Sell brooks in January

[Lmaobob]

We sold Walker and Naughton for 10 million, where did that take us? To the first division for six largely painful years.

People are deluded if they think the revenue from a Brooks sale would handed straight over to CW, that is not the way this club works.

As has been pointed out, we need to hold on to Brooks (who wants to play for us), nurture him and build around him. Just as we should have done with talent like Walker and Naughton.

Playing the short game for the last 40 years has got us no where. Time for change.

So you're saying that if wilder was manager in that season, and sold walker and naughton, we would have still been relegated? It's down to the manager not the players you sell.

We all thought selling our best prospect Che Adams was a bad decision or a player we should definitely keep but look how that worked out. Sold him got a chunk of cash and helped buy over 11 players

 

[ScottBlade]

Hopefully the club realise this now and won't look to cash in. He's special and 20 million wouldn't go anywhere near to replacing his talent and quality. God knows how many goals he's played a part in so far this season and the number of chances he's help create. Many of which coming from cameos off the bench. I'd love to know the number of points we've won already through his contributions. If anyone could work it out that'd be great. Irreplaceable if you ask me and he's only going to get better from this point on.

Also sick of hearing former Sheffield United player Kyle Walker, Harry Maguire etc. Wales and Sheffield United star David Brooks sounds so much better.

 

[Kev Gee]

Who would you spend the £20 million on?

20m is peanuts if Brooks helps us to promotion.

Infact 20million is peanuts in todays market.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

OK then. Answer me this.

Who could we sign, who we couldn't already, who wouldn't smash the wage structure and would make a bigger impact than Brooks?

'Leave that to Wilder' answers not accepted.

"'Leave that to Wilder"

Is the answer to any question asked these days.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

So you're saying that if wilder was manager in that season, and sold walker and naughton, we would have still been relegated? It's down to the manager not the players you sell.

We all thought selling our best prospect Che Adams was a bad decision or a player we should definitely keep but look how that worked out. Sold him got a chunk of cash and helped buy over 11 players

Che Adams is not and never will be a Walker or a Maguire.

A loss, never ever will he be a loss.

 

[super_pig]

Ooòh 2 games and we havent won

It's the End

Lock the gates .season over
No chance of doing anything from 3rd

this site is far more interesting though! the amount of bile and frankly bonkers suggestions never ceases to amaze

 

[blade too long]

P Team GP W D L F A GD Pts Form
1 Wolves 19 14 2 3 40 17 23 44
Won against Norwich Won against Fulham Won against Reading Won against Leeds Won against Bolton
2 Cardiff 18 11 4 3 25 13 12 37
Drew with Millwall Won against Ipswich Lost to Bristol City Won against Brentford Won against Barnsley
3 Sheff Utd 19 12 1 6 32 21 11 37
Lost to QPR Won against Hull Won against Burton A Lost to Fulham Drew with Birmingham
4 Aston Villa 19 10 5 4 28 17 11 35
Won against Preston North End Lost to Sheff Wed Won against QPR Won against Sunderland Won against Ipswich
5 Bristol City 19 9 7 3 30 20 10 34
Won against Fulham Won against Cardiff Drew with Sheff Wed Lost to Preston North End Won against Hull
6 Derby 18 9 5 4 29 20 9 32
Won against Leeds Lost to Reading Drew with Fulham Won against QPR Won against Middlesbrough


only wolves not lost in last 5 games
but us losing one then drawing one apparently puts us jut above the relegation zone
surely cardiff fans must have similar worries only being on the same points as us

I despair at how some peoples grey cells seem to go on holiday when we dont win
they want us to do what wolves have done , but without being an estabalished championship team and no where near as much money spent

 

[Ricky]

And again...

OK then. Answer me this.

Who could we sign, who we couldn't already, who wouldn't smash the wage structure and would make a bigger impact than Brooks?

'Leave that to Wilder' answers not accepted.

 

[nopigfansintown]

Totally agree. Some people need to look at the table!. So we've had 2 dodgy results against teams that on paper we should be beating. This is not the end of the world!!. We're joint 2nd with 37 points after 19 games. Who in all seriousness thought we'd be there?. We're 7 points clear of boro who are 7th. On to the next game now. Onwards and upwards. In wilder we trust. Utb

I'd have to disagree. On paper we should be soundly defeated in both games.

 

[UnitedBlade]

Some of you guys are fookin bonkers.

I can't be arsed looking into massive detail but in the last few weeks alone he's set up the equaliser last night and scored the winner V Leeds.

Why would you sell someone who offered that kind of return? Who could you buy to replicate that type of income?

I’ve put it on the other Brooks thread but he has 3 assists and the best assist rate in the club, better than Duffy’s albeit Duffy has 5.

He’s being used in bursts by Wilder at the moment but if people can’t recognise the impact and importance of his contributions I don’t know what they want.

 

[nopigfansintown]

You could have got Jota and Roberts with 20 million and paid their wages. The problem being you'd have to smash our wage ceiling, and other clubs would know we we're cash rich after selling Brooks, and no doubt up the prices. Not really that attractive now, is it? I'd rather look for the next Fleck or Stevens and keep Brooks. How much are they worth?
This might be the most pivotal test of our board in my lifetime. It's easy to be hyperbolic, but Wilder's long term future might depend on his backing in the January window.

 

[Fanny magnet]

There is no way on gods green earth anyone is going to pay 20 million for brooks

He can't even get into our first team
Other prospects like sessegnon and Bowen are playing week in week out and I doubt they would fetch that kind of money

We'd be looking at half that and knowing our negotiating methods probably a quarter

 

[Kevincarterversion2.0]

How about keeping Brooks and the board also giving Wilder the money to ensure the promotion push doesnt run out of steam?

Probably a radical concept with our board, but hey, just suggesting.

 

[Caveblade]

So you're saying that if wilder was manager in that season, and sold walker and naughton, we would have still been relegated? It's down to the manager not the players you sell.

We all thought selling our best prospect Che Adams was a bad decision or a player we should definitely keep but look how that worked out. Sold him got a chunk of cash and helped buy over 11 players

It is not down to the manager, nor is it down to the players you sell. It is a far more subtle combination of those and other factors.

There seems to be a far stronger consensus on here in favour of trying to retain our better players than flogging them. I to am sick and tired of hearing how our ex players are doing at other clubs.

As for Che, it's a difficult one. From my perspective his attitude ensured he was never our best prospect and unlike Brooks, he didn't want to play for United. DCL equally wanted away, I have seen nothing that makes me think it is a great loss.

We are both Blades, we have completely opposing opinions, let agree to disagree and enjoy what's happening at the Lane. What will be will be and my thoughts will have bugger all effect on it!

 

[Digger]

I was sat on the kop last night and was enjoying an uninterrupted view of a slow paced attack trying to break down a well organised 5 man defence.
When Brooks came on everyone started to stand up to see what he would do. I then had to do the same.
So yeah, sell him. Save my knees.

 

[PokerBlade]

I'd be gutted to lose Brooks because he's a genuinely exciting player. Reminds me a little of having Ndlovu. I know on average Ndlovu wasn't that good but it was always that feeling that he might do something special that made him a fun player to have. Brown in that one season was like that too. They're a rare breed, especially at the level we've been playing at in recent times, and every fan wants to have the kind of player that fills you with excitement whenever they get the ball.

But here's the thing, football clubs need money. We have two decent backers and while we're lucky in that regard neither of them is exactly an Abramovich set to buy us a trophy. And I don't ever want to see us doing a Wednesday and crying that the Co-Op bank actually expects its money back. Or do a Bolton and act outraged that years of overspending has somehow damaged your club. Or Coventry, or Blackpool, or Portsmouth, or any of the others that have gone tits up over recent years for various reasons. Fuck it, even us giving silly money to Robson or letting Clough sign twenty odd nobodies to keep us stuck for a year after he left.

People are right. If we sell Brooks for £15m, or even the unlikely £20m the papers are talking about, we won't find a replacement of the same value. If there were any of those out there they'd also be going for £20m. But it would probably mean being able to bring in two or three Wilder players that would benefit the overall squad (another Coutts, possibly fullback cover, a pacy striker) and keep the club financially secure and not dependent on an aging McCabe or a Saudi prince. It's the less exciting choice by far, and it isn't the one my heart wants to make, but it matters a lot to me.

Fact is, I don't know the ins and outs of the club's finances. I know that the interview with the prince recently said we ran at a loss in League One, and we'll probably be at a slight loss again if we bring any decent signings in in January. If we have to make a financial decision about Brooks it may be for the best.

All that aside, I think the bigger issue is likely to be if Brooks wants to go. Given what Wilder's said about other players (most recently about Adams) I think the likely response will be "There's the door" anyway.

 

[Lawrence]

So people would rather keep a player than cash in and get multiple players? You're all off your nut

Apparently we don’t need any extra money, the board with the prince will fund whatever CW needs! So we don’t need to sell anyone except the players who are not in his CW’s master plan!

 

[dc_blade]

Someone's going to have to explain how we could possibly improve the team by selling Brooks. What "multiple players" are we going to buy? Start naming names, please.

Start off by telling me who you'd sign as our new third choice striker.

Assombalonga cost 16 million and has scored less than Leon Clarke.
Jordan Rhodes cost 11 million and has scored less than Billy Sharp.
Both are certainly on double the wages of our current top earner.

 

[FinchleyBlade]

We would get max 10 mill for him, so what would be the point?

 

[Ricky]

Someone's going to have to explain how we could possibly improve the team by selling Brooks. What "multiple players" are we going to buy? Start naming names, please.

Start off by telling me who you'd sign as our new third choice striker.

Assombalonga cost 16 million and has scored less than Leon Clarke.
Jordan Rhodes cost 11 million and has scored less than Billy Sharp.
Both are certainly on double the wages of our current top earner.

It's no use. I've asked a few times now and nobody's tried to answer.

 

[Tommoblade66]

It's a case of

innt? Nobody is immune from wanting more of the folding stuff. We've all seen what happens to people when they get their head turned

 

[Lmaobob]

It's no use. I've asked a few times now and nobody's tried to answer.

ah yes, we are all football scouts who scout the world in search for players and give ricky and dc_blade from s24su the answers they require

 

[Sharrow Snuff Mill]

I don't care what anyone says. £20M in January get us all the money wilder needs to take us up. Say everything you want but the reality is that £20M is a great deal for championship player

Glad you`re not in charge of the club.

 

[Ricky]

ah yes, we are all football scouts who scout the world in search for players and give ricky and dc_blade from s24su the answers they require

No idea then. But we should sell him anyway, and hope for the best.


Come on, somebody at least have a go.

Let's say we do get £20m.
Let's also be generous and say Wilder gets £15m to reinvest (fees and wages).
Let's say our wage limit is 15k p/w and that we're unwilling to break that.
Consider that we have a very well performing team with good players who'll be hard to improve on.
Suggest players who would improve the starting 11.
Include someone who'd replace Brooks.
Omit any players we could probably sign already.
Consider that clubs are reluctant to sell important players mid season and subsequently prices often go up.


Looking at that I'm not surprised nobody's come up with anything!

Our best hope to really improve the team is loans and we don't need any player sales to enable those signings.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

Use him or lose him.

 

[Bladesthorpe]

What's tempting about being a fringe player on 10,000 when you could get at least 30,000 a week sat on the bench and most Saturdays off. What idiot would want to settle for that.

 

[Fanny magnet]

No idea then. But we should sell him anyway, and hope for the best.


Come on, somebody at least have a go.

Let's say we do get £20m.
Let's also be generous and say Wilder gets £15m to reinvest (fees and wages).
Let's say our wage limit is 15k p/w and that we're unwilling to break that.
Consider that we have a very well performing team with good players who'll be hard to improve on.
Suggest players who would improve the starting 11.
Include someone who'd replace Brooks.
Omit any players we could probably sign already.
Consider that clubs are reluctant to sell important players mid season and subsequently prices often go up.


Looking at that I'm not surprised nobody's come up with anything!

Our best hope to really improve the team is loans and we don't need any player sales to enable those signings.

Swift, woods and Jamie vardy

 

[itsinyerblood]

So people would rather keep a player than cash in and get multiple players? You're all off your nut

You're off your nut if you think Wilder would get all of £20 million? Do you really believe that all of of that figure would be handed over to Wilder?

One of Wilder's repeated comments about the way we play is risk and reward. All that would happen, assuming we received £20 mil, is that we'd send out a clear message that no matter how well we're doing we're a selling team. It's not that long since DB signed a new, 4-year, agreement. It shows that for the moment he wants to remain here. That's what this side needs, players who are committed to the cause. It's why CW sold DCL and CA were sold, because they had no interest in our future.

We've achieved wonderful things after 6 terrible seasons in Div 1. The reason for this is down to one man, so it seems that after actually losing we have heretical voices who seem to think that selling is the answer. Leave it to Wilder to take us forward, of course there'll be ups as well as downs, but if anyone's in doubt about that man's judgement then in my view they're deluded and possibly stupid.

 

[larkymasher]

That frankly is the worst post I've read in a long time. Brooks gives everyone a lift. The whole place is buzzing when Brooks is on the pitch and that element of unpredictability unsettles the opposition. I've seen shit players signed for £20 million. To be frank that's peanuts in today's transfer market. Factor in Brook's age and potential and I think he's worth £40 million. Thank God Wilder has a winner's mentality and not a losers one. Our best period this evening was from the 70th minute when Brooks came on. We don't need to panic spend £20 million on new players. We just need a couple of additions and hold onto Brooks. Seeing Brooks play alongside Fleck and Duffy and the others is why it's never been a better time to be a Blade. We need to be patient and trust Wilder and this team. And give the vocal backing we're capable of. That's all.

i agree totally on what Brookes gives the team and supporters but £40 million !

Are you sure Camden pal..... that's a lot of money for a kid that has played a handful of first team games. It is also a lot of money for a kid who is not a regular yet. How much is Sessignion worth from Fulham? A regular first team player with 40 or so first team games and who has scored quite a few goals and 2 years younger than Brookes.

 

[Jacopo]

I don't care what anyone says. £20M in January get us all the money wilder needs to take us up. Say everything you want but the reality is that £20M is a great deal for championship player

Great username. Quite apt given what you've posted.