mike England
Midfielder Terry Venables
Midfielder Alan Mullery
Left half Dave Mackay
Forward Martin Chivers
Winger Cliff Jones
Inside forward Jimmy Greaves
 
Kyle Walker said:
Love to know who got United's goals that day?

Sheffield United 3 Tottenham Hotspur 2 (Martin Chivers & Jimmy Greaves)

Goalkeeper Pat Jennings
Defender/Right back Joe Kinnear
Defender Cyril Knowles
Defender Phil Beal
Defender/Centre back Mike England
Midfielder Terry Venables
Midfielder Alan Mullery
Left half Dave Mackay
Forward Martin Chivers
Winger Cliff Jones
Inside forward Jimmy Greaves
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Just found the Blades scorers:

Tony Currie made his debut for the Blades and Scored to put them 2-1 ahead at the break, after Barry Wagstaffe had equalised Jimmy Greaves' early opener for Tottenham.Gil Reece put the game beyond Spurs with a third in the second half, but a great effort by Chivers narrowed the margin, although Tottenham could not close it.

Teams :
Sheff. Utd. - Currie, Wagstaffe, Reece.
 
Kyle Walker said:
Love to know who got United's goals that day?

Sheffield United 3 Tottenham Hotspur 2 (Martin Chivers & Jimmy Greaves)

Goalkeeper Pat Jennings
Defender/Right back Joe Kinnear
Defender Cyril Knowles
Defender Phil Beal
Defender/Centre back Mike England
Midfielder Terry Venables
Midfielder Alan Mullery
Left half Dave Mackay
Forward Martin Chivers
Winger Cliff Jones
Inside forward Jimmy Greaves
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I was only a young boy at the time but as per my original post Tony Currie as an 18year old signing from Watford score on his debut but in trues Blade fashion we had 3 of our last 4 games at home and lost to 3 lesser London clubs at the time Fulham, West Twats and Chelski and were relegated by one point!
 
Kyle Walker said:
Just found the Blades scorers:

Tony Currie made his debut for the Blades and Scored to put them 2-1 ahead at the break, after Barry Wagstaffe had equalised Jimmy Greaves' early opener for Tottenham.Gil Reece put the game beyond Spurs with a third in the second half, but a great effort by Chivers narrowed the margin, although Tottenham could not close it.

Teams :
Sheff. Utd. - Currie, Wagstaffe, Reece.
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Blades team was
Alan Hodgkinson
Len Badger
Bernard Shaw
David Munks
Ken Mallender
Barry Wagstaff
Alan Woodward
Willie Carlin
Colin Addison
TC
Gil Reece
 
ghandi said:
I was only a young boy at the time but as per my original post Tony Currie as an 18year old signing from Watford score on his debut but in trues Blade fashion we had 3 of our last 4 games at home and lost to 3 lesser London clubs at the time Fulham, West Twats and Chelski and were relegated by one point!
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The win against Spurs was our last home win for nearly 6 months! Prior to the 3 home losses against the 3 London teams you mentioned we lost 2-1 to Sunderland, lost 1-0 to Everton and drew 1-1 against Liverpool. The next home win was the first game of the 1968-69 season beating Aston Villa by 3-1
 
Two proper teams with proper history.
Really looking forward to this even though my trains are naused up and I won't get home til 1.30am. Dont care.

Looking forward to hearing the 4000 Blades but hope they have nothing to sing about!

For those that have never been to our Lane I think you will like it. Great view for away fans. The old girl is a bit shabby around the edges but we love her.
It is in the heart of the community and not stuck in an industrial estate somewhere.

I wanna be in that number.....
 
I recall being amazed at the quality of Garth Crooks,75 76 I think. Seem to recall him running amok at the Lane.
I recall seeing a united end of season DVD ,of 1990 91, the 4 0 loss away was weird, as camera angle, position at Spurs, was very odd, often showing the game from a really odd angle.
I was livid in 94 when Kelly lay prostrate after an elbow from Dozzell, and Dozzell scored.
I have no dislike of Tottenham, but plenty for Mourinho, Chelski, West ham, and above all, Millwall.
 
Probably shouldn't admit it before Wednesday but I've always had a bitnof a soft spot for Tottenham. In the first instance because of Gazza (my favourite player growing up) and more recently because of others who've left to play for them, Nilsen, Brown, then obviously the two Kyles.

It's also a little bit funny to laugh at how much cash they piss up the wall ea h season on mediocre players:) I generally like to see them do well though.
 
Our season is an odd one. Very mediocre, generally dull, league form, though league one is so poor that we can go from Oct to Jan without a home win, and still keep in top six, only going 7th this Saturday.
Plymouth in fa cup aside, cup form really good, tempo is upped, the lazy and lax eg Rio Ferdinand, are made to look stupid, and we are flying. Actually I guess Tottingham 2 blades 0 is this weeks likely score. Cos all good stuff ends at some point. Please beat Gerrard or Mourinho in the final, K WALKER,to get the winner in last minute of a thriller, 4 3. Thanks.
 

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