Sometimes new signings take time to settle in

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Looking at the programme for our Championship return game against Brentford, I came across this photo. For the first couple of months we were far from sure our new signings were adequate. Lundstram was certainly disappointing, I was unconvinced that Baldock was an improvement on Freeman and Stevens seemed average. Now all three are key players for us. We need to give Robinson, Mcburnie, etc more time to settle.IMG_20191116_164758.jpg
 



Looking at the programme for our Championship return game against Brentford, I came across this photo. For the first couple of months we were far from sure our new signings were adequate. Lundstram was certainly disappointing, I was unconvinced that Baldock was an improvement on Freeman and Stevens seemed average. Now all three are key players for us. We need to give Robinson, Mcburnie, etc more time to settle.View attachment 64713
Stop it with all this common sense bollocks, it'll never catch on.
 
Can't agree more, seen many start like a house of fire and then decline and conversely some start of useless and become major players.
 
Looking at the programme for our Championship return game against Brentford, I came across this photo. For the first couple of months we were far from sure our new signings were adequate. Lundstram was certainly disappointing, I was unconvinced that Baldock was an improvement on Freeman and Stevens seemed average. Now all three are key players for us. We need to give Robinson, Mcburnie, etc more time to settle.View attachment 64713
Give him on the bottom right one more pre season and you just watch him go!
 
Every couple of months or so I’m reminded that Nathan Thomas exists.
 
True. But then:

Evans x2, Holmes, Leonard, Wilson, Woodburn etc. show the opposite.

And we can't afford to give too many games to players who can't score/create. They need to improve soon, there's no doubt about that. Wilder can be ruthless if they don't, wouldn't rule them out leaving in January.
 
True. But then:

Evans x2, Holmes, Leonard, Wilson, Woodburn etc. show the opposite.

And we can't afford to give too many games to players who can't score/create. They need to improve soon, there's no doubt about that. Wilder can be ruthless if they don't, wouldn't rule them out leaving in January.

Leonard didn't really get a chance tbf.
 
NO! I refuse to accept that McBraindead will ever amount to anything for United other than a complete waste of money and an embarrassment. Please bookmark this to give me a kicking when he scores his 4th against Barca in the CL next year. Otherwise leave me alone to have an opinion.
 
True. But then:

Evans x2, Holmes, Leonard, Wilson, Woodburn etc. show the opposite.

And we can't afford to give too many games to players who can't score/create. They need to improve soon, there's no doubt about that. Wilder can be ruthless if they don't, wouldn't rule them out leaving in January.

They won’t leave in January 2020, you don’t spend £20m on a striker then get rid without giving him a run of games.
 



Looking at the programme for our Championship return game against Brentford, I came across this photo. For the first couple of months we were far from sure our new signings were adequate. Lundstram was certainly disappointing, I was unconvinced that Baldock was an improvement on Freeman and Stevens seemed average. Now all three are key players for us. We need to give Robinson, Mcburnie, etc more time to settle.View attachment 64713

Yes you might be right mate, however, how long do you give players "to settle" before you have to make a decision on whether they are going to make a valuable contribution to the club?

I don't think there's any magic number of weeks or months to put on that. The reason being that footballers are all very different. Some start out fantastic then drop off. Others start out slow, then turn fantastic. Some plod along like steady-Eddies, some come good very late in their careers, some not at all, and very few are on top form year after year.

So, it's really difficult to come to the decision that someone is not going to make it. It may just be that this is the wrong time, wrong place, for them. You might sell them next week and they turn into a superstar for someone else! Then what? Was that a wrong decision to get rid of them? Or was it the right thing to do for the club at the time?

Do you think Wilder should have given Chris Hussey more time to settle then? Because there's a player who Wilder signed and he didn't look he was capable of delivering, so Wilder was quick to get rid.

It's not easy is it?

I tell you what I've learned from watching football down the years, but also from personal experience.

You can achieve a lot with patience, but without it you can achieve even more.

And what I mean by that is this...

Yes, McBurnie, Robinson and "etc" that you mention, might all "come good" one day. But we cannot build a successful football club on the strength that players, with promise, might "come good" one day. They have to show us something now to convince us that it's worth giving them time. And in the meantime, we have to recruit and play players who ARE doing it now.

And that's kind of what's happening. Despite Wilder spending big dosh on McBurnie, Robinson and Freeman, they aren't getting in the squad. And they are not getting in the squad because others are clearly ahead of them right now, for playing reasons. If they want to get into the team then they have to justify that and they need to do it quickly - because there is no "settling in" period allowed when you are in a dog-fight in the toughest football competition in the world. It's really a case of, deliver or be damned. And I think Wilder understands that very well indeed. So how long they will continue at the club will depend on his view as to whether they can contribute at least on a par with those who are currently occupying the shirt, or not.

And if they can't - then...goodbye and thanks for trying.

That's it really. It's the law of the jungle and I think it's fair personally, and necessary.
 
The same could be said for managers, if they can't get a team winning after six games get rid look at Watford etc ...............................oh hang on perhaps not.
 
The same could be said for managers, if they can't get a team winning after six games get rid look at Watford etc ...............................oh hang on perhaps not.

We should not have sacked David Weir then.
 
It's up to Wilder obviously, but for me sending out on loan January doesn't make sense.
We know he can score goals in the Championship, it's fitting into our style of play that he needs.
Why loan him out to bang in goals for (let's say Barnsley) playing a totally different system to us?
He needs moulding into our set-up training day in day out to get up to speed. If that means he doesn't start til next season, but is bang on the money and ready to go, I'll take that over loaning him out.
 
True. But then:

Evans x2, Holmes, Leonard, Wilson, Woodburn etc. show the opposite.

And we can't afford to give too many games to players who can't score/create. They need to improve soon, there's no doubt about that. Wilder can be ruthless if they don't, wouldn't rule them out leaving in January.
All of whom were quickly bombed out by Wilder when HE decided they weren’t good enough.
That’s when we write them off, when he does. Because he sees them in training every day, he knows what their characters are like, he knows if they’re doing what he’s asked them to do, he’s proven he knows how to run a football club.
 
All of whom were quickly bombed out by Wilder when HE decided they weren’t good enough.
That’s when we write them off, when he does. Because he sees them in training every day, he knows what their characters are like, he knows if they’re doing what he’s asked them to do, he’s proven he knows how to run a football club.

No-one (at least me) is doubting that.
 

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