Seth Bennett & Maguire

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He likes to make these statements to challenge the club to then deny it does Seth,

Personally i think there is a lot of truth in this one.
 
One thing stuck me about Harry was when Foxy said he was parked next to him in the car park last night. Why did Harry drive? Did all the players go seperately.

I think old Kev best get his old tin hat out because this could turn nasty
 
One thing stuck me about Harry was when Foxy said he was parked next to him in the car park last night. Why did Harry drive? Did all the players go seperately.

I think old Kev best get his old tin hat out because this could turn nasty

Not all of them, some of them did. Totally normal.

Neill Collins drove Cressy and Monty :)
 
Set Bennett and macguire is that next seasons cb pairing ?
 
Once again rumours start about our young players. While I would love Harry to stay how can we keep him here where we find ourselves when a higher division club comes in for them? As long as we dont get peanuts for him
 
errrrr reject the offer ?

Always makes me laugh, a players contract means nothing when someone makes a transfer bid yet when we need to move them on we have to honour that contract even if it means the club has to make half the staff redundant to pay it.
Another day in the crazy world of Sheffield United and it's fans
 
errrrr reject the offer ?

Always makes me laugh, a players contract means nothing when someone makes a transfer bid yet when we need to move them on we have to honour that contract even if it means the club has to make half the staff redundant to pay it.
Another day in the crazy world of Sheffield United and it's fans
I find it hard to believe anything makes you laugh
 
errrrr reject the offer ?

Always makes me laugh, a players contract means nothing when someone makes a transfer bid yet when we need to move them on we have to honour that contract even if it means the club has to make half the staff redundant to pay it.
Another day in the crazy world of Sheffield United and it's fans

What are you talking about? Are you suggesting we don't honour their contracts? That worked well for Rangers, didn't it?

Don' yout tink the club would love to terminate the big contracts we've still got?

A little secret for you. - you can't pay 'em with washers. Once again, enjoy your trip to the money tree.

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AAAAARRRRRGHH!!

errrrr reject the offer ?

Always makes me laugh, a players contract means nothing when someone makes a transfer bid yet when we need to move them on we have to honour that contract even if it means the club has to make half the staff redundant to pay it.
Another day in the crazy world of Sheffield United and it's fans

Do you understand life in general?

We're a league one club, we can't afford to reject bids !

When will people realise this. If we'd got over the line last season we would have been in a better position to reject these bids. But we didn't!
 

We're a league one club, we can't afford to reject bids !

When will people realise this. If we'd got over the line last season we would have been in a better position to reject these bids. But we didn't!

But when we were in a better position we still didn't reject bids did we? That's why we are where we are now.

We are in the cycle of selling the better players, replacing them with poorer ones, ending up with a poorer team, sliding down the leagues, selling the better pla . . . . . . . .
You have to put a stop to it somewhere, why not with Maguire?
 
Alco, is there any point at which you'd be unhappy with our sell sell sell policy? If the chairman (worth tens of millions of quid last time I checked, if not more) sold everyone on a wage and we started the Junior Blades under 10s against Burton would you still be defending it with reference to your bleeding money tree?

And I've said it before and I'll say it again, we have a money tree - his name is Kevin McCabe. The money is there. He just won't use it.
 
Personally I would like to see a law where any academy player coming through could not be sold until 3 or 4 years after his 1st team debut.

The problem for me has never been selling players for the big money, Naughton, Walker, Jags etc but replacing them with utter shite. Ryan France anyone?
 
I think what makes it all the more galling is that we did it all before, in spectacular style, in the 70's.

How can anyone who saw what happened to us then (commited to a shiny new stand, sold players to pay for it, worsened the team, got relegated, lost supporters, cut costs, worsened the team et., etc., . . . . Hello DIV 4!!!) look at what is happening now and not be worried.
It's not even like we're pinching somebody elese's blueprint, we wrote this one ourselves.

PS. Forgot to mention we had men of wealth keeping their own money safe at the time too (step forward Mr Wragg/Laver).
 
It's quite hilarious that people think we are a 'sell sell sell' club that accepts every offer put to them when last season, with finances similarly precarious, we kept hold of the vast majority of our best players. Of those that left (Hendo and Slew), not too many tears were shed. It was reported at the time that we turned down bids for Lowton and Quinn.

People have to accept that the state of the club is different today than it was 12 months ago. Perhaps if we had 'sold sold sold' 12 months ago, we'd be in a far better position to keep hold of players today. As it stands,the signs on the financial side are not good, and some players that were convinced to stick with us for one season of League 1 football may be less happy to double that commitment.
 
Whilst I'm glad the board pay no attentions to a full weight walloper on Twitter, they do have to make some sort of effort at communicating with fans. They know they're all a busted flush and not likely to be believed, but maybe if they came out, said something and actually made it happen a soupcon of crdibility might be re-established?

As it is, there's just a sense of them hiding under the covers and hoping it'll all go away. ATEOTD, someone is going to have to lead the club out of the absolute travesty it's been led into.
 
It's quite hilarious that people think we are a 'sell sell sell' club that accepts every offer put to them when last season, with finances similarly precarious, we kept hold of the vast majority of our best players. Of those that left (Hendo and Slew), not too many tears were shed. It was reported at the time that we turned down bids for Lowton and Quinn

This is true, which is why we had a good season.

Once again, however, the fire sale has begun after a near miss. Is it really necessary to blow up the side every time we lose a playoff final? Other teams do not do this.
 
Alco, is there any point at which you'd be unhappy with our sell sell sell policy? If the chairman (worth tens of millions of quid last time I checked, if not more) sold everyone on a wage and we started the Junior Blades under 10s against Burton would you still be defending it with reference to your bleeding money tree?

And I've said it before and I'll say it again, we have a money tree - his name is Kevin McCabe. The money is there. He just won't use it.

But what is his wealth, it it tied up in his companies, or is it cash. I think it is tied up in his companies, and in the present financial climate, he cannot turn that wealth into real cash, I don't think he is a money tree, in the terms you beleive he is. He has made some pretty shocking decisions in turns of SUFC, and we have had some real bad luck as well in his time, but we will never know if we would have been better of with him or with out him.
It is also easy for us to spend his money, if we had been in his position and it was our money, can we honestly say we would have not made mistakes, and then pour all our money into a bottomless pit.
As fans we are emotionally involved, and want him to pour more money into the club, but everyone has a limit, unless you are an oil rich owner. I don't know whether what he has done this week in isolating the football side from the plc is going to be a good or bad thing for us, only time will tell that.
 
Once again, however, the fire sale has begun after a near miss. Is it really necessary to blow up the side every time we lose a playoff final? Other teams do not do this.

Where does the money come from to fill the gap between income and expenditure?

The current actions are probably necessary. The root cause of our demise isn’t the recent sale of players, it's the profligate spending that made it necessary. We gambled on the wrong horses.

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Alco, is there any point at which you'd be unhappy with our sell sell sell policy? If the chairman (worth tens of millions of quid last time I checked, if not more) sold everyone on a wage and we started the Junior Blades under 10s against Burton would you still be defending it with reference to your bleeding money tree?

And I've said it before and I'll say it again, we have a money tree - his name is Kevin McCabe. The money is there. He just won't use it.

The point I objected is when most were ejaculating over the prospect of expanding the ground to 44,000 for the WC. It was clear to me then, at the crescendo of our spending, that we'd lost the plot.

Your assertion that McCabe has the money is just daft. He's clearly spent and lost lots. He's had enough. At what point does this stop?

I think he's been a disaster for us. We'd have been better off without, I'm no clapper, but I can accept that actions need to be taken to remedy previous piss poor decisions.


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This is true, which is why we had a good season.

Once again, however, the fire sale has begun after a near miss. Is it really necessary to blow up the side every time we lose a playoff final? Other teams do not do this.

Plenty of other teams won't have to because they haven't over-extended themselves and live more within their means I imagine (Blackpool for example likely won't have to sell anyone this summer). Other clubs have to cut their cloth accordingly when it all goes wrong. Take Preston just as one example. Last summer they sold Lonegan, Treacy, St Ledger and several other first team players. They did nothing last year, but are in a position to challenge this year likely due to the fact that they are under much less pressure this summer to rebuild. Palace, the recent season after they just missed out on promotion in the playoffs, had to start selling once the realities of their financial situation kicked in. Charlton, 2 years ago when reality of a prolonged League 1 stay hit home, had to sell around £4m plus in players.

This myth that somehow we are the only club in the history of the world to sell its players and face up to immediate financial realities is about as correct as the one where we're the only team that suffers bad luck.
 
Loughborough - it's up there with the myth that McCabe doesn't put his money in. I heard he was putting in £500k a month last season to "plug the gap". He'll be putting in £100,000s a month this year unall.

FFS we had Simonsen on about £15,000 a week last year in L1, Ched on slightly less basic but with a wopping goal bonus. No, that's right McCabe is a tightarse!!!

Chronically bad at recruitment of staff? Yes. Chronically unlucky/naive with the property market? Yes. Tightarse? No.
 
Loughborough - it's up there with the myth that McCabe doesn't put his money in. I heard he was putting in £500k a month last season to "plug the gap". He'll be putting in £100,000s a month this year unall.

McCabe has quite clearly put his money in. The problem with McCabe is that he's simply made some appalling decisions at key points in the last 6 years that have combined to place us in the precarious position we're currently facing. Easily fixed if someone wants to take all the large wage earners we don't want anymore. Much tougher when no teams come calling for them - which, given the opinions most on here have of their ability, isn't exactly surprising.
 

I can accept that actions need to be taken to remedy previous piss poor decisions.

With you 100% on this. We all want to put the best team possible out on that pitch but we've already seen the result of failing to make the spending count. It's more a case of starting again than giving up and unfortunately the painful healing process would logically begin with cutting costs and generating income from any saleable assets you are left with.

If we want a football club we must be self sustainable, if we want a successful football club we must have a new investor. It's hard enough to keep your best players when you're in the Championship but when you're in League One with little to no television revenue you have no chance of holding onto anyone.
 

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