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Jim Chimmerney said:
Which is a reasonable thing to do yet some people will still use it as another stick to beat them with.

It's a fair gamble in terms of revenue loss, if it means some of those who were thinking of not renewing do, and a few buy who weren't going to buy then it's not going to make a big difference in the grand scheme of things, probably McNulty's wages ;)
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and coupled with the number of expiring contracts this summer we have a huge opportunity to cut player numbers and realign our expenses to something more reasonable for a league one club by investing in quality not quantity.
 



LS26BLADE said:
These fans forums are a load of bollocks let's be right - you get politician answers from Mcabe etc and they achieve nothing.

One of my rewards for over performing at work last year was a 10 per cent bonus in my March salary - and on Monday I attended a Q&A with John Pryce the main man, where 30 or so of us pretty much sat in silence where he told us how 'great' we were.

Waste of time. Much like Mcabes forums

However if they said no forums as we are busy helping buy players for next year that would be a better outcome, the worrying thing about all this that has been overlooked is Adkins or whoever won't have a pot to piss in this summer with 10% less revenue - hence the numerous forums.
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I'm always surprised at the way questions are worded so that none specific answers can be given. If you want a definitive answer to something don't lead in with a rambling question, keep it to the point you want addressing.
 
zablade said:
I wonder where the cash shortfall is going to be made up? (Bye Brayford)

As for these fans forums a complete waste of time, usually a lecture from McCabe with a load of gullible fools giving McCabe a storm of applause every sentence whilst I was sat there with my arms folded thinking "this must be what it felt like to be a Liberal at a Nuremberg Rally"
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That's always a possibly but the cut
Just adds to the 5 million we lose every year
 
The manager must be crapping himself about the forums. The owners will presumably use the forums to explain this season's failure, reinforce their confidence in the manager and to outline his brief and presumably his financial 'support'. They will be shaken to the roots by the aggression of the fans and the manager will do well to come through it all.

If he doesn't come through it we will be appointing a new manager even later this summer.
 
Massive panic move, to stave off the recent 'I won't be renewing' declarations, based on this season's disaster.

By all means Bladesmen - see this as McCabe being magnanimous and 'listening to the fans'.

Don't be surprised if come the end of August we are left with the same set of useless chimps on lower contracts and no one coming through the 'IN' door. If you renew, you are just ticking McCabe's boxes and reaffriming his strategy. Cyncal doesn't even begin to describe it.

pommpey
 
PeteBlade said:
I think it's a very positive move by the club and an acknowledgement of how bad we've been this season.

It's certainly a move to be applauded.

My only slight/nagging concern is that:

A: This be used as an excuse not to spend anything next season

B: This is a pre-emptive move because they will be putting into practise the veiled threats made by Jim in January and they know how bad next season will be
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This .

The reduction is going to be welcomed, but I fear Its going to be used as the new patsy for selling and not investing next season and beyond.

What was really needed was a price freeze and a serious cash commitment direct from the owners.

That's not going to happen. It looks like we could be heading back to Trevor Birch era slash and burn territory again.
 
pommpey said:
Massive panic move, to stave off the recent 'I won't be renewing' declarations, based on this season's disaster.

By all means Bladesmen - see this as McCabe being magnanimous and 'listening to the fans'.

Don't be surprised if come the end of August we are left with the same set of useless chimps on lower contracts and no one coming through the 'IN' door. If you renew, you are just ticking McCabe's boxes and reaffriming his strategy. Cyncal doesn't even begin to describe it.

pommpey
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Or a good business decision and genuine apology to the fans.........
 
If McCabe had said he wasn't going to be here next year but we're putting the season tickets up 50% before I leave, only then would i have got one.

I personally couldn't give a fuck regarding the reduction or increase, it's what the clubs plans are that I want to know, on the football side of things mainly.

This is good news for those that follow the club through thick and thin and can get to every home game, I can't and won't whilst ever we see the same mistakes and it has fuck all to do with the ST price which i'd gladly pay when McCabe has gone and we see steps forward off the field as well as on it. They show ambition and they will reap the rewards.
 
Woodwardfan said:
The manager must be crapping himself about the forums. The owners will presumably use the forums to explain this season's failure, reinforce their confidence in the manager and to outline his brief and presumably his financial 'support'. They will be shaken to the roots by the aggression of the fans and the manager will do well to come through it all.

If he doesn't come through it we will be appointing a new manager even later this summer.
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Somebody has been talking to McCabe to see sense and see what 20,000 paying customers see every week .

We know Mr Adkins likes a challenge .

UTB
 
Surely if STs can be reduced by 10% doesn't it mean they were 10% too high this season?
St Kev throws a mackerel and the penquins can't stop clapping.
 
Deano said:
Maybe if we go down to L2 next season they will reduce them by another 10%?

We need an ambitious Board putting in serious investment. ST prices are not the problem.
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That's right, they aren't the problem, but why are you complaining about saving money? It's a classy gesture, nothing more, nothing less. We'll see what happens in the summer, if Adkins can't get the players in he needs, then we know who's to blame, don't we. If that (hypothetical) situation did occur, then I would officially be boarding the "McCabe out" bus.
 



Jim Chimmerney said:
Which is a reasonable thing to do yet some people will still use it as another stick to beat them with.

It's a fair gamble in terms of revenue loss, if it means some of those who were thinking of not renewing do, and a few buy who weren't going to buy then it's not going to make a big difference in the grand scheme of things, probably McNulty's wages ;)
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Agree with you that it's a reasonable thing to do JC.

I'm not using it to beat the management up or grumble for the sake of it. My anger is the paultry amount they think they can buy the fans off with. We will turn up next season regardless of the 10% but if they wanted to show support and/or appreciation to the fans it should have been a more substantial one not a few crumbs compared to the high earning boozing junky cultured players they signed and failed to control.

Ranted out ;)
 
west_yorks_blade said:
As mentioned on another thread, Huddersfield are offering the first 10,000 at £179 anywhere in the ground. Given that we are in a lower league, this should be matched at the very least. I'll still be paying more than double this after a 10% reduction.
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Problem is, as you go down the leagues teams rely more and more on the ticket sales as their main source of income. Like Deano said, I'd have preferred for them to say "prices are staying the same, but we are putting significant investment into squad building". Although, we've been fed that so many times nobody would have believed it!
 
S5Blade said:
People moaning at saving money. Laughable. Dread to have seen the outcry had prices remained the same / gone up.
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The argument is a tad more nuanced than that.

The context includes our poor performances this season, the lack of ambition, the lack of decent signings, what other clubs are doing (such as Huddersfield), United as a money making venture versus fan loyalty versus entertainment value.

As far as I can see they will have approached this with a purely commercial outlook. What can we get away with charging to create as much income as possible. It's their business but ou club. So whilst any reduction is to be welcomed, I'm not going to gush with joy. I could spend less than half on championship football, but they know damn well I won't.
 
S5Blade said:
People moaning at saving money. Laughable. Dread to have seen the outcry had prices remained the same / gone up.
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This is the thing S5, I have already put in my post that i personally would have payed the same if not more had McCabe either not been here next season or shown more ambition, there's a bit of a difference. It's good news for those hardy souls that go every week, I thought that needn't be said though to be honest, it was obvious.
 
Surprised how cheap the Under 18 tickets are, hadn't seen that before. They could easily get away with charging more without losing many at all. They could charge that for Under 16s and introduce another category for 16-18.
http://www.sufc.co.uk/news/article/sheffield-united-season-tickets-2361059.aspx

What's the 'early bird' discount? How much will it increase after 30th April? Or how much does it typically increase?
 
And what if they've said "look, we're gonna back the manager to get outta this league cuz we're fucking hemmoriging money but we'll reduce season tickets by 10% cuz 20k still turn up watching that shite this season and we need to give em something back"
 
This means the bastards have forced me to go again next season. Bastards.

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Bastard
 
Going to be very interesting to see how S/T sales hold up now. The price reduction's to be appreciated, but I'd think there are many out there waiting for signs of how the club proposes to dig itself out of this enormous Division Three hole.

A decent gesture (albeit an essential one in the circumstances), but where's the strategy? To be made up on the back of a fag packet between now & the dates for the fans' forums?
 



west_yorks_blade said:
The argument is a tad more nuanced than that.

The context includes our poor performances this season, the lack of ambition, the lack of decent signings, what other clubs are doing (such as Huddersfield), United as a money making venture versus fan loyalty versus entertainment value.

As far as I can see they will have approached this with a purely commercial outlook. What can we get away with charging to create as much income as possible. It's their business but ou club. So whilst any reduction is to be welcomed, I'm not going to gush with joy. I could spend less than half on championship football, but they know damn well I won't.
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It doesn't make money though.

Any reduction is welcome, obviously for those that will renew, return or buy for the first time. Problem is will 10% be enough to stop lots walking away? I don't think it will.
 
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