Sheffield merger

[utd4ever]

Don’t you fucking dare COH……..

Whats Callum O’Hare gonna do.

 

[utd4ever]

Or even worse, forced to use the kop bogs

Do the merger…. Much better bogs.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Whats Callum O’Hare gonna do.

That would be CO’H. There is a clue in there……

 

[Keen Blade]

88 members have voted for the merger…

They should be lined up in front of the Kop bogs and shot.

88 members have voted for the merger…

They should be lined up in front of the Kop bogs and shot.

Shooting your own people for having ideas ?
Are you currently living in Argentina under a pseudonym ?
Or perhaps you're a descendent of Pol Pot or Mr Pinochet ?

 

[Keen Blade]

Or even worse, forced to use the kop bogs

Another nostalgic heart like mine.
They've never felt the same since the roof went on.
And as for those stainless steel troughs ?
You can't even piss on your own shoes , never mind your neighbour's

 

[Keen Blade]

Except a foreign multi billionaire.

Good point - the chances of getting one at the Sty or the Lane , as they are , would appear small

 

[georgebernardshaw]

Shooting your own people for having ideas ?
Are you currently living in Argentina under a pseudonym ?
Or perhaps you're a descendent of Pol Pot or Mr Pinochet ?

 

[Bladesman]

 

[Keen Blade]

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You think I was being serious ?
Dear God

 

[Sean Thornton]

 

[United1889]

We hear this news story every year so it’s hardly surprising, the only strange thing is it’s November not April 1st

 

[georgebernardshaw]

You think I was being serious ?
Dear God

 

[Rudders]

I am just looking how much state aid/council handouts single city clubs get:

• Wrexham £18M
• Plymouth £2M
• Bradford £800k

Not disclosed but I bet Leeds, Newcastle and Sunderland get hefty multi-million support from their local city councils, probably disguised and wrapped up in ground improvement deals.
Local councils basically guaranteed the Spurs and Everton new grounds.
Interesting that SAG and the pig ridden SCC must cost us several million each year whilst safety certificates get nodded through and vape and firework chucking nonsense gets blind eyed down at S6. SCC should be helping us with Dore but I bet they aren’t.
SUFC doing it the hard way!!

 

[wadblade]

RE =
the pig ridden SCC must cost us several million each year whilst safety certificates get nodded through and vape and firework chucking nonsense gets blind eyed down at S6. SCC should be helping us with Dore but I bet they aren’t.
SUFC doing it the hard way!!
Spot on

 

[Bladesman]

I am just looking how much state aid/council handouts single city clubs get:

• Wrexham £18M
• Plymouth £2M
• Bradford £800k

Not disclosed but I bet Leeds, Newcastle and Sunderland get hefty multi-million support from their local city councils, probably disguised and wrapped up in ground improvement deals.
Local councils basically guaranteed the Spurs and Everton new grounds.
Interesting that SAG and the pig ridden SCC must cost us several million each year whilst safety certificates get nodded through and vape and firework chucking nonsense gets blind eyed down at S6. SCC should be helping us with Dore but I bet they aren’t.
SUFC doing it the hard way!!

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Throw in the ongoing issues with the safety of their ground which which even fucking chatgpt thinks the SCC have shown "leniency" with. I have no doubts in my mind that if anything similar occurred at Bramall Lane the SCC would close stands until remedial work was done.

 

[Keen Blade]

We've proved beyond doubt that we don't have the wealthy owners or the critical mass to enjoy the PL.

So why all this recent clamouring - after 3 wins in a week - for a journey up the Championship into the play-offs and possibly into embarrassing PL pain & failure ?

Why can't we simply enjoy football at our natural level , ensuring that we avoid dropping to L1 ?

It's ironic that as soon as i suggested something which might allow upwards progress , like the merger of the two Sheffield clubs or , at the very least , a ground share to bring us into the 21st century , the overwhelming majority on here want to crush the idea.

You can't have it both ways.

You either want the national & global prestige of genuine PL membership for Sheffield football - and are prepared to make bold moves to achieve it.

Or you want to continue as per the last 50 or 70 years - as little old Sheffield United , up & down all over the place , but mainly Championship level.

If you can't abide the idea of getting anywhere near the pigs , not even sitting on a seat that last week was occupied by a sub-human ,
stop dreaming of a future in the PL ,
don't worry about anything other than avoiding relegation to L1
and enjoy seeing young players develop at the Lane ,
only to see them strut their stuff on the PL & international stage and wistfully think "he was ours once".

 

[madeinsheffield]

I’ve seen us in all 4 tiers, I’d watch us dip lower then support a merger. That would be me done

 

[CornwallBlade]

As if it'd be a merger anyway, it'd be a takeover

What of theirs would we actually keep?

Bannan, just for comedy value of making him wear the shirt as an 89 min sub. I doubt he’d be able to breath……

 

[CornwallBlade]

A fully merged club is an anathema to most fans on both sides.
But selling both antiquated grounds to produce a 21st century stadium for "ground-sharing" surely makes sense.
Immediately reducing the running costs of both clubs
But more importantly
The only avenue available to drag both out of the doldrums and put Sheffield on the football map again.
If it was good enough for Milan ...

But then again , you're battling with the backward "let's not try owt new" mentality , endemic in Sheffield.

Not just Sheffield, it hasn’t happened anywhere in England whereas, as you say, it is a well proven model in europe. Makes perfect sense financially. BDTBL is a special place but if/when we move to an out of town new stadium, I couldn’t give a toss if it was unique to us or a shared facility. I support the team not the (insert sponsor) Sheffield Stadium.

 

[Greasy Chap Butty]

We've proved beyond doubt that we don't have the wealthy owners or the critical mass to enjoy the PL.

So why all this recent clamouring - after 3 wins in a week - for a journey up the Championship into the play-offs and possibly into embarrassing PL pain & failure ?

Why can't we simply enjoy football at our natural level , ensuring that we avoid dropping to L1 ?

It's ironic that as soon as i suggested something which might allow upwards progress , like the merger of the two Sheffield clubs or , at the very least , a ground share to bring us into the 21st century , the overwhelming majority on here want to crush the idea.

You can't have it both ways.

You either want the national & global prestige of genuine PL membership for Sheffield football - and are prepared to make bold moves to achieve it.

Or you want to continue as per the last 50 or 70 years - as little old Sheffield United , up & down all over the place , but mainly Championship level.

If you can't abide the idea of getting anywhere near the pigs , not even sitting on a seat that last week was occupied by a sub-human ,
stop dreaming of a future in the PL ,
don't worry about anything other than avoiding relegation to L1
and enjoy seeing young players develop at the Lane ,
only to see them strut their stuff on the PL & international stage and wistfully think "he was ours once".

Fine if that's your opinion, but your second half is just unjustifiably slagging off people with other views.
Wanting support United doesn't equate to small minded look to the past mentality.
I could equally say go and watch Man City if you just want glory without any history, but I wouldn't as it is as daft as your slating of people who want to support the club they have always supported.

 

[Gimli]

We've proved beyond doubt that we don't have the wealthy owners or the critical mass to enjoy the PL.

So why all this recent clamouring - after 3 wins in a week - for a journey up the Championship into the play-offs and possibly into embarrassing PL pain & failure ?

Why can't we simply enjoy football at our natural level , ensuring that we avoid dropping to L1 ?

It's ironic that as soon as i suggested something which might allow upwards progress , like the merger of the two Sheffield clubs or , at the very least , a ground share to bring us into the 21st century , the overwhelming majority on here want to crush the idea.

You can't have it both ways.

You either want the national & global prestige of genuine PL membership for Sheffield football - and are prepared to make bold moves to achieve it.

Or you want to continue as per the last 50 or 70 years - as little old Sheffield United , up & down all over the place , but mainly Championship level.

If you can't abide the idea of getting anywhere near the pigs , not even sitting on a seat that last week was occupied by a sub-human ,
stop dreaming of a future in the PL ,
don't worry about anything other than avoiding relegation to L1
and enjoy seeing young players develop at the Lane ,
only to see them strut their stuff on the PL & international stage and wistfully think "he was ours once".

The idea that I can’t abide, is that Sheffield United would be no more. Done. Finished.

Whichever way you want to spin it, a merged club would be a new club. So I couldn’t care less how successful this new club became, it isn’t the team I support.

I’m quite happy actually to continue being ‘little old Sheffield United’ because at least that is who we are. If I’d wanted to support a successful side I’d have done what loads of people did in the 90s and supported Man U or Liverpool. Instead I supported a team that actually means something to me.

But I guess it’s worth consigning our team to the dustbin to gain ‘the national and global prestige of genuine PL membership’ - ooh how exciting…

 

[JOEYDEE]

If it ever happened, both sets of fans would just form phoenix clubs and support those, no one would watch a merged side, which would be seen as a Sheffield MK Dons

FC City of Sheffield ?

 

[CarlMcBlade]

Look, don’t take this the wrong way folks. But although I’m vehemently opposed to any merger of the clubs in Sheffield, I’m ever so slightly in favour of maybe sharing a purpose built 60k stadium. Looking at both grounds, the only possibility of any of them being redeveloped in my lifetime is if we pool our resources…If it’s good enough for Milan and Inter, surely it’s good enough for us.

 

[HighfieldBlade]

Look, don’t take this the wrong way folks. But although I’m vehemently opposed to any merger of the clubs in Sheffield, I’m ever so slightly in favour of maybe sharing a purpose built 60k stadium. Looking at both grounds, the only possibility of any of them being redeveloped in my lifetime is if we pool our resources…If it’s good enough for Milan and Inter, surely it’s good enough for us.

 

[Rochdaleblade]

Look, don’t take this the wrong way folks. But although I’m vehemently opposed to any merger of the clubs in Sheffield, I’m ever so slightly in favour of maybe sharing a purpose built 60k stadium. Looking at both grounds, the only possibility of any of them being redeveloped in my lifetime is if we pool our resources…If it’s good enough for Milan and Inter, surely it’s good enough for us.

This is nonsense. We have carried out lots of redevelopment. The only barrier is money. This would also be the case for any new ground.

 

[Selly]

Look, don’t take this the wrong way folks. But although I’m vehemently opposed to any merger of the clubs in Sheffield, I’m ever so slightly in favour of maybe sharing a purpose built 60k stadium. Looking at both grounds, the only possibility of any of them being redeveloped in my lifetime is if we pool our resources…If it’s good enough for Milan and Inter, surely it’s good enough for us.

As I have said elsewhere (possibly in this thread) - I am not interested in a brand new ground share right now given that we are in the ascendency. The Sty is a millstone around their neck, dragging them down. Whilst ever it remains like that we shouldn`t even think about helping dig them out of that particular issue.

It would be like moving into a brand new house with your worst enemy who is currently living in a mansion that is in completely disrepair/windows broken/leaky roof etc - whilst you are in a well maintained 3 bed detached house that you could do with an extra bedroom on. Why would you want to help them out?.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Look, don’t take this the wrong way folks. But although I’m vehemently opposed to any merger of the clubs in Sheffield, I’m ever so slightly in favour of maybe sharing a purpose built 60k stadium. Looking at both grounds, the only possibility of any of them being redeveloped in my lifetime is if we pool our resources…If it’s good enough for Milan and Inter, surely it’s good enough for us.

60k? Milan clubs who’ve had decades of success? Who are going for a 71k capacity for their new jointly owned stadium, less than the San Siro Meazza they are leaving?

 

[CarlMcBlade]

60k? Milan clubs who’ve had decades of success? Who are going for a 71k capacity for their new jointly owned stadium, less than the San Siro Meazza they are leaving?

40k 50k 60k? The point is…No serious ground development is gonna happen in Sheffield anytime soon…Let’s be honest, both grounds are antiquated by modern standards.

 

[Sean Thornton]

40k 50k 60k? The point is…No serious ground development is gonna happen in Sheffield anytime soon…Let’s be honest, both grounds are antiquated by modern standards.

I was really commenting on using Inter and AC as a reference point.

As things stand United don’t need a 40k capacity. Then there’s the obvious finance issues when clamouring for a new stadium. Plenty of us remember the issues that arose from building the South Stand.

Over at S6, well the Skys the limit. If they do get billionaire owners who do intend to spend, watch their delusion increase to well beyond 60k.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

60k? Milan clubs who’ve had decades of success? Who are going for a 71k capacity for their new jointly owned stadium, less than the San Siro Meazza they are leaving?

Don’t get fixated on the capacity. The point I was trying to make is If two giants of the game aren’t too proud to share a ground…Why can’t we?